Sitting down confortable kiddies? Good then I will begin. In a galaxy far, far, far, away........ First I had a Commordore Vic 20, then I had this even older looking computer which could go on a 80s network but not the Internet as it wasn't even inveented then. Then I had my parents really old 90s computer and I just played couple of games including Wolferstein 3D on it. Then I had a slightly new old computer which I could finally go onto the internet but on dialup couple of years ago. Only 2 years ago, I had this computer I am on now and couple of months later I was on broadband. so far, so good. But because I bought a Xbox 360, which I bought for the intention of playing online, I had to buy a modem/router and a wireless adaptor for the PC. I have used the modem/router for about 4/5 months but couldn't put in the adaptor into the PC (or so I thought) as I was partially sighted and not confident of installing it without breaking it. The PC and modem/router was connected to a filter upstiars in my front bedroom, which was connected to a phone extension wire, which was itself connected to another filter downstairs, in my lounge in the phone socket. The connection wasn't brilliant and often (not always) was disconnecting and then connecting again. I decided to phone my ISP (Internet Serivce Provider) this morning and see if it's them or phone line or something else. I was told to try to put the adaptor in and the modem/router downstairs into the phone socket. So this afternoon, I did and guess what, it worked brilliantly and I have been on the PC and Xbox 360 all day excepet at tea time. I just love going without any strings, or wires, or whatever. Don't you?

I don't like it at all. I've been wireless ever since my PC got moved downstairs when our computer room turned back into a bedroom (last august), and my PC disconnects all the time. So I should get my act together and reinstall windows again as it looks as if I have some process hogging thing installed, that I might be able to miss out with a reinstall. But it's a pain in the bottom. The other wireless PC next to mine, on the other hand, works just fine. But it hasn't got most of the stuff I use on it, as it's a much lower spec PC and it wouldn't be able to cope.

My wireless is great, considering it's free with the apartment. >_> I wish it was faster, but that's probably due to the age of my laptop. Poor laptop.

Is your laptop near retirement age?

I got the title of the thread slight worng, it should have said Going wireless without wires but I wasn't really looking where Iwas typing. Oh well

Haven't even thought of going wireless yet although it does sound like something that I might want to try. So tired of tripping on the cable cords. Matter of fact I have only started to expand to broadband since January. This last month I finally upgraded to the fastest speed that I can get in this area. Well have to visit the see ya

Whoo just made that one

My laptop is PAST retirement age, poor thing. So far I haven't had any software problems, but it is physically falling apart. Little itty-bitty plastic connectors that hold it together are snapping. The monitor part is plastic-welded because of that. Basically, it's succumbing to planned obsolesence. Hardware-wise, it's out of date. Wal-Mart computers can kick it all the way to the beginning of time and back. However, it has served its purpose incredibly well, which was to get me through college. So I can't complain too much.

Originally posted by gatchgirl Haven't even thought of going wireless yet although it does sound like something that I might want to try. So tired of tripping on the cable cords. Matter of fact I have only started to expand to broadband since January. This last month I finally upgraded to the fastest speed that I can get in this area. Well have to visit the see ya

Over here, Bt is going to go to 8 meg soon and Carphone Warehouse has got free broadband at 8 meg. All you need to do is pay for the line rental to BT and pay Carphone only £9.99 per monthly use of th elandline with quite cheap calls. I am interested in that but I am now not in a rush though.

Originally posted by gatchgirl Whoo just made that one

Didn't really wanted to know that you were going to the toilet. Hoped you flushed and washed your hands though?

Originally posted by Elvin Ruler My laptop is PAST retirement age, poor thing. So far I haven't had any software problems, but it is physically falling apart. Little itty-bitty plastic connectors that hold it together are snapping. The monitor part is plastic-welded because of that. Basically, it's succumbing to planned obsolesence. Hardware-wise, it's out of date. Wal-Mart computers can kick it all the way to the beginning of time and back. However, it has served its purpose incredibly well, which was to get me through college. So I can't complain too much.

I was SO far behind people in technology wise that I always wanted a mobile, Freeview or a computer for online purposes. But now I have slowly caught up and even passed some people. Well at least owning a newer mobile phone than couple of others, but that's because my old mobile was going a bit wonky (funny).

Are you talking about wireless broadband or going wireless? As in wireless networking? Oh and the internet was invented long before the 80's you probably mean the old BBS services you used to get. It was the introduction of DNS which really enabled the Internet we now know to take off. I remember them BBS systems well. Anyway wireless broadband is not as good as it once was. Whilst my broadband service was extremely fast in the past it is now not so. It seems line services have vastly taken over the wireless broadband markets for home users. In fact we may be changing back to a landline service. As for wireless networking you have to remember that contention will sometimes give only half the speed you get through a standard cat 5 lead. Plus you have to be wary of people scanning their local neighbourhood for wireless networks to jump on and start stealing their bandwidth.

Yeah. Since we get free wireless internet with the apartments, many of us just search around for the fastest one in the complex at the time. When I move eventually, I'll probably switch to a landline. Just faster overall.

I remember the wireless internet service my company used to have - we had to be in line of sight from the aerial (or was it a dish?) on top of the office roof to the broadcasting pylon on top of a hill several miles away. Because it had taken a long time to get permission from the office building owners to put the aerial/dish up, 150-200 of us had been struggling along with one insufficient wire for a long, long time and when we got our wireless internet access we were just blown away by the speed of it. And apparently it could have gone 1000 times faster too. I was so impressed. But, since being bought out a few times, that system and office have long since gone. Now all our email is stuck on a server 80 miles away, meaning it takes a long time to open anything, and for a while our internet access came through a slow wan link from a (poxy) proxy 50 miles away. Ah, for the heady days when servers were vaguely local and we had some control over ITS policies.

Originally posted by Cep Are you talking about wireless broadband or going wireless? As in wireless networking? Oh and the internet was invented long before the 80's you probably mean the old BBS services you used to get. It was the introduction of DNS which really enabled the Internet we now know to take off. I remember them BBS systems well. Anyway wireless broadband is not as good as it once was. Whilst my broadband service was extremely fast in the past it is now not so. It seems line services have vastly taken over the wireless broadband markets for home users. In fact we may be changing back to a landline service. As for wireless networking you have to remember that contention will sometimes give only half the speed you get through a standard cat 5 lead. Plus you have to be wary of people scanning their local neighbourhood for wireless networks to jump on and start stealing their bandwidth.

I think I mean wireless networking as my modem/router is now plugged into the phone socket in my lounge and not through the filter, phone extension line and another filter at the phone socket, which was why I was being disconnected quite a few times because the signal was getting degraded by the time it got to my computer and yes I am wary of people stealing my bandwidth because they are too lazy to get their own. And yes I know the internet was invented before the 80s but you have to remember it was the internet like we got now and wasn't if used by the US military? I doubt if any old computers I had could get on it anyway. Tell me more about these BBS things. Never even heard of them before.

Heh. My parents live out in the middle of nowhere. They've been told that they can expect fast landlines in about 20 years. No broadband, no cable. They use dial-up, and the distance they live means that they get about 24kbs, if they're lucky. I didn't know that distance affected other forms either. I learned something today!

20 YEARS. My god, by that time, there won't be any landlines, we just have wireless stuff plugged into our brains or something like that. I also hoipe you laptop still works bu that time.

Yeah...they're waiting for satellite internet to get cheaper. It isn't very popular due to the fact that it's expensive, but it's the fastest service that they'd be able to get in their area. Dad had it when he was still working for a software company. He could upload a terabyte of information in an hour or so. Of course, when he retired, they didn't pay for that anymore. But yeah, in 20 years, landlines are going to be obsolete. It'll be too bad, because I'm not really one for weird things in my brain. >_>

My ISP is quite good and stayed with them since having the old dialup but now the Carphone Warehouse is giving away free 8 meg broadband which sound good because all I need to is pay for the line rental which is £10 excluding VAT and only £9.99 for the phone calls per month, but I need to check out whether I need to pay to switch ISPs or not. Not too sure about satelite internet, in fact, never even heard of it until a work colleague mentioned it a while back, but didn't say much about it.

It's REALLY expensive, from what I've heard. Again, the stuff my dad had was provided by the company he worked for. I never used it, though I would drool over it occasionally. It'll take a long time before it's cheap enough to be used outside of the electronic corporate world. 8 meg broadband for free? Not bad, not bad. Free is a pretty good deal (though I've found that there are often things that you're already paying for that cover what the company "loses" for giving away items).

I hoped your drool didn't go all over the equpiment otherwise, it may be a shocking experience. Sorry, for that poor joke there. And you are right, they may have free broadband but there could be other things. I will check out the cost of calls, though it's suppose to be chaper than BT. I am always a bit suspisous when it comes to anything that's free and very cheap as it sounds like one of those evil Spectre plans for taking ove the world.

I know that I was on a service that is slightly slower then what I have now but about 2/3rds cheaper. Since I moved 3 blocks away they don't have a service that reaches that far. Kinda makes me wonder how different 3 blocks make. Oh well they lost me to their service and thats bad cause like I said it's cheaper and fast enough for what I do on here.

I hope you didn't drool over the equipment otherwise it could have been a shocking experience. Sorry for that awful joke there. You could be right, they may be other gings that I have to pay for which they haven't put in their ads but I will be checking that out soon. Only 1 other compnay, Bulldog, has 8 meg broadband, but you have to pay about £30 for , the phone calls and broadband and I think ditigital telly as well I think but not too sure about the digital channels. Bt is going over to 8 meg soon. Because of the Carphone Warehouse broadband going free and such, there may be a price war going on soon over broadband.

Originally posted by gatchgirl I know that I was on a service that is slightly slower then what I have now but about 2/3rds cheaper. Since I moved 3 blocks away they don't have a service that reaches that far. Kinda makes me wonder how different 3 blocks make. Oh well they lost me to their service and thats bad cause like I said it's cheaper and fast enough for what I do on here.

Most ISPs over in Britian cover most if not all of the country. BT covers the whole country obviously because it owns the phone line and therefore, everybody who uses the landlines must pay for the rental, whether they pay BT or other companies for phone calls. But 3 blocks? Where do you live? Twilight Zone? Weird or what.

I have some friends who wanted to stick with their ISP but move from dialup to ADSL. So they got BT to check their line and, despite being close to the exchange, BT said they were too far from it to have ADSL from the ISP they wanted. All the lines went out from the exchange in one direction and they happened to be at the end of the near-circle that took the lines back in the direction of the exchange again. However, BT insisted that they were not too far from the exchange to take BT's ADSL. So they generated a bit of publicity about it, and eventually got ADSL from the ISP they wanted. Apparently BT had been doing that to a lot of people.

Never had any trouble from Supanet (my ISP).

BT said that to us, BT sucks the lying cheating feckers.

REally messing up hope this one is deleated

My friends and I like to say that I live at the center of the universe. I live actually in a village (don't have much of anything here) and we are approximatly 10-12 miles away from any city around us. When I moved here 14 years ago it wasn't too bad, except that I'll always be an outsider too the town people. Makes it nice though cause they don't want to bug me all the time. Now it seems like the county law enforcment has deceided to make it their home. Guess they thought we were having too much fun. This is a dry villiage so you have to drive the 10-12 miles to get anything to help "clear" your mind and it does feel like the twilight zone sometimes.

Originally posted by Metaliant But 3 blocks? Where do you live? Twilight Zone? Weird or what. I was trying to quote this on my last post but I messed up.

How did you mess up?

Originally posted by Cep BT said that to us, BT sucks the lying cheating feckers.

My supervisor uses BT Broadband and likes it.

Originally posted by gatchgirl Originally posted by Metaliant But 3 blocks? Where do you live? Twilight Zone? Weird or what. I was trying to quote this on my last post but I messed up.

I think she means that she didn't click onto the Quote thinky Cep.

Originally posted by Metaliant

Originally posted by Cep BT said that to us, BT sucks the lying cheating feckers.

My supervisor uses BT Broadband and likes it.

I'm sure BT Broadband is wonderful, as long as BT Broadband is what you want. If you want broadband down your phone line from another ISP but BT say you can't have it, you can only have theirs and it costs more, then that's not so good.

I have been lucky so far that BT hasn't done anything like that to me but they are bastards when they do that to people.

If your paying line rental on your phoneline, you may find that your actually paying for a full line and getting only 1/4 of it, since they use DACS to split your line and share it with other people to reduce their costs.

Doesn't everybody pay line rental on landlines? This iu sssooooo

Yes but thats not what I mean. You are paying for a line but your not actually getting it, your sharing the same line connection with perhaps several other houses. Which means you should only really be paying for your share of the line not the entire line rental itself. Your service is in effect cut into fractions.

I do agree Cep, why should I pay full price for something when I'm only getting a fraction of the speed that I should get. By the way Metaliant was correct on what I was refering too earlier (on messing up)

Originally posted by Cep Yes but thats not what I mean. You are paying for a line but your not actually getting it, your sharing the same line connection with perhaps several other houses. Which means you should only really be paying for your share of the line not the entire line rental itself. Your service is in effect cut into fractions.

Ah right, now that clear that up. Your are right and it's a stupid way to do it.

My supervisor saw an ad today in The Metro, a free neewspaper which is very good and funny, for a company giving broadband at 24 Meg at £24.99. Does everybody think what I am thinking.

Here's the website for the company who's offering 24 Meg broadband. http://www.bethere.co.uk/

LOL I love their policy on usage, it basically doesn't tell you anything of what they consider a violation of the unlimited service.

We've got DSL landline to the house, from Bell Canada. Works well enough. The competion for DSL is either another cable, run by the cable company, or smaller companies that resell you the Bell Canada product. In the house, we're using wires, but the modem has wireless built in, so we could use wireless to go from the modem to the computers. But, I prefer wires for the banking stuff and hubby prefers them for gaming. So, the new place will have lots of holes for wires. Gotta love that cheapo basement ceiling that we know we'll replace. Cricket

Is your house like Swiss cheese then?