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This site has always been educational, depending upon the type of education you want. |
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Hmm...how could I have put it to sound like the type of "educational" that the "expert educators" (you know, the ones that make the major curriculum decisions without ever going near a classroom) would accept?...not that it really matters to me... |
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Hmm ... oh, you want politicians and textbook publishers to accept it.
First, you need to write a standardized, norm-referenced test for it -- one that is very high-stakes regarding promotion and funding.
Second, you need to write the textbook that needs to be read to pass the test.
Third, you need to write all of the ancillary materials that the teacher needs to teach the test, um, textbook, oops sorry, material, and the ancillary materials that the students need to understand the material in the textbook.
After that, you just need to convince the publishers that they will make a lot of money selling this book to schools and then they will convince the politicians that people need to know this so that the youth of today are prepared for a non-existent tomorrow (regardless, they will likely be unprepared for a whatever happens in the future).
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18-02-2012 20:19
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| quote: | Originally posted by amethyst
| quote: | Originally posted by ElectricWhite
| quote: | Originally posted by amethyst
This site has always been educational, depending upon the type of education you want. |
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Hmm...how could I have put it to sound like the type of "educational" that the "expert educators" (you know, the ones that make the major curriculum decisions without ever going near a classroom) would accept?...not that it really matters to me... |
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Hmm ... oh, you want politicians and textbook publishers to accept it.
First, you need to write a standardized, norm-referenced test for it -- one that is very high-stakes regarding promotion and funding.
Second, you need to write the textbook that needs to be read to pass the test.
Third, you need to write all of the ancillary materials that the teacher needs to teach the test, um, textbook, oops sorry, material, and the ancillary materials that the students need to understand the material in the textbook.
After that, you just need to convince the publishers that they will make a lot of money selling this book to schools and then they will convince the politicians that people need to know this so that the youth of today are prepared for a non-existent tomorrow (regardless, they will likely be unprepared for a whatever happens in the future). |
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Huh. And all this time I thought I just had to get enough California Boards of Education to think it was cool, and then sit back and wait for other BoE's to jump on the bandwagon! 
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18-02-2012 20:26
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amethyst
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| quote: | Originally posted by ElectricWhite
| quote: | Originally posted by amethyst
| quote: | Originally posted by ElectricWhite
| quote: | Originally posted by amethyst
This site has always been educational, depending upon the type of education you want. |
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Hmm...how could I have put it to sound like the type of "educational" that the "expert educators" (you know, the ones that make the major curriculum decisions without ever going near a classroom) would accept?...not that it really matters to me... |
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Hmm ... oh, you want politicians and textbook publishers to accept it.
First, you need to write a standardized, norm-referenced test for it -- one that is very high-stakes regarding promotion and funding.
Second, you need to write the textbook that needs to be read to pass the test.
Third, you need to write all of the ancillary materials that the teacher needs to teach the test, um, textbook, oops sorry, material, and the ancillary materials that the students need to understand the material in the textbook.
After that, you just need to convince the publishers that they will make a lot of money selling this book to schools and then they will convince the politicians that people need to know this so that the youth of today are prepared for a non-existent tomorrow (regardless, they will likely be unprepared for a whatever happens in the future). |
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Huh. And all this time I thought I just had to get enough California Boards of Education to think it was cool, and then sit back and wait for other BoE's to jump on the bandwagon! |
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Actually, from what I've heard, Texas has more power than California in that regard. But that was a few years ago and Bush was in office then. Maybe it would be Illinois now.
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18-02-2012 20:30
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| quote: | Originally posted by amethyst
| quote: | Originally posted by ElectricWhite
| quote: | Originally posted by amethyst
| quote: | Originally posted by ElectricWhite
| quote: | Originally posted by amethyst
This site has always been educational, depending upon the type of education you want. |
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Hmm...how could I have put it to sound like the type of "educational" that the "expert educators" (you know, the ones that make the major curriculum decisions without ever going near a classroom) would accept?...not that it really matters to me... |
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That would only apply if the school uses books. That's one of the problems we're been having with our son adjusting to high school. He wants a book to be able to read and refer to and some of his teachers don't believe in them. They'd rather use handouts.
Hmm ... oh, you want politicians and textbook publishers to accept it.
First, you need to write a standardized, norm-referenced test for it -- one that is very high-stakes regarding promotion and funding.
Second, you need to write the textbook that needs to be read to pass the test.
Third, you need to write all of the ancillary materials that the teacher needs to teach the test, um, textbook, oops sorry, material, and the ancillary materials that the students need to understand the material in the textbook.
After that, you just need to convince the publishers that they will make a lot of money selling this book to schools and then they will convince the politicians that people need to know this so that the youth of today are prepared for a non-existent tomorrow (regardless, they will likely be unprepared for a whatever happens in the future). |
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Huh. And all this time I thought I just had to get enough California Boards of Education to think it was cool, and then sit back and wait for other BoE's to jump on the bandwagon! |
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Actually, from what I've heard, Texas has more power than California in that regard. But that was a few years ago and Bush was in office then. Maybe it would be Illinois now. |
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18-02-2012 20:43
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ElectricWhite
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| quote: | Originally posted by amethyst
| quote: | Originally posted by ElectricWhite
| quote: | Originally posted by amethyst
| quote: | Originally posted by ElectricWhite
| quote: | Originally posted by amethyst
This site has always been educational, depending upon the type of education you want. |
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Hmm...how could I have put it to sound like the type of "educational" that the "expert educators" (you know, the ones that make the major curriculum decisions without ever going near a classroom) would accept?...not that it really matters to me... |
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Hmm ... oh, you want politicians and textbook publishers to accept it.
First, you need to write a standardized, norm-referenced test for it -- one that is very high-stakes regarding promotion and funding.
Second, you need to write the textbook that needs to be read to pass the test.
Third, you need to write all of the ancillary materials that the teacher needs to teach the test, um, textbook, oops sorry, material, and the ancillary materials that the students need to understand the material in the textbook.
After that, you just need to convince the publishers that they will make a lot of money selling this book to schools and then they will convince the politicians that people need to know this so that the youth of today are prepared for a non-existent tomorrow (regardless, they will likely be unprepared for a whatever happens in the future). |
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Huh. And all this time I thought I just had to get enough California Boards of Education to think it was cool, and then sit back and wait for other BoE's to jump on the bandwagon! |
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Actually, from what I've heard, Texas has more power than California in that regard. But that was a few years ago and Bush was in office then. Maybe it would be Illinois now. |
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Well, that's true for textbooks, anyway. When it comes to teaching methods, California still has some sway. (For a while, though, it seemed to be trendy to take the failed experiments and implement them without any change.)
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18-02-2012 20:47
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amethyst
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| quote: | Originally posted by ElectricWhite
| quote: | Originally posted by amethyst
| quote: | Originally posted by ElectricWhite
| quote: | Originally posted by amethyst
| quote: | Originally posted by ElectricWhite
| quote: | Originally posted by amethyst
This site has always been educational, depending upon the type of education you want. |
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Hmm...how could I have put it to sound like the type of "educational" that the "expert educators" (you know, the ones that make the major curriculum decisions without ever going near a classroom) would accept?...not that it really matters to me... |
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Hmm ... oh, you want politicians and textbook publishers to accept it.
First, you need to write a standardized, norm-referenced test for it -- one that is very high-stakes regarding promotion and funding.
Second, you need to write the textbook that needs to be read to pass the test.
Third, you need to write all of the ancillary materials that the teacher needs to teach the test, um, textbook, oops sorry, material, and the ancillary materials that the students need to understand the material in the textbook.
After that, you just need to convince the publishers that they will make a lot of money selling this book to schools and then they will convince the politicians that people need to know this so that the youth of today are prepared for a non-existent tomorrow (regardless, they will likely be unprepared for a whatever happens in the future). |
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Huh. And all this time I thought I just had to get enough California Boards of Education to think it was cool, and then sit back and wait for other BoE's to jump on the bandwagon! |
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Actually, from what I've heard, Texas has more power than California in that regard. But that was a few years ago and Bush was in office then. Maybe it would be Illinois now. |
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Well, that's true for textbooks, anyway. When it comes to teaching methods, California still has some sway. (For a while, though, it seemed to be trendy to take the failed experiments and implement them without any change.) |
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Or do what they did with Whole Language and just use what they understood, and ignored the rest.
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18-02-2012 20:51
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Hey, if anybody asks, I can now honestly say this site is educational as well as entertaining!
