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Last post by msannomalley 31 Oct 2020 06:37
Which one would you choose?
Ken/ Mark
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Springie
Her Royal Fluffiness...Swan of Swans...
posted 30 Jun 2008 07:04
(edited 30 Jun 2008 07:13)
Just curious about this...
I know how much we all love Ken/ Mark and Joe/ Jason...but many of us seem to lean more towards one or the other.
I wonder what the psychological diagnosis would be for this? Does it have something to do with our own personalities? Are some personalities drawn toward the "safe" guys, and others more drawn to "bad boys"?
I thought I'd add a poll to see, if you *had* to choose one or the other, which one would it be?
I'd also love to hear why...
As much as I love the Condor...the Eagle has my heart (as you all know)...*grin*
Not sure why...maybe it stems from when I was little, with BOTP...the whole Boy Scout thing...and who wouldn't melt for those blue eyes? Teehee...
My memories of BOTP are fuzzy, but I do remember that Jason was my favourite -the episodes that I remember best are all ones in which he figured prominently (Race with Disaster, Galaxy Girls etc.)
Why was he my favourite? I had a brother and sister (five and four years older, respectively) who both bossed me around (a situation I endured, believing it my fate), and I think that as a result, Mark reminded me of them, but Jason, who was not in charge (and was "hot headed"), was someone I identified with and/or admired.
A lot of this, I automatically carried over into Gatchaman, eighteen years later. Joe is both like me (I am by nature, a second-in-command) and I can also identify with his "loner" tendencies (I am an introvert), but then he also has some traits I wish I had more of in myself (Joe acts, he doesn't dither, contemplating options, or merely drift with the prevailing current).
(By the way, I like Ken much better than I liked BOTP's Mark!)
It's obvious who I would pick but I'd like to say why.
I first became acquainted with BOTP in the late '70's. I liked Jason because he was reckless; he took chances which is something I've never been good at. My parents brought me up to be safe (Don't touch that, don't do that) which I understand, parents want to protect their children, but they overdid it so that I am afraid to take a real chance at things.
I agree with lborgia that the loner quality appealed to me too. I was never a popular person at school and often made fun of. Jason acted the way I wish I could (To hell with them!--let's kick their butts! attitude) I wish I had.
When I started watching Gatchaman, Joe certainly reflected those qualities but Gatchaman offered a more deeper look at the Condor and his motivations than BOTP did. I can understand being fueled by anger--I have been most of my life. It's only recently I've been able to get it under control. Joe acts as he feels; it's not always right but he is true to himself and his friends. I care about the people in my life and would help anyway I could too.
I admire Ken's intelligence and courage--he is a great leader (although he seems to be dense about a certain Swan!) but I gotta love the bad boy. 
Springie
Her Royal Fluffiness...Swan of Swans...
posted 30 Jun 2008 08:35
(edited 30 Jun 2008 08:36)
This is very interesting! I see that it has a lot to do with our own personalities and experiences...and I predict that the Condor will win it! 
Are there any other Eagle girls like me? Let's hear it!
I was always a very safe, follow-the-rules type of kid...so i guess that's why I identified with Mark...
Are there any other Eagle girls like me? Let's hear it!
I was always a very safe, follow-the-rules type of kid...so i guess that's why I identified with Mark...
Joe! No question about that! Rule breakers boys always had my heart! He's the sexyest character I've seen in anime! He beats even the modern anime bad boys! And he looks lot better too! His character is so compact not even the Eagle Riders adaptation couldn't diminish it! Joe Asakura and Jo Thaxs are vrey much the same!
Which can not be said about the rest of the team!
I will refrain to make any comments about the weenie Eagle!
So, the Condor definitely beats the Eagle!!!!
Heck, I've might have doubts between picking Joe or Ego!
I confess I've never really thought of Jason/Joe as a "bad boy." When I was a kid, "bad boys" were the ones who quit school, smoked, loitered around parking lots, were usually on probation -and held zero appeal for me!
I always think of Joe as a soldier -he's signed on to what is, in many ways, a messy, dangerous (and badly paid) job and he knows it, and his brusque manner reflects it, but his devotion to the cause is absolute and without question, even if he sometimes disagrees with or ignores instructions from his superiors.
This was really tough for me.... I'm generally on the fence, and I go back and forth, but that's more of a Ken and Joe thing. I think with Mark and Jason, Jason has a slight edge, just because sometimes Mark could be so freaking annoying. It is sooo hot that Jason and Zark just don't get along, and a total turnoff when Mark is so complimentary of Zark!
Then there's the 'choose' aspect... I've always seen the Condor as more of a 'one-night-stand' thing while the Eagle is more of a 'permanent' thing. And since I'm married, I figured I should go for the one night stand. 
So after much hemming and hawing, I voted for Condor.
So after much hemming and hawing, I voted for Condor.
Taking a little time off from writing the comic book script I'm doing.
This is a very, very tough question. Being a kid during the time when BoTP was aired in the Philippines, I personally thought that Mark was really good-looking. Partly it's because he did not resemble any of the anime bishonen I've seen. I must admit that I'm particularly partial to voices. I grew up hearing Casey Kasem playing Shaggy on Scooby Doo, so it was a huge shocker for me when he did a serious turn as Mark. Of course, there's also the matter that it was also around that time that I first heard Casey doing American Top 40, so being the overly imaginative kid that I was, I tended to imagine that it was Mark doing American Top 40.
However, decades later, when Hero TV started airing Gatchaman, I not only fell in love with Ken, but with Joe as well. Admittedly, I did not like the way Jason was done in BoTP. But seeing the original series (with the Japanese translated faithfully into my native language), I've got a greater perspective on Joe as a human being. Of course, kudoes should go to his Filipino dubber, who is just fantastic. Then again, equally great is Ken's Filipino dubber.
Still, I would choose Ken over Joe. Let's just say that both possess certain aspects of my personality that I like and don't like. I'm kinda like an Eagle Scout like Ken, but I have a tendency to be ruthless and a bit vindictive like Joe (something that I should really do something about).
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Jun 2008 15:41
In reality I never really liked the bad boys, my younger sister dated them and I spent my time getting her out of trouble because of them.
But there are bad boys and there are just strong hot men like the Condor.
I'm still an Eagle girl though, His personality is more my type than the Condor.
And now the Eagle and Condor are tied!
I'm an Eagle girl, through and through. Though there is a lot about the Condor I like too, but the Eagle has always been tops for me. I guess I've always liked his logical and strategic thinking- and the way he can take control of a situation that is otherwise out-of-control and remain calm. Plus you can't deny those blue eyes, that shaggy mane hair, and a body to die for!!
Of course the Condor has his attributes too... Mysterious and reserved when it comes to his innermost thoughts and feelings, that "bad boy" attitude that captures every girl's heart. Not to mention that he's also got one hot bod!
But the Eagle still edges out in my heart. So, alas, poor Condor! I shall release you to the Swans and have the Eagle remain, to stay with this fair Eagle! 
Finally we see some Eagle girls! I was about to think I had him all to myself! 
My DH is logical like the Eagle... analyzes things the same way Ken does...So I guess its natural to go for a character thats like him...He has to be wound up to lose his temper, so does my DH, normally he can keep his cool in tight situation.(He was more like him when we were teenagers. Now we are older he's very social, likes to get around people.Though the Eagle does have a few more social skills than the loner Condor.)
I don't see Condor Joe as a bad boy. Rebel, focused, angry and he doesn't have much trust in people outside of the team. That changes a bit as it goes along in the series...
Then the Eagle does too...
You're right...neither of them are really bad boys...but they both can be bad sometimes...and that's the way we like them...LOL
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Jun 2008 19:33
That edge thats says... "I can be bad if I want too, but I chose to channel it into saving the world."
My Hero's... be still my beating heart.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 Jul 2008 15:50
I have always been an Eagle girl.
His leadership abilities and ability to get things done and his confidence are what I admired in him. He also appeared to be a logical thinker. All these things I did not see in myself and I wished I had so I could feel like I fit in more with my peers.
I was a loner and very much a follower. I like my comforts but wish I could be more outgoing like the Eagle is.
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 Jul 2008 16:26
CD we love you just as you are! 
And so does the Eagle...
And so does the Eagle...
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 Jul 2008 16:56
Originally posted by Ebonyswanne CD we love you just as you are!
Thank you Ebony
And back at you.
Now if only I could find an Eagle who loved me as I am, my Eagle, Condor, Owl fantasies and all.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 2 Jul 2008 17:11
Originally posted by clouddancerHino is an Eagle and she loves you!!!!!Originally posted by Ebonyswanne CD we love you just as you are!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 Jul 2008 17:28
Originally posted by Transmute JunMaybe I should restate that and say a male Eagle.Originally posted by clouddancerHino is an Eagle and she loves you!!!!!Originally posted by Ebonyswanne CD we love you just as you are!
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 Jul 2008 17:30
Dooes that mean Hino has a girl crush on CD???
Hugs Hino... 
Originally posted by Ebonyswanne Dooes that mean Hino has a girl crush on CD??? Hugs Hino...I am not sure if I should be flattered by that or take it as an insult.
I'm away from the board for two hours and this is what happens???? Yeesh, I'm about to star in my own yaoi with CD, and I don't even swing that way (not that there's anything wrong with it....)!! 
OK, I will make this very clear (TJ, are you paying close attention???). Although I am a female Eagle, I only have eyes for a certain MALE Eagle (or two - with a little MALE Condor on the side!). So, although I appreciate TJ's effort at trying to hook me up, unless said hookee has messy dark brown hair, blue eyes, and wears a cup, I will pass on the invite... (no offense, CD!)
You are a sneaky Swan, TJ... (I knew you would get me back.... You are a crafty Swan and always get your revenge!)
And CD, JFTR, if someone tried to hook me up with me, I would be insulted. You can do so much better!!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 Jul 2008 18:09
Cloud gives HIno an friendly Owl hug.
We are still friends though right. 
We are still friends though right.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 2 Jul 2008 18:12
All I was doing was commenting when CD said she wanted an Eagle who loved her!!!! 
Yes! Of course we're still friends, CD!! That doesn't change!
And thanks for the hug. Here's one right back atchya!
Now, Ms. Swan... Nice try at trying to get out of it... But you are the least innocent of all, so your explanation of an innocent objective won't get you anywhere! 
Now, Ms. Swan... Nice try at trying to get out of it... But you are the least innocent of all, so your explanation of an innocent objective won't get you anywhere!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 Jul 2008 18:30
Cloud sits back, snickers and watches as the Eagle and Swan go at it. 
Originally posted by Hinotori
So no yuri (the all-female equivalent of yaoi -and don't go reading anything into the fact that I know the term!)? Some male Gatchamaniacs might actually be disappointed.
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 Jul 2008 19:01
I knew that would kindle a flame...
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 3 Jul 2008 06:44
Originally posted by Hinotori your explanation of an innocent objective won't get you anywhere!But.... but.... I need to GO somewhere... to the ComiCon....
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 3 Jul 2008 06:45
I have heard of the 'yuri' term too. but only because it is actually a category on the Gatch Fanfic Archives. Don't think there are any fics there, though...
Originally posted by Transmute Jun I have heard of the 'yuri' term too. but only because it is actually a category on the Gatch Fanfic Archives. Don't think there are any fics there, though...IMHO, I hope no one starts any either....
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 3 Jul 2008 17:38
Originally posted by gatchgirlWell who would they hook Jun up with? Doctor Pandora? There are not many options unless it is Devil Stars. Or Katse in Female form.Originally posted by Transmute Jun I have heard of the 'yuri' term too. but only because it is actually a category on the Gatch Fanfic Archives. Don't think there are any fics there, though...IMHO, I hope no one starts any either....
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 3 Jul 2008 19:03
ROTFL!!!
CD, I love to say I'd wanna see that ficcie....
Thats a new style of hook ups....So does Rory do female hook ups too...
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 3 Jul 2008 19:10
Originally posted by Ebonyswanne ROTFL!!! CD, I love to say I'd wanna see that ficcie.... Thats a new style of hook ups....So does Rory do female hook ups too...No you don't! at least No I wouldn't want to see that. I can only think I one person I want to see the Swan with .... the Eagle.
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 3 Jul 2008 19:27
I forgot to put the BUT at the end...
No that would be ewwwwwwwweee
#Amy's ears prick up# Swan yuri fic? 
Where?
So, poor Jun, after being ignored for so long by the Eagle, decided to go for women?
Where?
So, poor Jun, after being ignored for so long by the Eagle, decided to go for women?
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 4 Jul 2008 15:17
Amy... She pretty enough to have any guy...
Originally posted by Ebonyswanne Amy... She pretty enough to have any guy...Yup, Ego's always open for her!
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 5 Jul 2008 00:52
She'd love to kick his butt across the room...
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 5 Jul 2008 06:50
Looks like the Condor is winning...
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 5 Jul 2008 07:08
Yes it does, but then look at the number of Condors on the Board as compared to Eagles.
Originally posted by Ebonyswanne She'd love to kick his butt across the room...Aww, just give the poor blue boy a chance!!!
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 5 Jul 2008 20:48
Well, the Condor is now way ahead...
All the better for me, the less women I have to share the Eagle with...so I say let em fight over Condor. I"m happy with my Eagle...
That's fine... You all can fight over the Condor. As for me, I agree with Ebony.... The more there are after the Condor, the more Eagle there is for us!
So, let's see... Joe's girls are...
TJ
lborgia
Amy
Condorfan
and I'm guessing...
Gatchgirl
Joeswench
TJ
lborgia
Amy
Condorfan
and I'm guessing...
Gatchgirl
Joeswench
And the Eagle's girls are...
Springie
Rory
Ebony
Hinotori
Clouddancer
Springie
Rory
Ebony
Hinotori
Clouddancer
No wonder Joe is ahead in the poll -he brings flowers! 
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 6 Jul 2008 13:23
I suspect Aya maybe one of the missing Condor votes but who the other Eagles are I have no idea
Whoops, double posts 
Why, we are getting flowers from Joe....oh, how sweet 
I wonder what will Ken offer to his supporting Swans!!! Other than a drink on his tab ....
I wonder what will Ken offer to his supporting Swans!!! Other than a drink on his tab ....
Springie, I love that pic of Joe with the flowers. Could I use that for an avatar? please, please, please?
Originally posted by Springie So, let's see... Joe's girls are...Ok Springie, one reason why I haven't posted any comments is I had to think of my absolute fav Condor... in civie looks it would have to be the OAV... I just love the long hair, and it's the one that totally beats out the Eagle... otherwise the Eagle would be right on his heels. As a kid, I was more of an Eagle girl... and Casey will always be my fav. Eagle voice. Over time and with more times of being a loner, I must say that my heart goes more towards the Condor... Still either could steal my heart in a second. Condorfan, I can see why you like that pic, it shows the softer side of Joe, and it really makes a person say that he's so smexy.... Springie, you also have a talent for creating those civie picks that show the softer side of him... thank you for those! TJ... I must say that your choice caught me off guard, still it's great to have you over here!
Originally posted by Condorfan Springie, I love that pic of Joe with the flowers. Could I use that for an avatar? please, please, please?Absolutely! What's mine is yours...
Originally posted by amyltrer Why, we are getting flowers from Joe....oh, how sweetWaitaminute! Ken can be romantic, too!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 7 Jul 2008 19:03
Yes he can be, and he is being very romantic here.
*Sigh*
Originally posted by Springie So, let's see... Joe's girls are...This is where Joe began to change a bit. He realized he had to try and relate to people better. Romantic??? the flowers were for an old lady!!!
I was completely in love with the Eagle as a pre-teen/teen. I was sort of a "loner" type too, so I really was fascinated by the opposite personality to mine. Mark (b/c I was a BotP kid) and his sense of honor, responsibility and nobleness was very attractive. But he also struggled so much and made sacrifices to "do the right thing." I fell in love with the idea of that struggle - classic hero trying to overcome tragic flaw of being human. Jason did not even register to me at the time.
In getting older, and then actually seeing Gatch instead of BotP, the choice gets much harder. Joe, despite his brahsness, is an emotional creature and therefore more accessible and therefore more appealing. Ken's remoteness makes him a challenge and I have not been able to decide yet if he can really overcome all of that repression, denial and subjugation to his rational side. The teenage me would have found the idea of saving Ken from himself and breaking him free of those bonds very exciting. My adult self has "been there/done that" and knows better now.
But I still went for the Eagle because in my deepest heart I am not ready to let all of my little girl dreams go.
Well said Gogirln and good look at the contrasts in them as people.
In some ways I feel for Ken, he's the leader. So being in that position he has to make the harder choices and bear the backlash if things go wrong. There is an old saying that 'Leadership is a lonely place to be at times.'
I don't see him as a weaker person than Joe, as he is often made out to be simply because he's not jump in and hit the red button without thinking. I see them as both strong men in contrasting ways.
Joe being second in command can afford to be a bit more brash. I still love him for it, it makes the contrast between them stand out more.
Yes, i must admit the Eagle still has me hooked, maybe because despite his control over his feelings, he really does have a good heart, and yearning to live a free life. I think he's got a deep side to him. He reads a lot, and he quotes from books some beautiful lines in some eps.
Ooooo...it's even now...interesting!
I love the comments this thread is generating...and all of the psychology behind it...I'd love to know if there is something common in the personalities of "Eagle girls" vs. a common thread with the "Condor girls"...background, maybe? I notice a lot of you seem to identify more with one or the other based on your own personalities... *rubs chin and puts on Dr. Nambu's armless glasses...how do those things stay on his face?*
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 8 Jul 2008 06:21
Originally posted by Ebonyswanne Romantic??? the flowers were for an old lady!!!I think Joe is into older women (Me! Me!). He gave the old lady a backrub in bed too.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 8 Jul 2008 06:22
But the reality is, I don't think there's anyone here who wouldn't want to take the Eagle or Condor into their arms and kiss away their troubles.
There, there, poor baby..... 
Originally posted by Transmute Jun But the reality is, I don't think there's anyone here who wouldn't want to take the Eagle or Condor into their arms and kiss away their troubles. There, there, poor baby.....You're absolutely right there, TJ! (Especially after reading some of your fics! and Springie's, and lborgia's and Ebonyswanne's, the list goes on and on)
P.S. Thanks Springie! Now if I can just figure out how to use that pic for an avatar...
Originally posted by Springie Ooooo...it's even now...interesting! I love the comments this thread is generating...and all of the psychology behind it...I'd love to know if there is something common in the personalities of "Eagle girls" vs. a common thread with the "Condor girls"...background, maybe? I notice a lot of you seem to identify more with one or the other based on your own personalities... *rubs chin and puts on Dr. Nambu's armless glasses...how do those things stay on his face?*Maybe we should all take a personality test? Meyers-Briggs Online
Originally posted by Springie So, let's see... Joe's girls are...And Meg!
Originally posted by gogirl212I took the test. It tells me I am an INTJ -introverted, intuitive, thinking, judging.Originally posted by Springie Ooooo...it's even now...interesting! I love the comments this thread is generating...and all of the psychology behind it...I'd love to know if there is something common in the personalities of "Eagle girls" vs. a common thread with the "Condor girls"...background, maybe? I notice a lot of you seem to identify more with one or the other based on your own personalities... *rubs chin and puts on Dr. Nambu's armless glasses...how do those things stay on his face?*Maybe we should all take a personality test? Meyers-Briggs Online
I am an INFP- Introverted, Intuitive, Feeling, Perceptive
I am an ENFP - Extrovert, Intuitive, Feeling, Perceiving.
On that site, after you read the basic description of your personality (I'm a Champion Idealist), you can also click and see what your recommend partner type is. Mine is a Guardian (now who does that remind you of . . .!)
OK here are my results;
ENFJ - Extraverted, Intuitive, Feeling, Judging.
I don't know about the judging part... Anyway, in other tests I have done the Extraverted is consistant.
From what I read of the type, I don't think my personality is that strong. Or else I wouldn't be here, I'd be running for Prime minister!
Hmm, I'm not seeing a pattern yet -other than that we are all intuitive (so far).
That's a good observation lb - and it makes sense as intuitives are the ones who read between the lines and are able to sense and extrapolate feelings and ideas beyond what is literally presented to them. I think that Swan's need that to understand their man (whichever one she chooses!)
I took the test and I'm ISFJ - Introverted, Sensing, Feeling, Judging
I'm the only one who "thinks" instead of "feels"! Am I really that cold? Can I blame my parents?
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Jul 2008 18:00
Well LB, when I took the test I was INTJ. So that says I think the only thing was I think it was saying I don't think because I was at 1% for T and J.
Originally posted by clouddancer I was at 1% for T and J.Feh! Close enough -another INTJ! My soul sister!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Jul 2008 18:08
Sorry that should have been ISTJ is that close enough??
I am the Guardian that Gogirl was looking for.
Well, if it was only 1 %, then close enough!
(BTW, I am a "mastermind")
No GoGirl/CD yuri fics though!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Jul 2008 18:14
Shudder, uhgggg!
Don't even think it LB!!!
I will add the Eagle and the Owl, hell, and the Condor too, to my thoughts -quickly, quickly!!!!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Jul 2008 18:25
Thank you LB
That helps.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 10 Jul 2008 18:33
You guys are making me think I should take this test... it always scares me to learn about my inner self though... IYKWIM.... 
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 10 Jul 2008 18:38
Well, I was another ISTJ, with 1% on T.
(I scored 78% on J... is this bad? 
)
)
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Jul 2008 18:41
Originally posted by Transmute Jun Well, I was another ISTJ, with 1% on T. (I scored 78% on J... is this bad?So TJ you and I are kindred spirits.
Okay, I see a pattern now -Canadians are the thinkers!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 10 Jul 2008 18:50
That must be it. Yeah... the Canadians are so cold they have lots of time to think. 
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Jul 2008 18:54
When you have snow half the year, you have nothing else to do. you can't spend ALL your time snuggling.
Am i the only extravert in this crowd???
I got 11% for the J...
Originally posted by Ebonyswanne Am i the only extravert in this crowd??? I got 11% for the J...I can't answer you right now, I'm too busy being introverted...
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Jul 2008 18:58
Originally posted by gogirl212 I am an ENFP - Extrovert, Intuitive, Feeling, Perceiving. On that site, after you read the basic description of your personality (I'm a Champion Idealist), you can also click and see what your recommend partner type is. Mine is a Guardian (now who does that remind you of . . .!)Gulp, does that mean I have to do the test again!!!
Originally posted by lborgia88Originally posted by Ebonyswanne Am i the only extravert in this crowd??? I got 11% for the J...I can't answer you right now, I'm too busy being introverted...
Originally posted by clouddancer Sorry that should have been ISTJ is that close enough?? I am the Guardian that Gogirl was looking for.
Originally posted by lborgia88 Well, if it was only 1 %, then close enough! (BTW, I am a "mastermind") No GoGirl/CD yuri fics though!
Originally posted by clouddancer Shudder, uhgggg! Don't even think it LB!!!I might almost be insulted by this -- if I wasn't in complete agreement!!!!!!
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jul 2008 14:35
my extraverted self agree's no Yuri...yuk...
LB it seems that the only difference between you and I is, you are more willing to act on your convictions where I continue to question mine. 
I wasn't surprised that I came out introverted instead of extroverted, or a thinker instead of a feeler (came in around 70% on both), but the "judging" (at 38%) did surprise me. I don't think of myself as being all that organized, decisive, or structured, GG, but then I think I have some uber-judgers in my family and I probably compare myself to them.
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jul 2008 15:56
I'm not a total extravert like some of my friends,( in my teens and early twenties I was more extravert.)
I think its because my DH is an introvert, I've been hanging around him for so long... and I seem to attract introvert friends...
When I took this test in college, I was and ENFP then too - but I scored nearly 100% on the Extroverted part. Now, I am just above 50% on all categories, including E. I guess over time, I have balanced out a little - and it makes sense because I certainly do like my private, quiet time as much as I do socializing with friends. I need a balance of both to stay sane.
I'd interpret my introversion as "I like people, but I don't need people." When I was a kid, my mother made the observation that I rarely went looking for my friends, and was often happily occupied doing something by myself, but if my friends showed up looking for me, I would happily go off and play with them.
My mother, however, is very social and outgoing. I told her once that I sometimes go see movies alone and she seemed to think this was deviant behaviour!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jul 2008 16:56
Originally posted by lborgia88 I'd interpret my introversion as "I like people, but I don't need people." When I was a kid, my mother made the observation that I rarely went looking for my friends, and was often happily occupied doing something by myself, but if my friends showed up looking for me, I would happily go off and play with them. My mother, however, is very social and outgoing. I told her once that I sometimes go see movies alone and she seemed to think this was deviant behaviour!That is one of the things I hate about being single, going out to watch movies on my own. Although I am beginning to feel more comfortable doing it. I have not, though, convinced myself I can go out to a restaurant and eat on my own. At least not anything more than a fast food place.
Originally posted by clouddancer That is one of the things I hate about being single, going out to watch movies on my own. Although I am beginning to feel more comfortable doing it. I have not, though, convinced myself I can go out to a restaurant and eat on my own. At least not anything more than a fast food place.What I do, when eating alone, is pick a restaurant that has a bar, as nearly every restaurant will let you eat at the bar if you want to, and I find I feel a lot less self conscious sitting there alone than at a table, and often you can talk to the bartender, or other solo people at the bar.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jul 2008 17:40
Originally posted by lborgia88Unfortunately for me I do not drink, so I do not go into bars.Originally posted by clouddancer That is one of the things I hate about being single, going out to watch movies on my own. Although I am beginning to feel more comfortable doing it. I have not, though, convinced myself I can go out to a restaurant and eat on my own. At least not anything more than a fast food place.What I do, when eating alone, is pick a restaurant that has a bar, as nearly every restaurant will let you eat at the bar if you want to, and I find I feel a lot less self conscious sitting there alone than at a table, and often you can talk to the bartender, or other solo people at the bar.
Originally posted by clouddancerI'm single too, but I have gotten very comfortable eating alone - I think because I travel for work a lot and it just started happening. I bring a book, or I write, or sometimes just people watch and make up stories about what is going on at other tables. Sometimes I can even eavesdrop (!). But I'm less comfortable going to a movie alone . . . too bad we can't make virtual movie dates!Originally posted by lborgia88Unfortunately for me I do not drink, so I do not go into bars.Originally posted by clouddancer That is one of the things I hate about being single, going out to watch movies on my own. Although I am beginning to feel more comfortable doing it. I have not, though, convinced myself I can go out to a restaurant and eat on my own. At least not anything more than a fast food place.What I do, when eating alone, is pick a restaurant that has a bar, as nearly every restaurant will let you eat at the bar if you want to, and I find I feel a lot less self conscious sitting there alone than at a table, and often you can talk to the bartender, or other solo people at the bar.
Hey! I just noticed . . . Jason/Joe snuck ahead in the poll. I suspect the new Condor. Am I right?
Originally posted by clouddancerMost restaurants I go to, the bar is in the same room as the tables/booths, and no rule says you can't order a diet coke (or pepsiOriginally posted by lborgia88Unfortunately for me I do not drink, so I do not go into bars.Originally posted by clouddancer That is one of the things I hate about being single, going out to watch movies on my own. Although I am beginning to feel more comfortable doing it. I have not, though, convinced myself I can go out to a restaurant and eat on my own. At least not anything more than a fast food place.What I do, when eating alone, is pick a restaurant that has a bar, as nearly every restaurant will let you eat at the bar if you want to, and I find I feel a lot less self conscious sitting there alone than at a table, and often you can talk to the bartender, or other solo people at the bar.
) or a coffee! 
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jul 2008 18:36
true, true
I'm with you,CD! I've gotten much better about going to movies by myself, but I just can't bring myself to go to a restaurant alone... Way too self-conscious about eating by myself.... At least in the theater, it's dark and no one can see that I'm alone!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jul 2008 18:45
Originally posted by Hinotori I'm with you,CD! I've gotten much better about going to movies by myself, but I just can't bring myself to go to a restaurant alone... Way too subconscious about eating by myself.... At least in the theater, it's dark and no one can see that I'm alone!At least not once the lights are down.
When I was younger, I used to like going to bars but not anymore. I'd rather meet people somewhere safe like a bookstore or coffee shop (or an anime/comic convention!)
You know, I've been taking a second look at the Eagle. He is very attractive--those big blue eyes are to die for.
Decisions, decisions.....
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 11 Jul 2008 19:01
I've brought my fic notebook with me before when I go places alone. No one will bother me if I'm obviously busy writing.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jul 2008 19:05
Originally posted by Condorfan When I was younger, I used to like going to bars but not anymore. I'd rather meet people somewhere safe like a bookstore or coffee shop (or an anime/comic convention!) You know, I've been taking a second look at the Eagle. He is very attractive--those big blue eyes are to die for. Decisions, decisions.....Cloud jumps, wondering if she can keep another person from contending for the Eagle.... no, you do not want the Eagle he is too bossy for you, giving orders all the time ...
The thing I dislike about going to the movies is... once you get up to go to the bathroom, you don't have the guarantee that it will be there when you return.
LB, I was much like you as a child. Sometimes I would even ask to be grounded so I could have my own fun in creating stories/barbies.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jul 2008 19:52
Originally posted by gatchgirl The thing I dislike about going to the movies is... once you get up to go to the bathroom, you don't have the guarantee that it will be there when you return. LB, I was much like you as a child. Sometimes I would even ask to be grounded so I could have my own fun in creating stories/barbies.*laugh* I am thinking you mean your seat wont be there when you return and not that the movie has moved. That is one reason I make sure I go to the bathroom before i enter the theater and with the price of drinks and food at the theaters these days I tend not to buy anything upon entering. That means I do not need to get up in the middle of the show either.
I'm ROTF at my miscommunication. I can just picture it now how it's written... Walks out of restroom only to find that the whole movie theater viewing area has disappeared. 
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jul 2008 20:08
I am glad you can laugh at this GG.
I know I was laughing as I tried to picture it ... 
My sense of humor has been at an all time high right now, not sure why though. CD it feels as if I'm chasing you around the site.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jul 2008 20:15
Nahhhh! I think it is more I am chasing you....
I'm catching up to you now!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jul 2008 20:19
I thought it was me catching up to you. 
I'm so dizzy!!! 
= best I could do on a short time frame
= best I could do on a short time frame
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jul 2008 20:25
<----- maybe this will do instead.
Originally posted by Condorfan When I was younger, I used to like going to bars but not anymore. I'd rather meet people somewhere safe like a bookstore or coffee shop (or an anime/comic convention!) You know, I've been taking a second look at the Eagle. He is very attractive--those big blue eyes are to die for. Decisions, decisions.....I like coffee shops, mostly for lunch, I have a fave that has an outdoor section next to a fountain. I have to admit unless its for a meal I don't go to pubs much. Where I live some pubs are set up Kid friendly... They have a main bar, then another room we generally call the 'Beer Garden.' This is where the Bistro's are. Open for kids, (baby high chairs and menus for kids) and it has its own bar off to the side that kids can go to, but of course they can't buy anything but soda. The one I like to go to "Ettamoga" even has Childrens play equipment. I know, Aussies are strange, but don't tell us you can't take the kids out for dinner.... In NZ i don't know a place you can't take the kids too.
Originally posted by gatchgirl I'm ROTF at my miscommunication. I can just picture it now how it's written... Walks out of restroom only to find that the whole movie theater viewing area has disappeared.Sounds like another evil Galactor plot to me!
Originally posted by clouddancerDepends on the kind of orders he's giving...Originally posted by Condorfan When I was younger, I used to like going to bars but not anymore. I'd rather meet people somewhere safe like a bookstore or coffee shop (or an anime/comic convention!) You know, I've been taking a second look at the Eagle. He is very attractive--those big blue eyes are to die for. Decisions, decisions.....Cloud jumps, wondering if she can keep another person from contending for the Eagle.... no, you do not want the Eagle he is too bossy for you, giving orders all the time ...
Originally posted by CondorfanOhhh Dear .... It does not look like that plan worked. Well it is a good thing I have my Owl to fall back upon, because I know there is no way I could win a battle for the Eagle. Especially against Swans and Condors *sigh*Originally posted by clouddancerDepends on the kind of orders he's giving...Originally posted by Condorfan When I was younger, I used to like going to bars but not anymore. I'd rather meet people somewhere safe like a bookstore or coffee shop (or an anime/comic convention!) You know, I've been taking a second look at the Eagle. He is very attractive--those big blue eyes are to die for. Decisions, decisions.....Cloud jumps, wondering if she can keep another person from contending for the Eagle.... no, you do not want the Eagle he is too bossy for you, giving orders all the time ...
Don't worry CD, the Condor will always have my heart. It's just the Eagle is very yummy too..!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 12 Jul 2008 16:38
Originally posted by Condorfan Don't worry CD, the Condor will always have my heart. It's just the Eagle is very yummy too..!Well that is good to hear, and I hope it goes both ways because I just saw a beautiful piccie of Joe and he was Yummmy!!!!!
Oh yes, Joe is yummy.I'd just like to eat him all up and... 
Oh wait... this was a smut-free thread, wasn't it?
Oh wait... this was a smut-free thread, wasn't it?
I've only been here a week and I don't think y'all have a "smut-free" thread anywhere. (not that I'm complaining)
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 12 Jul 2008 22:31
Originally posted by clouddancerThat one is a lot better choice CD. Thanky!!
Originally posted by HinotoriVery true Hino, still I don't see it as a fic coming from me.Originally posted by gatchgirl I'm ROTF at my miscommunication. I can just picture it now how it's written... Walks out of restroom only to find that the whole movie theater viewing area has disappeared.Sounds like another evil Galactor plot to me!
me getting rid of whips etc... 
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 13 Jul 2008 09:00
Originally posted by gogirl212 I've only been here a week and I don't think y'all have a "smut-free" thread anywhere. (not that I'm complaining)Oh, GoGirl, you are wrong. Check this out: The Official Smut Free Thread
Originally posted by Transmute JunYup, you sure proved me wrong on that one.Originally posted by gogirl212 I've only been here a week and I don't think y'all have a "smut-free" thread anywhere. (not that I'm complaining)Oh, GoGirl, you are wrong. Check this out: The Official Smut Free Thread
Originally posted by gogirl212 Yup, you sure proved me wrong on that one.Not that wrong! That smut-free thread didn't last very long! By the second post, TJ had it already smutised !
Chiming in late. . . It's gotta be Jason/Joe. Why? Not really sure what was going through my mind when I was 8, but it hasn't changed much. I think I just liked the character and the fact that he had a really cool car. Mark was always annoying, and overly preachy. Though, I must admit that Ken is far less annoying than Mark, but just no where near the same category as Joe or Jason.
I feel pretty much the same, Amethyst, although Ken has grown on me over time and he's a close second to Joe, for me now.
As an 8 year old, I think I identified with Jason because he often didn't get his way and had to do what Mark wanted -I was the youngest in my family and I sure could relate to that! Of course, the car is cool too.
I think as a 8yr old I just thought the Eagle was cool. The Condor was always angry about something or sarcastic. But then my fave really was the Swan. She was a hero!!! Most shows only had boys as heros. I wanted to be her!
I liked Joe more, he's cooler. And Ken too I must admit. watching it again I felt Mark was preachy. (And a bit more of a goody.) But I suppose they were trying to instill good values through his example into kids..
So as an adult it became harder to chose between them..Sigh.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 6 Aug 2009 04:46
I always preferred Ken from when I was young, though Joe is surely not far away from my choosing him (this reflects in dating ex-boyfriends who had the latter's type of character!). I was fortunate enough to only get acquainted a very little while with Mark in BOTP before I discovered Gatchaman. Ken was my hero! I too was raised the youngest of three, my two elder brothers outcasting me! But I was also the only little girl and my dad was very strict ... he was with my brothers and more with me! (he didn't want anything to happen to his little girl, even now!) I was imposed into being obedient and I liked the fact that Ken, through his obedience, was also the leader and in control of all the actions ... something that I longed for! He sometimes also disobeyed and was hardheaded which made it more interesting watching! I practiced this side of my character out of home where I, almost every time, had the opportunity of organizing things with my friends or being the captain of my volleyball team, etc. Ken does also have his good looks ... and those blue eyes and hair!
I love them both, but I still lean more towards Ken. I suppose it has something to do with my huge crush on Mark when I was a child. I just can't resist those blue eyes and the dark, messy hair (guess that's why I can identify with Jun so much)! 
It's funny that a year ago I was all about Mark, and then Ken once I learned about gatch - but now I can see the possibilities with Joe and realize that I have made room in my heart for both too.
But like Springie, I will always be a sucker for the blue eyes and mussed up hair. he will always be my number one boyfriend.
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 6 Aug 2009 15:19
I love the blue'd dark hair combination. I must because my DH has blue eyes and dark hair and thats what I noticed first about him...them the cute dimpled smile... tall with broad shoulders.... I was only 16...and you know when a girl meets her Eagle.... teen love.
I wonder if thats why I keep liking the Swan Eagle combination more. Even though I can understand why some love the Condor/Swan.
Have to agree with you girls I am a sucker for those blue eyes
I have had a crush on both myself. They both have their own appeals don't they. 
The Condor! That bad boy attitude he has makes me swoon. From a teen POV, if Ken and Joe would drop in a highschool, Joe would be the most wanted boyfriend, while Kenny would be the nerd.
And Joe's more manly!
Amy likes rugged handsome and aquiline nosed Condor better than puppy eyed Eagle!!
Ken just looked too much like Speed Racer and I never cared for that show or character. Joe was unique and not afraid to disagree with someone. In BotP Mark seldom disagreed with authority, while Jason challenged it. Now watching Gatchaman, I see the same things in those characters, but with more depth and growth (especially for Ken).
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 17 Aug 2009 18:26
First, I want to say I love Rory's picture of Mark.
When I first started watchingh BotP on 1978, I liked Mark and immediately began to write fanfics as Mark's younger sister. Of course, she was head over heels for Jason.
Jason seemed to me to be a loner, but I didn't think it was by choice. I was a loner and related to him the most.
When I finally got to watch Gatchaman, I didn't care for Joe as much as Jason. Joe was more harsh, angrier. I've stayed a Jason girl.
Hi Becky! Good to see another Condor here.
I'm impressed that you started writing fics when you were that young -do you still have any of them?
Jason was my favourite too, but I've come to like Joe better, in part because of the whole drama of his story arc in Gatchaman (remembering his parent's death, realizing they were in Galactor, developing his neurological problems, running off to Karakoram with 10 days to live...) which, aside from some of the health issues, Jason didn't get.
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 20 Aug 2009 15:19
Looking at the poll the two run in very close together, almost even!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 27 Sep 2009 13:45
I'm a little late getting into this. I'm still navitaging all the mesages.
I started out liking Mark because he was in command, telling other people what to do. I'm next to the youngest of five and was thoroughly sick of being low girl on the totum pole.
Then I started writing fics and originally threw myself in there as Mark's little sister - in these fics he never told her what to do. But, my character had a mind of her own and gravitated towards Jason, which drove my Mark character crazy.
From that time on, I've been Jason all the way.
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 27 Sep 2009 13:47
This is what I get for not looking at the last page - I totally forgot I'd already addressed it. 
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 27 Sep 2009 14:03
Originally posted by lborgia88 Hi Becky! Good to see another Condor here. I'm impressed that you started writing fics when you were that young -do you still have any of them? Jason was my favourite too, but I've come to like Joe better, in part because of the whole drama of his story arc in Gatchaman (remembering his parent's death, realizing they were in Galactor, developing his neurological problems, running off to Karakoram with 10 days to live...) which, aside from some of the health issues, Jason didn't get.Sadly, Ib, no. I was 14-15 when I wrote them and one of my older brothers got ahold of them and teased me relentlessly for being interested in a 'cartoon' character. I was so embarrassed I threw them all out. Guess that makes me a Mary Sue? Has anyone else out there thrown themselves into a fic as the love interest of our heroes?
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 27 Sep 2009 15:47
Originally posted by Becky Rock Has anyone else out there thrown themselves into a fic as the love interest of our heroes?Yes and no. When I was 8-12 and watching BOTP I had very detailed fantasies of Mark and Jason fighting over my 'company', but the winner never got any more than a kiss.
I did write *slightly* racier Mary Sue fics (and actually written down, unlike those earlier ones) when I was 16 about me and Duran Duran... but well, those are just embarrassing.
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 27 Sep 2009 16:11
I did write *slightly* racier Mary Sue fics (and actually written down, unlike those earlier ones) when I was 16 about me and Duran Duran... but well, those are just embarrassing. [/quote]
I didn't like to look at Duran Duran, but I've always liked their music.
I also have to say I like Jason's uniform colors better than Mark's. I always thought as Ninja's, they'd want to be in colors that aren't flashy.
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I didn't like to look at Duran Duran, but I've always liked their music.
I also have to say I like Jason's uniform colors better than Mark's. I always thought as Ninja's, they'd want to be in colors that aren't flashy.
I never wrote myself into a fic...but I've sure had my share of dreams and fantasies... 
As I've heard TJ say before, Princess was my Mary Sue when I was 8...I wanted to *be* her...and of course, I always wanted Mark to follow through on his flirtatious comments and kiss her!!!
As I've heard TJ say before, Princess was my Mary Sue when I was 8...I wanted to *be* her...and of course, I always wanted Mark to follow through on his flirtatious comments and kiss her!!!
Writing, no. But I did do a lot of pretend play; and some of it went against canon. I had a cousin a year younger than me who was into it and she created a character for herself that stole Mark away from Princess. So when we played I was Princess and got Jason (whom I like better than Mark).
Of course, it does make since in the matter of our personalities. As she was going gaga over Duran Duran I was driving everyone around me crazy with Def Leppard, Quiet Riot, and Van Halen.
Originally posted by Becky Rock Sadly, Ib, no. I was 14-15 when I wrote them and one of my older brothers got ahold of them and teased me relentlessly for being interested in a 'cartoon' character. I was so embarrassed I threw them all out. Guess that makes me a Mary Sue? Has anyone else out there thrown themselves into a fic as the love interest of our heroes?When Battle of the Planets aired, 1978-79, my older brother and sister gave me a lot of grief (and often changed the channel on me) because they didn't like the show -the idiots! I think that's one reason why, decades later, I was determined to acquire and watch every one of ADV's Gatch volumes -because this time, no one could stop me from doing it! Actually, the closest thing I have to a "ship" is Joe/Me, but I swear I'll never write that!
I daydream about it, though...
I had a few Mary Sue rolls in my early fics, but I was never as comfortable as writing my B/F in her own Mary Sue. She was much more outgoing then I with boys, so it fit a lot better. I was more of a supporting character, while her character had the two main men (brothers) battling over her. I had such fun writing that story with her, and yes I still have tons of it left. A good portion was spoken between the two of us.... except for the ending, which I was a naughty mean writer then... MUWAWAWAWAWA
In high school, I even went by dreamin space kitty, and I'd create fics that people could tell me their scenarios and I'd take the info and turn it into a fic... I was a total geek back then (heck I still am) but I did have fun.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 29 Sep 2009 01:09
I never have written fics regarding my favorite characters or Gatchaman when I was young ... in fact, I'm trying to write a Gatch one now but it's so hard to find time to do it! I also had a bossy brother who bullied me often and always stole books and other things from me, thus I was always cautious as to what I left around, especially written and personal material. I did a lot of pretend play though, especially at the end of series when a sequel was needed! I'm a bit embarrassed but, I don't know why, I always impersonated Ken (as my favorite character in Gatchaman and as I didn't watch BOTP) and ended up with a happy ending for his and Jun's relationship! (for anyone who is asking why I impersonated a male I can confirm that I'm 100% female and I love my femmininity, though being a male has surely many advantages!)
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 29 Sep 2009 04:22
Don't Worry Gatchamarie. I did/do the exact same thing, only for me it was Mark who I roll played and developed as a character. My Mary Sue is - I am the Swan and his relationship is with me.
And I too was cautions about leaving written material around although I had to learn my lesson while in High School, where my peers found a story I wrote and read it out to the rest of the class. From then on I never wrote again. (I should say from then until about 3 years ago when a few on this board poked me into beginning again.)
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 29 Sep 2009 05:19
Originally posted by clouddancer (I should say from then until about 3 years ago when a few on this board poked me into beginning again.)And aren't you glad we did?
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 29 Sep 2009 08:14
Originally posted by Transmute JunI am very happy to have gained another creative outlet. I still am not too sure about how happy I am to post stories for others to read. I may be writing but my stories are still not up for "all" to read.Originally posted by clouddancer (I should say from then until about 3 years ago when a few on this board poked me into beginning again.)And aren't you glad we did?
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 29 Sep 2009 09:22
Originally posted by clouddancerCD, please note that others are very happy to read your stories (me included), so thanks for sharing them with us and please continue to do so!Originally posted by Transmute JunI am very happy to have gained another creative outlet. I still am not too sure about how happy I am to post stories for others to read. I may be writing but my stories are still not up for "all" to read.Originally posted by clouddancer (I should say from then until about 3 years ago when a few on this board poked me into beginning again.)And aren't you glad we did?
CD, your stories are just as wonderful as anyone elses. I like to get glimpses of your inside world.
When I was in high school, shortly after BOTP went off the air, I sent Casey a couple of long distance dedications dedicated to him. I so loved hearing his voice, and thinking that G-Force was still around. Well after reading my freaky dedication, he sent me an autograph photo. Needless to say my older brothers and cousins razed me bad, but I didn't care one bit.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 29 Sep 2009 18:16
Thank you Gatchamarie and GG.
When I finish another story and am ready to post I will be sure to let you know. I am still touching up one story, I do not like one part of that I have written.
Looking forward to reading it CD and i know what you mean about having to change something you dont like I am stuck trying to sort that out too. BEst of luck!
I voted for Joe/Jason yesterday, but needed to take some time before addressing the why question.
When I was little Jason was my favourite because he had the cool race car. (Yep, it was all about the car!) My memory of characters from back then is pretty hazy because I was so young. I do remember thinking Mark was good loooking with those blue eyes and the dark hair (like me).
The characteristics of Joe and Ken are much stronger in my mind because I discovered them as an adult (in my 20s).
They are both attractive, smart, strong, heroic . . . so desirable!
I guess Ken's tendancy (and need) to follow the rules is too much like me. I never really saw Joe as a "bad boy", he's just more able to question and test the rules and boundaries. Joe might better be described as dangerous - which is attractive to someone like me who really isn't!
Joe's emotional story arc is probably what made me fall for him, feel for him and cry over him!
Nice! I can understand why Joe/Jason has so much appeal!
I was always 100% on Mark/Ken's team until I watched the entire series of Gatchaman as an adult. Joe's story arc is so intriguing, and his character is so complex! Although, Mark/ Ken still slightly edges Jason/Joe out for my affections...the Condor is not far behind!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 21 Oct 2016 13:18
Joe had more of a reason for fighting Galactor than the others, since they killed his parents - of course he didn't realize that was the source of his hatred for a long time.
Hola!
I voted already!
Well, the reason for choosing Joe is not because I'm attracted to bad boys, on the contrary.
At the beginning when I watched BOTP, I truly liked Mark. His character and voice in the Mexican Spanish wa Avery appealing. Maybe because I was just a little girl then.
Now that I watched Gatchaman, Joe became my favorite for a very simple reason....his true self. I truly believe that there is no greater love that form those who give their lives for the ones they love....and Joe did exactly that. He protected and even (almost) die for his team.
Like Springie said, he's just a complex and colorful misunderstanding character. Inside that rude and tough attitude, there is a very sensitive man.
For that reason and many others, now he's my favorite number one.....Ken, well, he's just his friend!
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Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 29 Oct 2020 20:57
It's even now. Anyone care to break the tie?
msannomalley
Forum God
posted 31 Oct 2020 06:37
Originally posted by Becky Rock It's even now. Anyone care to break the tie?I'll do it.
I voted for Joe.
My Condor appreciation goes back to childhood and Battle of the Planets. I was all about Jason. I could kind of relate to him, as he was always being told "no". Also, his car and his weapon were way cooler. I thought Mark was too preachy.
I find Joe fascinating and complex and a well-rounded character. Now I find Ken to be more well-rounded and fascinating in his own way than Mark could ever be, but my Condor appreciation is still so deeply rooted in my childhood, so my vote goes to the Condor.
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