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Posted by lborgia88 on 14-07-2010 at 06:55:
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It does make a nice shot of the two of them!
Posted by condorcandi on 14-07-2010 at 07:37:
Watching the GoS ep, my first thought after the Knight mecha destroyed the fake Phoenix was, "And they're going to hold still for that?"
I think Agent V has the designation "Agent 5" (must check) but I do remember he has the name Joe!
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Posted by Springie on 14-07-2010 at 10:58:
Oh thank you, thank you, thank you, LB! They look so cute all in the same shot together!!! 
It looks like Ken is watching Jun instead of the road... 
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Posted by gatchamarie on 14-07-2010 at 11:45:
That's an awesome shot, LB, and as they should be ... always together!! Thanks so much!
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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 14-07-2010 at 21:49:
Of course, in the BotP version, Zark would be carrying on and yelping just like he did in the Decoys of Doom episode, until the revelation that it was a fake Phoenix that was destroyed.
And I'm sure the memos would have been a foot deep as Standards and Practices made too much of G4 running from what might be fake cops. (The episode implies that those might be the Blackbirds masquerading as motorcycle officers.) Until someone said, "Guys, we can write it so the kids know these are the Blackbirds."
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Posted by lborgia88 on 15-07-2010 at 00:12:
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I noticed that too!
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Yes, I don't think there was any chance that Ken was going to ride with Joe and make Jun take Dave with her!
Though, I think this is the first episode where we actually see someone with Joe in his car, while it's transformed (the devil star he rescued at the track in ep. 31 was in his car in its civvy state.) Nice to see confirmation that it can hold two!
I don't think there's any episode where Ken has someone in his plane with him (civvy or transformed), is there?
Posted by condorcandi on 15-07-2010 at 04:41:
There's no ep in GoS where the G-1 is shown with two passengers.
In the Van Allen belt eps, Ace takes his little friend Sandy (Sabu in Gatch) and his plane to the 'land of the trap' he's being lured into. The implication is the civvie G-1 can, somehow, hold two.
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Posted by gatchamarie on 15-07-2010 at 07:32:
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I don't recall that, either! In ep. 46 "Gatchaman in the Valley of Death", Ken specified that his plane was a one-seater. I don't know if that was just an excuse for not giving in to the hijacker, or if it were the truth ... even if his Cessna could have also been able to accomodate two passengers when compared to real models. In that episode, Ken had to use another plane.
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Posted by lborgia88 on 15-07-2010 at 15:37:
Poor Dave looked pretty cramped in Joe's car, as if it can hold two but isn't really designed for two. Maybe there is room behind the seat in Ken's plane to shove someone in, as long as they're prepared to be less than comfortable. I've been in some small planes where someone could fit in the storage area behind the seats, if they really had to (though it's probably a violation of some sort of FAA rule regarding passenger safety).
Now that I think about it, Joe took Maya to the hospital in episode 70, though there's no way to know if he transformed his car and himself before he did that, or just before arriving at the hospital. A security breach either way, I suppose, unless she was stone unconscious the entire time.
Posted by Transmute Jun on 18-07-2010 at 23:36:
I'm glad you guys enjoyed the episode! It's one of my favorites too! And LB, your stitch is fantastic! I love that snuggly pic!
I am 
over the Jigokiller wine!
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Posted by tatsunokofan on 19-07-2010 at 01:51:
Hi all!
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There's no reason to assume that he and his car didn't remain in Bird Style until she was dropped off, keeping his identity safe.
Now, him showing up at the hospital in civilian clothes later -- that probably would have been a security breach.
Posted by Transmute Jun on 19-07-2010 at 03:19:
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Unless he dropped her off in Birdstyle and then was pretending to be a totally different person in civvies. Of course, if his intent was to visit her (and it seems it was) he might have had a good story prepared. We'll never know...
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Posted by lborgia88 on 19-07-2010 at 04:16:
I was thinking of the Doctor's line to Ken and the others, while in the room with the dead nurse. He says (referring to Maya) "Oh yeah, actually, a boy about your age… Yes, he brought her here just last night. His eyes had a bit of a hard look to them.â€
I took this to mean that if the Doctor called Joe a "boy" and had gotten a good look at his eyes, then Joe had possibly come walking into the hospital, detransformed, carrying Maya -and I agree that's not a security breach as long as she was unconscious at the time and didn't witness his detransformation.
No way to know though, but when he pulls up in front of the hospital the next day, he looks up as if he already knows what floor her room is on, suggesting he might even have hung around while she was admitted (though this is really my imagination at work, I suppose -just like my suspicion that Joe put the flowers in her room.)
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