Greetings to all! In watching Gatchaman (again for the Nth time) I realized there were a few episodes I wasn't thrilled with. The Jigokillers episode for one--I didn't like to see Ken slap Jun. And I also didn't like Joe slapping her either in the Jiro episode. (She needs to take those guys down a peg). What other episodes of Gatch or BOTP do people not like? Peace.

I have to say...those are some of my favorite episodes (Jigokillers is my #1 fav., followed by The Bitter Bird Missile ep)...but I didn't like them slapping Jun either! I noticed that Joe hits her a whole lot harder than Ken did...Ken's almost seemed like it was "for show"...like he did it because he would have done it to any of the other guys...so he had to do it to her,too, to not show favoritism. (LOL)I think there are many others who agree...because I have seen several fanfics that deal with the slapping incidents. My least favorite ep is #46...Gatchaman in the Valley of Death. It only has Ken in it...so I miss the rest of the team! Gotta have the team interaction!

It's not as if Jun lacks the capability to hit the guys back. She hits (and kills) Galactors all the time. Hitting each other seems to be a significant part of how the team get along. If somebody knows they were wrong, they don't hit back - it seems to be a team rule. I always find ep 20, the puppy episode, to be cringeworthy. It has an added cringe factor, as when I was watching G-Force and trying to get my husband to watch it too (he remembered BOTP) to bring back some memories, the day he agreed to watch it with me it was the puppy episode. Now, the japanese version, being in a foreign language, has all that melodrama but it's not so bad if you can't understand the words. The G-Force version, being in english, is banal. So I never got a chance to get him to watch another episode of G-Force with me after that. I don't think there are any other original Gatch episodes I truly dislike. There are some truly daft ones, like the bowling ball one and the one with the flying rainbow walrus, but I can happily watch those as the silliness fills me with glee. Gatch 2 has the green neanderthals episode, that's quite poor. Also the pyramid power episode. And I'm not sure about the Jinpei talks to animals episode either. The Gatch F episode with the cows has to be seen just to be believed. If you follow my website link and go to Gatch F reviews, I have a writeup on it and a number of other Gatch F episodes (ah, if only my NTSC vcr hadn't died). Unfortunately my views on Gatch F are seriously affected by the fact that I haven't got a blood clue what's going on a lot of the time. The storytelling isn't quite as obvious as original Gatch.

I'll admit that the Jigokillers was a good character show spotlighting Jun and showing how Ken feels about her. It's just when Ken goes off and disobeys orders that OK?! I guess if one of the guys had gone off he would have slugged them (except Jinpei--he probably would have got a rap on the head). I think I would also have to agree the puppy episode was strange. It might have made sense if Joe had rescued a child instead. Although it was good to show how the team cares about each other. But Dr. Nambu though--Yes you have a brain injury--let's put you in a centrifuge!

Mummy is my least fav so far. Telling he kid that his father won't come back if he's not good. I prefer the BOTP version; haven't seen it for a while, so it may have some of the same, but I like how Mark lets the kid blame him and hate him so that he'll really believe his father's dead and get closure. Very early in the series, but especially poignant later, when we realize that Mark probably wishes he could believe his own father was dead rather than torture himself with "he might be alive".

Originally posted by CricketBeautiful Mummy is my least fav so far. Telling he kid that his father won't come back if he's not good. I prefer the BOTP version; haven't seen it for a while, so it may have some of the same, but I like how Mark lets the kid blame him and hate him so that he'll really believe his father's dead and get closure. Very early in the series, but especially poignant later, when we realize that Mark probably wishes he could believe his own father was dead rather than torture himself with "he might be alive".

I agre with you there with that episode Cricket. In fact, that was properly my favourite bit in the episode. I don't think I have any favourite episodes in either series but there are some that I am not keen on. Jigokillers is one that is my least favorite for some unknown reason. I wil also agree with the puppy episode that because if you had to save a puppy and got a head inury, then you are spun around so fast that you are dizzy and the chances that you get killed are 2 - 1. I do like the fact that that episode and several others in BOTP are more about a member of the team. As for Jun getting slapped, that's just called equal opportunites.

I'd say my least favorite is the roller skating episode. There are just some things that super secret ninjas should not be asked to do...

Ah yes. I really like that episode right up until they do the rollerskate fight. Up until then it's a great character episode and Jun gets to dress up. But fighting on rollerskates is one of those things that should never be done, like running with scissors - even ninjas shouldn't do that.

I agree with you, Meridian! It was fun watching them skate, and seeing Jun with the clothes...but the "Bird Whip" was ridiculous! "BIRD WHIP!" LOL...

\Oh, forgot tht one. That was just silly, a bird whip indeed. Whose ide was that or did they just make that up. What ever will be next? Bird Whip Cream.

I will agree that some of those episodes you really need to be in the right frame of mind to enjoy, another episode that I really have a hard time watching is the one with Orian the dog, not sure why it can be a painful experiance. Guess it's just this crazy mind of mine.

I have to agree with you guys on the bird roller episode. The sad thing is, the first 20 minutes of this are FANTASTIC. The night fight in the woods, the plane ride, the character interaction, Jinpei shucking the hero stuff to be a regualar kid, even the time spent practicing at the roller rink. It's the last several minutes that are PAINFUL!!. (Joe still looks hot, though!

And Jun posing in front of the mirror was precious.

I agree...it was nice seeing Jun get to be a girl for once...although they could have let her wear better clothes in the show...and it would have been nice if the rest of the team hadd been there to watch...but I guess they were "on duty"...

I also wasn't too fond of the "Mysterious Red Sand" episode...I found it kinda boring...don't know why...

Originally posted by gatchgirl I will agree that some of those episodes you really need to be in the right frame of mind to enjoy, another episode that I really have a hard time watching is the one with Orian the dog, not sure why it can be a painful experiance. Guess it's just this crazy mind of mine.

I didin't think that was a reat episode, not because it was a painful experince but it was painful just watching it.

Originally posted by Springie I also wasn't too fond of the "Mysterious Red Sand" episode...I found it kinda boring...don't know why...

Yeah, I know what you mean. I think that every series has certain episodes that aren't brilliant. Take Star Trek, Dr Who, Stargate, Blake's 7, just name a few. This could be just that you can't just have great episodes every single time.

It was rather painful to watch Metaliant, also springie I will have to try and watch at least part of that episode before I reply. Nice to see ya stopping by again Ruthie, feel free to visit us or my crazy personallity more often.

Is that wise, visting your crazy personality? Could anybody catch it via the internet?

Why are you afraid of a little insanity!!! muwawawawa

Ahhhhh...yes....Gatchgirl is definitely contagious! I was corrupted long ago!

Gosh I almost forgot the bird whip! That has to be the least favorite I've seen. How silly is that? (Great pics though Springie!) But it was nice to see Jun in something other than her ususal street clothes.

Originally posted by gatchgirl Why are you afraid of a little insanity!!! muwawawawa

It's too late for me anyway as I am a carrier. Besides, I think you are more ion the insane of insanity and I am more on the Just Mad side of insanity.

I think you are so right Metaliant, thanks for noticing!!!

There's nothng wrong with insanity but I just like being mad and confusing people a lot. I reckon it's why I am put on this planet.

Same way I feel about my insanity!

[FONT=comic sans ms]Speaking of insanity. What in the world was Tatsunoko thinking when they unleased the puppy episode. It's funny enough to not be terribly painful, but WOH![/FONT]

There are definitely some things that make you go "hmmmmmm" in that episode!

I did that all through the episode saying hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm.