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Posted by gatchgirl on 29-07-2009 at 15:39:
gatchamarie... you are reminding me of my younger days. When I was more Eagle then Condor. 
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Posted by gatchamarie on 29-07-2009 at 19:34:
I would like to be a Condor myself, Gatchgirl! Sometimes it peaks out a bit ... ehm, the Condor side I mean ... just to be hushed back in by morality issues, responsibility, etc, etc! Perhaps it's a drawback of living on a small island like mine where every corner you turn you could meet someone knowing you and where your behaviour is scrutinized and talked about with every false action you take! Fortunately enough, nowadays things are changing and getting better as people are becoming more open minded!
CD, I totally agree with your comment regarding the show versus RL issue. TJ, we sometimes forget how young the team members are in this series as we take them for granted most of the times. It's easy to point out the dos and don'ts when you are only a spectator!
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Posted by amethyst on 29-07-2009 at 20:17:
Hey Gatchamarie, don't let size fool you. I grew up in a town with a population of around 4000. Kids were busted before we even thought of being in trouble, but it didn't stop most of us.
Never be afraid to let you inner-Condor out!
And to get this back to topic. I forgot my comments about seat-belts and Nambu not wearing one.
I don't think anyone had seat belt laws in 1972. Illinois had a strange one in the early 80's that was for driver and front seat passengers only. California's law wasn't passed until 1986/87-ish (I think the legislature must have known that's when I'd get my license); Wisconsin was about the same time. Most other states in the US followed after that. I can't speak about Europe or Asia; though, I'd imagine that most of their seat belt laws came around the same time period.
**Note, this comment comes from my teaching literature to high school students who don't want to do the assigned readings (Yes, Amethyst is a self-admitted masochist), with a tendancy to lean toward historical criticism.**
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Posted by tatsunokofan on 29-07-2009 at 21:47:
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Yes and no. Like all episodes of Gatchaman, this one had three Key Animators working on it; Masami Suda, Hiroko Inui, and Hideaki Akamoto.
Masami Suda was anything but an "intern animator." He had been working at Tatsunoko since the days of Speed Racer, and was a Key Animator for 22 episodes of Gatchaman. Prior to this episode, he had worked on episode #'s 1, 3, 8, 11, 17, 24, and 27 (Which, if you look back on them, are all episodes that look pretty darn good).
Hiroko Inui worked on a total of 6 episodes of Gatchaman, including three prior to this one -- episode #'s 11, 22, and 28. I can't find any record of her working on any series prior to or after Gatchaman, so it is possible that she was a so-called "intern animator" with only three episodes experience under her belt.
Hideaki Akamoto would eventually be a Key Animator on 16 episodes of Gatchaman, including such notables as #'s 78, 92, and 105, but this episode was his first on the series. Like Ms. Inui, I am unable to find any references to work that he did prior to Gatchaman, so it is possible that this was his animation debut, not just his debut work on Gatchaman. He continued working as an Animator at least through the 1990s.
It should be noted that staff records for older anime series, beyond Writers and Directors, are difficult to locate. So it is possible that both Mr. Akamoto and Ms. Inui had been working in the animation industry prior to their work on Gatchaman.
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Japan introduced seat belt laws for drivers and front seat passengers back in 1985, but began to require back seat passengers to wear them only last year.
James
Posted by lborgia88 on 30-07-2009 at 04:15:
Thanks for the info on the animators, James! It does seem likely that either Inui or Akamoto might have been the one drawing Joe... a bit differently than he usually appears. Whoever it was, they clearly improved rapidly as I don't think there's an episode where Joe looked quite like this again.
Posted by gatchamarie on 30-07-2009 at 08:00:
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I'll take that as a resolution, Amethyst!
As for the seat-belt issue, I remember way back in 1989, here we did not have any laws yet imposing the use of seat-belts, neither for the front seat passenger. This I know for sure as me and my mum were involved in a bad car accident during that year when mum was driving. Only after about ten years later did I learn that I had developed a cervical slip disc as a result of a whiplash injury provoked by that accident in which I was not wearing a seat-belt .. and it's not a joke! So please make sure that all of you wear their seat-belts, especially kids! Now laws have been enforced for seat-belts to be worn by all passengers, front and back.
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Posted by clouddancer on 30-07-2009 at 09:44:
Since it had felt like I was always required to wear a seat belt I was surprised to learn when I Googled, that Ontario was the first jurisdiction in North America to make seat belt usage mandatory in 1976.
I am not sure if that was just for persons sitting in the front of the car or for everyone in the car, since I do remember when I was very young kneeling on the back seat so I could see out the windows. Today in Ontario we even have made it mandatory that children to the age of 8, weighs 36 kg (80 lbs.) or is 145 cm (4 feet, 9 inches) tall must use a booster seat.
I believe Ontario is enforcing some of the most rigid criteria for seat belts in North America (Maybe the world from what I am reading from all these comments) but as the slogan says, "Seat Belts Save Lives."
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Posted by gatchgirl on 31-07-2009 at 16:02:
I know that the state of Indiana requires all passengers to be seat belted in... I found out the hard way, when I went there for a few hours, only to have our car pulled over by the cops. Otherwise I still wouldn't have known that...
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 31-07-2009 at 19:23:
Are you saying that you weren't wearing your seatbelt, GG? 
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Posted by amethyst on 01-08-2009 at 04:53:
I remember the laws changing in the US as they all began to change when I got my permit and license (1985/86 -- okay yes I just dated myself and my students hated me when they asked my birthday and I gave them a riddle instead), but they where all changing so fast it was hard to keep up. But my biggest memory was 1978/79 we'd just moved from Santa Cruz to a small cow pasture of a town north of San Francisco and my brother and I could ride in the car without seat belts from Santa Cruz to Hollister but we couldn't ride from our new home to Santa Cruz without them. The logic of my parents!
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Posted by Springie on 01-08-2009 at 13:20:
Teehee...I also rode without seatbelts...I remember spending the entire time in the car being perched between my mom and dad as we rode! I would lean forward so I could be in on the conversation! How dangerous was that?
(and I got my license in 87- so I'm not far behind you!)
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Posted by amethyst on 01-08-2009 at 16:40:
Or riding in the back of pick-ups. We used to do that all the time. But then when my cousin got his motor bike, I'd have to wear his helmet when he gave me rides; the thing was too big for me and then he didn't have one. We may be smarter than previous generations, but I think we've become more anal retentive, too.
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Posted by gatchgirl on 02-08-2009 at 22:17:
Nope TJ, but being in the backseat I'm not used to it. Along with trying to be a "part" of the conversation going on in the front.
My bad was, I was laying down in the back seat with my feet out the window slightly... Guess the officer didn't like that too well. OOPS!
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 02-08-2009 at 22:57:
I love this ep! Its on my faves list, I just love that image of Joe sitting on his car qith shuriken in his mouth...and then later he's waiting for her at the race tracj not knowing he killed her...sad...angsty Condor moment.
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 02-08-2009 at 23:35:
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Anything I've done in Leadership talks about this balance. Its often referred to as Tough skin- soft heart approach. Unfortunately Leaders aren't perfect people either, but in Ken's case he was chosen because of his decisive skills even as a teenager.
As for teh secrets, Ken has to chose how much he tells at times to keep them focused on the task at hand. Historically leaders are known for keeping information from sub ordinates if it doesn't serve the purpose of what they want to a achieve. Ken could have been following this line of thinking...but the lesson he learns is that it has consequences too if it all goes wrong or not according to plan. (Leaders have to grow, a leader never stops growing as a person or in their role as a leader.) Just think most military commanders generally have about 20yrs experience before they get to that point!!! WWII they might not have had as many options and promoted people during battle to replace a fallen leader...No choice there, the troops need a Leader to keep moving! But that still wouldn't have been a teenager. (Royalty well thats being born into it and scary! But knights started training at 7yrs old. In the teams case, Ken would have started young too, that makes his role a little more believeable.) He has to be able to give the information when its needed....
In there kind of work they need a certain Discipline that not everyone has to make the team work like it does. They might have temper conflicts, soft spots and attitude at times, but they have to keep focused and have that tough outer skin. However Joe's softer heart is shown in how he related to the girl he saved from the burning car. He uses the racing to think things through, get out excessive aggression thats natural for his personality...
Where am I going with this...Ebony stops to ponder and scratches her head...thinking...I think I've just gone into rambling mode...
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Posted by gatchamarie on 03-08-2009 at 07:02:
Ebony, what you're saying here is true and makes a hell lot of sense! I don't know which is better - if being a leader or a subordinate! A leader is either hated or loved through his actions and decisions and sometimes his decisions are misunderstood though taken for the benefit of the others. But then there are also various kinds of leaders who are extremists and that's where problems arise!
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 04-08-2009 at 02:07:
I heard the other day that to be a good leader is also to be submissive too... it sounds like a contradiction doesn't it. But there's truth in it. Even a leader of a nation has some else they answer too.
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Posted by Condorfan on 07-08-2009 at 00:57:
This episode has one of my favorite Joe moments when he is sitting on the hood of the G2 chewing on his shuriken and then striking the Devilstar.
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Posted by Transmute Jun on 24-08-2009 at 11:20:
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That's awesome....
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The Luminous One has interesting tastes....
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