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I tunned in to watch Battle of the Planets on Boomerang this morning......the show wasn't like I remembered Crying

I grew up with this show like most everyone else here on the forum...the show was kick ass...then. Watching it now, lacks something, perhaps the nativity of youth and dreams forgotten. But I'm sure most of it has to do with the fact I have been shown the light of truth, Gatchaman. Battle of the Planets, with all my childhood idols;Mark, Jason, Princess, Tiny and Keyop; just pales in comparision to Ken. Joe. Jun. Ryu and Jinepi.
I know, I know, I shouldn't compare them, while they are alike, they are too different, too much has changed. I guess it's like comparing ENIAC(the first computer) to the computers we have now. The basis is still there, but too much has been altered to compare them in the same class.

Anyway, I've become accustom to hearing Gatchaman in Japense (even though I can't understand very much other than "Bird Go!" ). It's just not the same.

This is not saying I don't like BotP, I think I will just go on remember BotP with the nativity of my youth, to do other wise would tarnish the sacred memories I have and the good times BotP gave me.

I'm going to go wallow in my own self-pity now and remember my more innocent days, before cynicalism moved in...ok so it's gonna be a short trip. Maybe I show just go and watch Gatchaman instead.

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Aww, thats sad. Like you I was glad to realise my childhood dream of watching BOTP many years ago....and then some real Gatchaman.

Some BOTP eps are pointless and choppy, but then the originals are often just as bad.

I like them in their different ways

Same goes for the OAVS. (have you seen them yet? On the DVD they have both the subbed and dubbed version...very enlightening.)

and the comics

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Ah, but when you can't get Gatch, BotP helps the craving. ^_^ Can't wait to get my copies. Hope she taped them... Frown Sorry it wasn't what you remembered it to be.

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Tampitt,

Im sorry it was not what you thought it would be. Its hard when you get disillusioned over a childhood idol.

BotP is still a fond memory for me although I have seen Eagle riders. G-Force guardians of space and some of the OAV's Still have gatchaman original to watch.

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I haven't seen any of them so perhaps I will never see it in the same light. Baby At least you can remember what it meant to you Smile

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Hmmm, I know what it meant to me as a child. Back then kiddie fare was endless variations on Scooby Doo, (mostly with that annoying git Scrappy), Captain Caveman, Lost Valley of the Dinosaurs (this is what BOTP replaced on Saturday mornings, (was it in Multicoloured Swap Shop?), the Hair Bear Bunch, Hong Kong Phooey and the like. Compared to that lot, BOTP was absolutely mindblowing at the time. Now we're a more sophisticated audience of adults, BOTP shows its age. Especially those first few episodes, which weren't exactly the best of the lot as Gatchaman either.

I hadn't seen BOTP for at least 13 years when G-Force appeared on the Sci-fi channel over here, and so I switched on and was rather unsure about what I was seeing. It looked like BOTP, but it was nothing like what I remembered. It took a long time for me to start to like G-Force - if it wasn't for my memories of BOTP I would never have tried. Likewise when I got hold of some BOTP episodes, it took a while for me to start to accept it again. The love I had for BOTP as a kid is quite different to how I feel about the series now. I'm not sure it's really possible for most people to watch the series and feel the same way about it as they did as children. It is still possible to love BOTP as an adult, and I still do love it, but in a very different way.

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Yep, different way is right.

For a while, esp with the politics in the fandom, I was desparing of ever enjoying it again. I don't like it when something I remember fondly is ruined.

Then I took some advice from a wise woman: go watch a few episodes.

When I'd finally gotten the entire set, I OD'd on the first five. Not good. And the first five ain't that good.

But, I took her advice, and added to it.

I thought of myself as a romantic 13 year old, just getting into a life-long love of fantasy and sci-fi. Reading StarWars and Derynii and Heinlein's junior stuff. Faith in good versus evil. Girl gets her hero. I even half-believed Zark.

And it all came back.

I'm working through the series a few at a time now, and try very hard to get that feeling in my writing. Sure, it's not the deep angsty or realistic stuff that's popular nowdays, but if I like it, that's all that counts. And, based on what others are saying, there are a lot of lurkers who want that feeling again, too.

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I think the main common feeling I've got watching BOTP again as an adult that matches what I saw in it as a child is the sense of fun. I feel an attachment to the characters, I don't like to see them mistreated, but I like the lighthearted side of things and that's what I try to write. Fanfics that bring back the excitement and dynamism of the episodes pull me in too.

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It `is` fun, but at the same time the danger is real, and sometimes you feel quite scared for the characters

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I know as a child I used to want to ride a bike like G3. I found it amazing that a girl could be that strong without some macho guy coming along to put her down in some way. As a child the world seemed so much bigger than it does now.

Just like how we see shows change as we grow so does how we see most things.

I sometimes miss the naivity and innocence of youth in a lot of ways I still have it.

I write for fun, to show how much something affects me and BotP had a major affect on me as a child. It helped me to dream and let my imagination run loose( mainly about ways to lose that annoying robot that kept interrupting!!).

Meridian, yes it was multi coloured swapshop follwed by Saturday Superstore if I remember right.

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I never had that innocence of youth nonsense. I lived almost exclusivley amoungst adults, and I couldnt wait to grow up so I would know as much as they did.

But your right, a life without anything other than the most vague of sexual urges (I wont say none, for I have always had them) is so delightfuly simple.

(Tengu thoughtfully rubs crotch against motorbike saddle.)

I like bikes too!

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I have not watched BOTP for years (literally since the early 80s) other than small video files found online a few days ago. "G Force" though made me want to change the channel after a few minutes. The renames of the characters like "Ace Goodheart" were bad enough. The only thing good I could say would be no 7 Zark 7.

Someday I hope to be able to see the original Gatchaman with good tranlations, even if I have to read subtitles. Actually subtitles do not bother me too much since I usually turn Spanish subtitles on when watching DVDs in hopes of relearning the Spanish I forgot in high school. Pleased

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ADV is releasing Gatchaman on DVD (starting later this year, I think) with a new translated soundtrack. They've got a trailer on their website.

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I for one still enjoy my B0TP, its not like i have any other options here in Australia.

Atleast when ADV make their release i should be able to order them and either trick my region 4 player or copy them to a region 4 format.

Having said that i guess its obvious that i want to see the original Gatchaman, the first BotP set i got had the first episode of Gatchaman and G-Force for comparison.

Couldn't get into G-Force tho, between the names and disco/porn soundtrack.lol

Might have to see if set 4 is out now, hell the last volume could even be out now, or it will be soon.........then i'll have the whole series, yayyyyyyyyyy.Only "catch" is that they are in the original intended running order, not the order they were shown in.I have no idea why there was a difference but there is.

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Combination of reasons:

Sandy Frank didn't expect to convert all 105 episodes, and at the time they didn't intend an overall story, just a series of (mostly) stand-alone episodes. Remember, this was back in the 1970's, before the multi-season storyline trend.

Apparently, the "Production order", the one that they were originally sent to the stations in, has more Zark/Rover/Susan continuity.

Also, Tatsunoko sent them over a few at a time, and not in order.

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