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Posted by amethyst on 15-10-2011 at 22:32:
Ah, thanks. It's been years since I've been down that way.
The mothball fleet that I was thinking of, is old naval vessels in the Carquinez Straight just east of the Benica-Martinez Bridge.
Or more generally, about an hour east of Oakland/San Francisco.
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 15-10-2011 at 23:31:
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I don't know about G-Force (I think they were humanoid opponents) but ER was the one where the Vorak were supposed to have an android army.
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Posted by lborgia88 on 16-10-2011 at 16:13:
In the case of BOTP, besides all the UN fighter pilots, I can think of some characters that were flesh-and-blood in Gatchaman but robots in BOTP (the captain-of-the-week in "Race with Disaster" comes to mind). I'm wondering now what it might have been like if BOTP, like ER, had presented all the green-clad goons as robots...
Posted by Becky Rock on 16-10-2011 at 18:57:
Since they never showed anyone dieing in BotP, except the doctor friend of Mark's who fell into the earthquake chasm, they might as well have been robots.
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 16-10-2011 at 19:09:
Yes, it would have been a simple solution...but I'm guessing the 70s sensors wouldn't even go for that?
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Posted by lborgia88 on 16-10-2011 at 22:32:
I'm guessing they probably wouldn't have gone for it
Funny, but I can remember way back, when I first saw Star Wars, being confused as to whether the Storm Troopers were robots or real people. With them all being faceless and identical, and without much personality at all, it was easy to feel pretty indifferent about them all getting shot or blown up by the heroes. If I'd been able to see expressions of fear or pain on their faces, as a little kid, I'd possibly have found it upsetting.
In the scene in "Rage of the Robotoids," where they're all fighting the female mannequin "robotoids" at the end, a lot of that fight scene got cut from the Gatch version even though it's clear the opponents aren't human -but I think some of that might have been because someone thought that mannequins who've made their legs into sharp skewers and who are about to drop from the ceiling and impale G-Force was too disturbing, although some bits where it was just the mannequins getting clobbered were cut too.
If the Spectran goons looked like real humans, albeit wearing masks, and appeared to be reacting with fear or pain in fights, then it might have been considered unsuitable for children to see, even if Zark kept reminding everyone they were all robots, just "programmed" to mimic people.
But the fact that the Spectran goons so often had names, and indications of personality, really added to the show. If they'd been nameless, and all speaking in identical, monotone voices, I think it would have made the show duller.
So, even though Jason got deprived of most of his best fight moves and scenes, I guess it's a good thing that the BOTP people didn't take the ER route of making them all robots.
Posted by Transmute Jun on 17-10-2011 at 03:11:
You forget... in BOTP they could have been nameless goons speaking in monotone voices... had Sandy Frank et al wanted that. I agree, it would have made the show duller... or potentially more terrifying (like the Terminator's monotone, or even the monotone of the Portal robots).
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 24-10-2011 at 16:40:
Today: did you know that the G-Force Team went through a 'power up' ritual?
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Posted by Dragonsbain on 24-10-2011 at 17:53:
Interesting. 
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Posted by amethyst on 24-10-2011 at 18:16:
More evidence that the creators of this comic were clueless about the universe they were working in. That or they were trying to be the original Crack Fic.
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 24-10-2011 at 19:17:
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Or they were really into new age meditation...
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Posted by amethyst on 24-10-2011 at 19:34:
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They must have been from the Bay Area! New Age Hippie Artists on Crack.
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Posted by clouddancer on 24-10-2011 at 21:48:
But they did get the 24 hour idea right. If I remember one of the first comments from Zark being they will remain in Firebird mode for 24 hours - or maybe that was, recovering from Firebird mode takes 24 hours. I will have to rewatch the episode - I think it was the first one.
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Posted by Becky Rock on 25-10-2011 at 01:18:
So the writers had the team actually linked to the Phoenix. Interesting.
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Posted by Springie on 25-10-2011 at 01:37:
Hmmm...interesting concept...
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 25-10-2011 at 12:50:
I'm wondering where they got it from... did they make it up, or did they 'borrow' it from elsewhere?
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Posted by gatchamarie on 26-10-2011 at 09:56:
Always finding something new in these comics!
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Posted by lborgia88 on 26-10-2011 at 21:32:
Oh boy, now they're really making stuff up here!
I recogize the planets Mark's naming -is this the beginning of the episode where they each encounter the evil robot doubles of themselves?
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It kind of reminds me of the way they do the tornado fighter in Gatch II, in episode 3...
Posted by Transmute Jun on 27-10-2011 at 02:31:
Interesting shot! I didn't realize Jinpei had white wings!!!!
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Posted by Becky Rock on 28-10-2011 at 01:14:
So the occassional color screw ups we used to see in Gatch I were in Gatch II too.
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