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Posted by Transmute Jun on 22-09-2009 at 13:40:

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Originally posted by amethyst
I wonder what it says about this episode that there are more comments about the poor Hanna Barbera fill-ins for BotP than there are comments about the original episode?


That the BOTP animation is really, spectacularly bad in this episode? Wink

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Posted by Transmute Jun on 22-09-2009 at 13:48:

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TJ, thanks again, this time, apart from the regular wonderful job on your recap, also for a good, healthy laugh! Now I confirm the fact why I definitely pushed aside BOTP episodes when I discovered the original Gatchaman series at my tender age!


You are lucky that you had that opportunity, Marie! Fortunately, this is one of the 'worst' episodes for that. Some of them (like this one) are really chopped up, while others are (mostly) intact. So yes, we all saw a warped view when we watched this as children, but clearly it didn't stop us from enjoying Gatchaman when we discovered it as adults!

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But, with your help, I'm enjoying reading through these BOTP episodes just to have a laugh and to strengthen my love for the true Gatchaman!


I'm really enjoying watching one episode after the other, which gives me a very good insight into what was kept, what was altered, and what was scrapped. It's amazing!

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The core device was really "huge" but when I come to think about technology during that time I don't think it seemed that huge when we first saw it!


You are right, of course. At the time, that likely looked like a very small computer brain! But of course, it was supposed to be the future, which is 'our' time now... which is why I'm amused.

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Posted by amethyst on 22-09-2009 at 14:40:

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So yes, we all saw a warped view when we watched this as children


And here I thought I turned out the way I did because of genetics. Now I know who to blame: Not my father's side of the family with the mutant genes, but Sandy Frank & Co and over-zealous censors (was Mrs Gore into censorship in the 70's? I know she was in the 80's) they warped the best TV show and tried to use Zark to brainwash us.

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Posted by Transmute Jun on 22-09-2009 at 15:46:

iagree Amethyst! I've always thought that Zark was some kind of brainwashing device.

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Posted by Firebird on 22-09-2009 at 19:14:

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iagree Amethyst! I've always thought that Zark was some kind of brainwashing device.


He is!

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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 23-09-2009 at 00:31:

When it comes to Zark and Susan, I wonder what Alan Young and Janet Waldo thought while reading those lines. They had to have spent almost as much time laughing as reading, at least.

(I traumatized Zark in my crossover. Unfortunately, he could be reprogrammed.)

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Posted by Transmute Jun on 23-09-2009 at 00:43:

The ultimate Zark fic is here. No reprogramming allowed.

Too Hot for Zark

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Posted by lborgia88 on 23-09-2009 at 04:44:

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Originally posted by amethyst
I wonder what it says about this episode that there are more comments about the poor Hanna Barbera fill-ins for BotP than there are comments about the original episode?


That the BOTP animation is really, spectacularly bad in this episode? Wink



I got me imagining how the Gatch characters might react to their "ready room" BOTP versions...


 


Posted by Springie on 23-09-2009 at 08:36:

pound pound LB, that is so funny!! You found the perfect horrified Ken expression!

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Posted by Transmute Jun on 23-09-2009 at 13:41:

LB, that's awesome! You really know how to make wonderful shots! pound

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Posted by clouddancer on 23-09-2009 at 14:56:

LB, that is great. I love how you can get right in their heads and know what they are thinking.

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Posted by gatchamarie on 23-09-2009 at 17:13:

Laugh2 Oh, LB, you're so good! When I first saw the BOTP version in this week's recap, the first thing that came to my mind was the same, that is what would the Gatch characters think if they saw their BOTP version (especially Ken - TJ described exactly what his position in the BOTP version resembled ... I couldn't stop laughing)! And you just couldn't come out with a better shot! Ken's horrified expression explains everything! You could add a shot from Gatch F of Ken with his Gatchafencer slicing the monitor! WTG!

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Posted by Transmute Jun on 23-09-2009 at 19:18:

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You could add a shot from Gatch F of Ken with his Gatchafencer slicing the monitor! WTG!


Or a picture of Berg Katse laughing hysterically... notice how Katse was never subjected to Sandy Frank animation? Wink

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Posted by amethyst on 23-09-2009 at 19:51:

Great Job, LB!

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Originally posted by Transmute Jun
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Originally posted by gatchamarie
You could add a shot from Gatch F of Ken with his Gatchafencer slicing the monitor! WTG!


Or a picture of Berg Katse laughing hysterically... notice how Katse was never subjected to Sandy Frank animation? Wink


1 -- or an irate Katse in a snit because Zoltar came across more balanced, sympathetic, or even more intelligent than he/she did; or because Zoltar is not a mutant

2 -- (This one may have come up before) Joe using images of Zark, or any BotP images for target practice

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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 26-09-2009 at 00:13:

I almost hurt myself laughing at the fic. Worse, I could HEAR Alan Young and Janet Waldo speaking those lines. (Now wondering what sort of bloopers were recorded all those years ago --- not to mention what sort of mischief the voice cast got up to when they were out of the booth.)

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Posted by amethyst on 26-09-2009 at 01:22:

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I almost hurt myself laughing at the fic. Worse, I could HEAR Alan Young and Janet Waldo speaking those lines. (Now wondering what sort of bloopers were recorded all those years ago --- not to mention what sort of mischief the voice cast got up to when they were out of the booth.)


With that cast, I'm sure the directors and producers had their hands full. To bad they don't have bloopers for cartoons like they do for movies and tv shows.

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Posted by Firebird on 26-09-2009 at 10:57:

LB I do love your captions with those pics - it is so well put together and I do love that zark fic TJ its one of my favourites cant think why Wink

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Posted by UnpublishedWriter on 27-04-2010 at 14:25:

Back in order, episodes! Now!

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Posted by condorcandi on 11-06-2010 at 09:11:

My dad told me that when a friend showed him a 'portable' calculator in the late 1960's, the thing was the size of a briefcase and had cost almost $100. And that was less powerful than the freebie calculators offered today when you apply for a credit card. In 1972, that chip could have been everything the writers said it was. Time and technology do march on.

What drives me NUTS about this ep -and it's only mildly comforting that Gatch and BotP do this too- is that there's apparently security out the wazoo on this mission, what with the special plane and the guards and whatnot. But the stewardess seems to be considered SO umimportant that she's not provided with any kind of security or escort, walking across the airfield by herself, through some poorly lit areas. She's just left vulnerable. Error It's ridiculous. It's the same kind of thinking that has security all over who's let into here and there -but they never bother checking out or monitoring the janitor. Seriously.

Sorry, this is a sore point with me. Elfmad

This is also one of the eps that was driving me nuts with the 'male or female' Purple Villain question. Then I learned that the original PDOS was supposed to be BOTH. And THEN UW comes up with that Katze was supposed to be entirely female originally. Oh boy. Faint

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Posted by Transmute Jun on 11-06-2010 at 13:10:

You make a good point about the security for the stewardess, Candi, but I think she was just reporting to work. At what point does the security begin? Do they pick up the pilots and stewardesses from their home and escort them to the airfiled? I don't think that's usual. I'm guessing that the stewardess parked in the wrong lot and unwisely chose to cut across a dark part of the airfield. That, sadly, does happen IRL.

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