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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 10-04-2009 at 11:44:
Zark's voice pipes up again, full of relief because he is so glad that Princess and Mark are friends again. Quarrels are forgotten when things get rough. When people work together as G-Force do a strong bond is developed - that's the secret of their success you know.
Zark gripes a little at not being programmed for feeling (although you'd never know it) and is so very proud to be a member of .... G-Force!
I loved this ep and when I watched it again and the part where they quarrel I thought "If my DH and I quarreled like they do wouldn't that be nice!" Since it was just Mark telling her to stay focused etc, not really a quarrel at all.
Heehehhhheee that line cracked me up!!!
Great work SJ, I love the write up for the ep.
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 10-04-2009 at 11:49:
Ken's features were softer in the earlier eps and Joe face lacked the details they later did when he became more popular...
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Posted by SJ_SwanJun on 10-04-2009 at 13:03:
WOW LB & Saturn, what a gorgeous summary the two of you put together.
You guys worked hard on this and should be totally proud of yourselves!! I'm in awe of the wonderful pictures (the peanut gallery comments -- Saturn, you rock and know how to make a girl giggle) and the fantastic summary.
Who needs to watch the epi when we have a breakdown like that??!!
I'm with all of you on the "creepy" smile thing at the end. So cute, of course as it makes my shippy heart flutter, but also totally wierd... The animation posted later was too cool....
LB, you're right, with just little tweaks in the dialogue it really does change everything...
Joe is really soft-featured in this episode -- much like the new Joe we're seeing posters of. In this I can believe him to still be in his teens.
Ebony -- I hear you on the argument thing. Generally when we go at our DH's it is somewhat more volatile, isn't it.
I suppose in a kid's eyes if you snark back it is considered quarreling... well when we were kids anyway.
So great job LB & Saturn!!!! I love it!
SJ
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Posted by lborgia88 on 10-04-2009 at 15:20:
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I'd say you and SJ are right. A comparison between episodes 2 and 98 sure shows a difference in Joe's face. I'd say he became less "pretty" later in the series, but that's the face I know and love...
Posted by SJ_SwanJun on 10-04-2009 at 16:06:
His eyes are also a different shape LB...
In the first image, he is very Eagle-like doncha thnk?
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Posted by lborgia88 on 10-04-2009 at 17:03:
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You know, maybe that was the issue. The artists might have decided, early in the series, that Joe looked too similar to Ken, and they sought ways to make his face -and eyes - more unique. Joe did end up looking more harsh, but I think that suits his personality and his storyline in the first series.
Posted by Condorfan on 11-04-2009 at 00:11:
Thanks for posting those pictures lborgia. I never realized that Joe looked very Eagle like in the beginning of the series.
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Posted by gogirl212 on 11-04-2009 at 04:51:
What great work, ladies. You all make a fairly fantastic team yourselves.
The evolution of Condor Joe is interesting - i never really noticed the differences before.
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Posted by shamrokchick on 11-04-2009 at 15:57:
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I always thought that too. Joe is the one character who seems to look different in every episode to me which works well for his story line.
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Posted by Reboekah on 11-04-2009 at 16:34:
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True - but the animators were probably still trying to get "on model" - same episode, different frame - a bit closer to the Joe we know at the end of the series... but I also won't argue that Joe's face took on much character (and reflected the difficulties he faced) by the end of the first series.
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Ken, on the other hand, does not have as much change in facial structure - although there are some shots in the first couple of episodes in which he appears much "younger" - probably due to the lack of line detailing for cheekbones and such. Even Jun, Jinpei and Ryu have moments in the episode of visual simplification which disappear as the series progresses.
It is fun to watch - and Joe's transformation is certainly startling when comparing the initial episodes to the later ones.
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Posted by lborgia88 on 12-04-2009 at 06:03:
Yes, the ep. 2 image you posted does have a more Joe-like eye shape. Lord knows I find it hard to draw one pic of Joe "on model" -I don't blame the artists for needing a few eps or so to get hang of drawing him consistently in multiple frames!
Posted by Reboekah on 12-04-2009 at 22:12:
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That was actually an ep 1 image - from just a few minutes later in the sequence.
And I agree - getting Joe "on model" is terribly challenging!
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Posted by Ebonyswanne on 13-04-2009 at 09:58:
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I found he became more manly later on, and he looked much older than earlier in the series. In the later eps he could easily be early twenties rather than a teenager.
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Posted by Springie on 13-04-2009 at 12:55:
Those Joe comparisons are amazing...I think they all looked older later in the series, though...but Joe was more pronounced...
Here is another attempt to post my Fan Page...hope it works!
Fan Page Episode 2
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Posted by lborgia88 on 13-04-2009 at 14:27:
The "doc file" image is appearing this time for me, Springie! (Although, I was able to get to it before by clicking on "Springie's Fan Pages" and then finding ep. 2).
Jinpei really does like to tease Jun, doesn't he? If he'd seen Katse without his lipstick in this ep, he'd probably have accused Jun of taking it...
Posted by clouddancer on 13-04-2009 at 23:41:
Sorry to go back to this, but I wonder if you could capture images of Joe in birdstyle from the beginning and ending and then out of uniform and compare them.
Perhaps as I have read in may fics the artists were trying to go with the idea that the helmets/visors made their features look different. Or maybe I am just taking this too far....
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Posted by lborgia88 on 14-04-2009 at 00:19:
Let's see...
Joe in ep. 1
and ep. 88
Joe in ep. 9
Joe in ep. 101
I've just noticed that there aren't many images of him in his civvies at all in the earliest episodes! He does, to me, look a bit different in the later episodes (in and out of birdstyle) and also a bit older, but I think it's mostly that there's more detail added to his face, and a lot of that is lines that make his nose, chin and cheeks a bit sharper and harsher, and that seems to add some age.
Posted by Transmute Jun on 14-04-2009 at 00:21:
Why do Joe's eyes look green in Ep 9????
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Posted by clouddancer on 14-04-2009 at 00:23:
Even by eps. 9 Joe is getting more of his hardened features less of his softer features.
Thank you LB.
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Posted by lborgia88 on 14-04-2009 at 00:31:
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He's standing opposite Jun, and the image of her hair is reflecting in his eyes?
Regarding what CD said about whether their visors make their faces look different -I've always assumed that we're supposed to believe that their visors disguise their identities. After all, Dr. Boronbo's daughter Rumi spends a lot of time near Ken when he's in birdstyle, but can't really recognize him later when she sees him in his civvies. But, we the viewers need to be able to see their faces, or else it would be no fun for us to watch them if we couldn't see their expressions. The visors certainly change the colours of their hair and eyes, to us the veiwers, but I'm not so sure the artists draw them differently in and out of birdstyle.
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