Ok Lola, give it your best shot. Just How can you or anyone compare Battlestar Galactica's Starbuck to the Condor? Just what qualities can you see that make them similar apart from the fact they are perfect shots, answer to their No. 1's, and sometimes wont go strictly by the rules?

Hmm.... Let's start with the fact that they are both considered the best 'shots' as far as fighter/gunner qualities are concerned. Swashbuckling, womanizing, reckess?, shoot first ask questions later type of swoon-worthy individuals.... I know you want me to back this up with examples...but cannot do that right now..... (I'm gonna love this thread).... Anyone else?

Joe is just the gun toting hardcore car racing guy who has not much luck in love and tries not to run over puppies. Starbuck is a happy chappy, who smokes cigars and likes to play at Battstar's version of poker, chills out with friends and when he's with one of his ladies friends, he tries not be seen with them by his other ladies friends. HHHHHhhhhhhmmmmmmm, I think I need to have some and think about this.

Starbuck doesn't have a legal guardian who would be upset if he smoked cigars or played poker. (Then again, maybe Joe doesn't either.) Starbuck doesn't have a secret identity. (Joe's team claims to have them.)

Also Starbuck doesn't wear a T-shirt with a number but Joe does, though Galactor a bit slow on that number thing.

Starbuck would be closer to Jason than Joe in comparison, that is if Jason wasnt moody, and into revenge! Er, and Joe/Jason never smoked. at least not in Gatch and BOTP . We just like to think of them doing so. Could be the shuriken in the mouth fetish they DO have. I dont know, in a wistful kind of way Starbuck would have been the perfect G2 we would have loved to have seen, had Joe/Jason not been beset with the tragedies that befell him. Who knows how many fanfic writers would have fallen into the trap of personifying Joe/Jason as Starbuck. Ive read so many fics in the past where that attractive alluring roguish characteristic was given to the G2 instead of the tragic revenge focused tortured soul that he was. If both Starbuck and Joe competed for a date with a gal, Starbuck would win hands down!! this guy would know how to wine dine and paint the town red with her!! Joe on the other hand, would not feel as comfortable unless he knew the girl, ( eg. Lucy) or if it was some damsel in distress (devil star) . This guy simply lucks out and would be too burnt by his experience to trust anyone ....Unless it was Jun Ill angst away with Joe anyday, but give me Starbuck for one heck of a good time!!

You gan have the male Starbuck andIwillhave tefeale Starbuck. That's though, rogue. I couldn't think of the word for Starbuck in the orginal series but that's the word, rogue.

The both (male comparisions) are ladies men just starbuck was more of a joker and gambler than the Condor who is much rougher and more attitude.more punch... The new starbuck in female for has more the attitude though but still there is something sexy about the condor and very male mmmmm yummmmm

you kidding? After seeing the series and the new Starbuck, I think she exudes just as much sexual energy as the Condor!!! Kara and Joe are BOTH emitting a dangerous mesmerising sexual quality due to their inner drives. Both are fueled by anger, revenge and inner pain that presents itself as outer arrogance and swagger. They both display equal amounts of risktaking and recklessness -Kara saving Apollo's butt while he is in his crippled fighter, linking both their jets and bringing them into the docking bay mere seconds before Galactica has to "jump" , is as daring as when Joe had to save Ken's and Jun's butts when he drove up that cobra mecha!- Swoonworthy feats to be sure! I enjoy the relationship each "second" has with their commanders. That bond each of them shares with their "no 1's" is similar in that they wont hesitate to act with their fists if not their cutting tongues to point out any mistakes either Apollo or Ken have made. Both comparable bonds contain an intimate element that have fuelled many a fanfic writers imagination. Its that special close bond which can be explored and more delved in with Starbuck as a female compared to the Condor and his Eagle whose layer of imaginary sexual tension can only be explored in yaoi fanfics. Now if the Condor could have been female, and been able to have the same free licence as does Kara with Lee , to delve with the Eagle... then again, it wouldnt be possible because Jun perfectly compliments Ken's fierce loyal nature...hmm..or does she? Katse (Mala) has had some very charged encounters with Ken ..hmmm... And were Apollo to have found a Swan like female character on the Galactica , would he still be interested in Starbuck? hmmm....interesting...... (Hey blame all these musings on Lola..*grin* BSG ROCKS!)

I was talking about the original male starbuck.... in the new series absolutley on equal par with the Condor... the comparisons a closer with the new series. Lots of doors to open ther Imagtza..... These days women are betrayed as stronger chararcters... Still I sometimes think Jun is like the baby face Assassin never to be underestimated.... makes a good ninja in that you wouldn't pick her in civilan clothing....I've gone of track here I think! Cheers

Originally posted by Ebonyswanne I've gone off track here I think! Cheers

Thats okay Ebonyswanne, I am told all threads go off topic on this site. *Maybe on other sites to but I would not know that* That is probably why this smilie was needed

No worries.....I don't go to other forums anyway.....cute smiley! Now all is well in the world....

hmm Stabuck and Joe. I think Kara would have been a onderful compliment for Joe's firey nature. Now there is a smut fic in waiting *walks off pondering kara and joe*