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As posted on the BOTP list, they also have a video clip up featuring the voices of Director Anderson and Nambu. It's on the main ADV page, in the "featured title" list. http://www.advfilms.com/

Can't hardly wait for a region 4 to be produced now.......or do i try and find a cheap region free player.... Personally i would prefer the subbed to the dubbed, there's just something about hearing the original voices and the emotion in them, even if i can't understand what they are saying.

I wouldn't hold my breath for this to come out on region 4. I very much doubt it'll ever come out on region 2 either. I love my region free player...

bugger well i'll still have to hope though.

Just go grab a cheapo multi region dvd player luv

ANOTHER crappy Sentai show??? Who do they think we are? Japanese??

yeah..........but that leads to buying another tv as well.......just don't have the space here. Otherwise i just have to put it away after i've finished with it

I'm definitely buying these discs, but until I have all 105 eps in my hands, I won't consider parting with my LD set. I have great fear of the dubs. I have great fear of dubs in general. I have great fear that, with all the censorship of what is acceptable to do/say on TV, that the scripts will be completely cheese. If they don't do it properly (as in, make it an adult show like it really was), I'm going to lock myself in my room with all my Gatchaman stuff and stay there till Hollywood learns not to bastardize great foreign contributions to entertainment. Katse

It makes it sound really dull. And your right Katse, I am in fear, especialy for Casshern, I dont want to know what Hollywood will do to him.

i'd just want to see it with subs.....As long as they are accurate and one hopes that being an official release it won't be played with too much. I like the original voices from what i have heard of one episode that came as a bonus with my Battle of the Planets set.

Originally posted by Berg Katse I'm definitely buying these discs, but until I have all 105 eps in my hands, I won't consider parting with my LD set. I have great fear of the dubs. I have great fear of dubs in general. I have great fear that, with all the censorship of what is acceptable to do/say on TV, that the scripts will be completely cheese. If they don't do it properly (as in, make it an adult show like it really was), I'm going to lock myself in my room with all my Gatchaman stuff and stay there till Hollywood learns not to bastardize great foreign contributions to entertainment. Katse

Good plan, but since I do not have any other versions, I may go ahead and buy this version. I did not know any better at the time, but now feel cheated at how watered down BOTP was compared to Gatchaman. Still, BOTP proved more intense and exciting than the rest of the cartoons and TV programs around at the time.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Can someone please tell me what the **** is going on. I am so confused (don't worry that's normal) and my head hurts from thinking. But enough of that, can someone tell me if the Gatchaman DVDs are coming out in Region 2 now or will be and if will be then when and can I get them from a shop and not online as I can't, blah, blah, blah. Right I will go away and have a lie down.

I personally doubt they'll be coming out on region 2 unless the US sales go particularly well. However, multi-region DVD players are wonderful things.

Poo.

So June the 14th has come and gone...what's been happening? Are they on sale now? which region are they? have there been any reviews on them yet?? huh? huh? Huh?

The mailing list has all the info. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BotP/ Not sure which post, but Tatsunokofan and Jason Hofius have the most reliable info.

This is a review of a pre-release version. Oh my... http://www.dvdvisionjapan.com/gatcha1.html

This one's not so bad - also of the pre-release variety though http://dubreview.com/readnews.php?newsid=000119&PHPSESSID=3109e934baf7f77f495a2886416f0468

Damn Damn Damn. I Knew it was too good to be true. Let me ask this dumb question then going by this quote from the first link: " Comparing the ADR script to Rhino's translation, the writing for Gatchaman is spot on. You will never find a more faithful dub than the work done by Monica Rial and Cyndi Williams" If THATS the case , why oh why cant it be SUBBED with the original Japanese voice actors? Like I said probable a dumb question, but with everything else going for it, esp the superb visual quality of this new DVD with every original frame shown, why cant we have the thing subbed according the writing script of Monica Rial and Cyndi Williams? will we EVER get such a wish fullfilled, with no bad dubbing , Id prefer a faithful subbed version any day!

Pretty sure there are subs in the ADV release. Wendy Dinsmore was going to check them out. And, yeah, I prefer subbed. I like hearing what the original director wanted. Question, though. Is it my limitted exposure, or do/did Japanese women consider those high voices desirable?

Good question. Well I know it DOESNT work for me! I still cringe and twitch in memory of my first exposure to the Japanese version of Dragon Ball Z., and Goku's high pitched girly squeal!

Poo and double poo.

I'm sure it will sell well in America and it has be sold on Region 2 for the U.K fans where Gatchaman very popular there.

"Better be or else......." Shakes fist at Region 1.

Would you believe Im not tempted yet?

All's not lost then, if its subbed!! * fingers crossed fervently praying for it to be so!!* As for the multiregion thing, Seems like most of you are in UK....START NETWORKING!! Get some kind of mini-viewing party thang happening with anyone who DOES happen to have a multi-region player in your area! If all else fails, spend the thousands to get your butts Down Under, bring ADV, and come watch it at my place! (Hang on, Ill probably turn the whole thing into a drinking game party viewing, and we'll be seriously drunk by episode 105! *HICGRIN*

*sigh* for those poor people who have not heard of multiregion players

Originally posted by imaqtz All's not lost then, if its subbed!! * fingers crossed fervently praying for it to be so!!* As for the multiregion thing, Seems like most of you are in UK....START NETWORKING!! Get some kind of mini-viewing party thang happening with anyone who DOES happen to have a multi-region player in your area! If all else fails, spend the thousands to get your butts Down Under, bring ADV, and come watch it at my place! (Hang on, Ill probably turn the whole thing into a drinking game party viewing, and we'll be seriously drunk by episode 105! *HICGRIN*

I have found out that I can play Region 1 on my PC. So that's sorted but I can't buy any DVDs on Amazon as I don't have 1) An American bank account and therefore can't send a cheque (bastards) and 2) Don't and can't use a credit card/my cash card on the net (bastards). So hopefully they will release it on Region 2 (He says on his knees prayin'). So I will come to your place and out drink everybody. Hic. - you. - me.

This DVD set moves to the top of things to get once I pay my bills list!

Originally posted by Metaliant I have found out that I can play Region 1 on my PC. So that's sorted but I can't buy any DVDs on Amazon as I don't have 1) An American bank account and therefore can't send a cheque (bastards) and 2) Don't and can't use a credit card/my cash card on the net (bastards). So hopefully they will release it on Region 2 (He says on his knees prayin'). So I will come to your place and out drink everybody. Hic. - you. - me.

Watch out for region codes on your PC's dvd drive. You may find that you are limited in the number of times you can change region code - typically it's limited to 5 times and the older fixes like DVDgenie just don't work any more.

Hey Imi about that drink....You realise this is now a firm arrangement so as soon as I am in Aus will be expecting to visit

I have a multi region player too. But my latest `wants` is part 2 and 3 of the LotR...I got 1 for a quid at the car boot on sunday and loved it.

I have found out that I can play Region 1 on my PC. So that's sorted but I can't buy any DVDs on Amazon as I don't have 1) An American bank account and therefore can't send a cheque (bastards) and 2) Don't and can't use a credit card/my cash card on the net (bastards).

Same here, and also a dollar here in Egypt is about 8 Egyptian pounds or more and has really increased the past few years.

Originally posted by meridianday

Originally posted by Metaliant I have found out that I can play Region 1 on my PC. So that's sorted but I can't buy any DVDs on Amazon as I don't have 1) An American bank account and therefore can't send a cheque (bastards) and 2) Don't and can't use a credit card/my cash card on the net (bastards). So hopefully they will release it on Region 2 (He says on his knees prayin'). So I will come to your place and out drink everybody. Hic. - you. - me.

Watch out for region codes on your PC's dvd drive. You may find that you are limited in the number of times you can change region code - typically it's limited to 5 times and the older fixes like DVDgenie just don't work any more.

I have found that I have 4 more times to change the region on my PC but I still can't buy any Region 1 DVDs on Amazon as I said so I have to hope and wait for it to come to Region 2 and they are still bastards.

Just to clarify for members of the board, ADV's GATCHAMAN DVDs, like their other anime releases, contain six episodes per disc -- both subbed and dubbed. As for the fear that they will not make it through all 105 episodes... since they paid for the rights to license all 105, they would be wasting money *not* putting them all out. Rhino dropped the ball, but ADV won't. But, we need to get out there and help ADV to let people know the series is out. If the sales are good, I would hope that they would get GATCH II and GATCH FIGHTER... but, I am completely happy with the original series only. Peace, August henshinonline.com

I have read all about the 3 orignal series, and I think the first one is better by the sounds of it.

Thanks for the info August

ok lets get this straight. Its subbed as well as dubbed. Its region 1 but can be played on multi region dvd players OR on PC's , provided we are aware of the limited times we can change regions on PC. And each DVD contains about 5- 6 episodes. (damn damn damn) And from the reviews on http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00096S3OU/ref=pm_dp_ln_d_3/002-6969795-0944816?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846 its still worth watching, esp in its uncut original form, despite the dubious dubbing efforts of new voice actors. Im sold! Gonna try and see if any comic stores around here have ordered it yet, before I try out Amazon. Fingers crossed .

And yes FB baby, consider it a firm arrangement! LOL! As for Metaliant or any others, Id like to see anyone TRY to drink me under the table! *Grin*

The one other thing being that it's NTSC, so if you're in a PAL region (and is Egypt SECAM?) your TV must be capable of dealing with an NTSC signal. NTSC really shouldn't be an issue if you're watching it on your PC though.

If you do Amazon, then you will need to order with either an American bank account or a credit card and I don't know if you Aussies can sell Region 1 DVDs. In the UK, we can order them from Amazon but can't buy them from shops (fuck), so hopefully they will do Region 2 very soon, he says rossing all 10 fingers and toes.

Originally posted by imaqtz And yes FB baby, consider it a firm arrangement! LOL! As for Metaliant or any others, Id like to see anyone TRY to drink me under the table! *Grin*

Anytime, any pub, almost any beer.

My drinking motto is, I don't have a drinking problem. I drink. I fall down. No problem.

LOL Metaliant, Yep see how that could not be a problem. Imi, How about I buy you a drink next year?

I've just read a review of both Vol. 1 and 2 from Anime Jump and let me say the reviewer like the DVD, he gave it a 5 star rate (WOW!) Check out his review: http://www.animejump.com/index.php?module=prodreviews&func=showcontent&id=648

Originally posted by Firebird LOL Metaliant, Yep see how that could not be a problem. Imi, How about I buy you a drink next year?

Actually, that's just a motto. I can't fall down as I just drink, drink, drink, drink, drink, etc. I don't have blood, just 100% proof beer. Hic

Okay dokey. I have managed to buy what I thought was Volume 1 but turned out it was the OAV disc. I tried again and bought Volumes 1 and 2. I have only watched them in Japanese with subbs and thought it was brilliant and the plotlines make more sense than BOTP (I can't believe I am dissing my favourite cartoon) and no 7 Zark 7, Yippee. Can't wait until Volume 3.

Oh, I didnt find them `quite` that good.

I hope you aren't saying that 7 Zark 7 was the best charactor out of BOTP?

No. Its just Im not used to Gatch in English, thats all. And the cheesy slang...was the 70s that bad??

I haven't seen it in the dubbed version vet. I have only seen it in the subbed version. In fact I am glad as I have always hated 7 Zark 7.

Yes, he didnt use stellar terms like `Roger doger`....

I reckon he made words up. When we was explaining by which circuits, metals, computer progames, etc, it just sounded extremely stupid. Also in one episode, apparently he found a planet which was populated by the native species, which just happened to be human and was allowed to name it even though it had already be named by the native population. Didn't make sense. Also if he can see what's going on everywhere, then why do they need Susan at all and how come he doesn't see every single Spectrum mecha arriving on Earth and other planets? Also, how come he needs permisson to go on leave by Mark?

My view is that Botp is a propaganda show for the kiddies. Heaven knows what G Force `really` get up to.

Who's progaganda, American or Japanese? As for what G Force "really" gets up to, here's my guesses. 1) Mark and Princess are doing it as much as they can. 2) Tiny is eating as many "spaceburgers" as possible. 3) Keyop goes to speech thearopist. 4) Jason races around with Specturm's androids. 5) Anderson properly swaps his jacket with a cardigan, smokes a pipe and watches the Discovery channel.

Andersons propaganda. Your probably right on what they are doing though. Ill have to expand more than this

[FONT=times new roman]I [B][i]should[/i][/B] go and purchase the Gatchaman DVDs as soon as I can.[/FONT]

I know. I'm ashamed of myself. Ah! I'll get them come next paycheck or two. There, shame gone.

I was given the first set by a kind fan. I cant afford the rest either.

I don't think I got enough money now for anything after the washing machine and shower decided to break.

I am already a couple sets behind and no room in my budget in sight yet. I'll work it out somehow though.

I just wish I can buy them on Amazon.co.uk soon ortherwise I will go ga ga.

I bought the first two sets without having much of an idea as to what I was getting into. I had seen BOTP in the early 80's but only knew of Gatch being the Japan version. I am now waiting patiently for next weekend when I can purchase the 6th installment. Maybe if I click my heal together it will get here sooner.

I think I have got everyone up to Volume 10 and still waiting for the next volumes and enjoying it as much as BOTP which I bought at the first moment of see them.

I so know the feeling. Both are good in there own right and Gatch helps me understand BOTP more, as far as time line is concerned.

True, very true and at least Ken's father died only once and not 3 or 4 times when Ken was a amall child and at least in Gatchamn, died once unlike BOTP where Red Impulse actually lived again after dying to save the planet.

I think that was so the children in the US wouldn't see death on tv. Makes it a lot more interesting with the violence and death on the Gatch version.

Yes it was and there's one bit on http://www.vacuform.com/Gatchaman/GatchMain.htm website I read which is painfully funny. I have posted it in one of the other threads but will do it here just for you Gatchgirl. BOTP was geared towards a young crowd; 7-Zark-7 was, in retrospect, the parental voice. He was also the worrier, the egomaniac, and the biggest control freak I've ever seen in my life. He reassured his watchers that all was well and good among the team members. And that nobody died in that surprise attack by Spectra on that city of 5 billion. (Right. Have you ever seen an evacuation of a city of 500? I rest my case.) And that those UN fighters they sent in to ward off Spectra were really just robots. (Fascinating that when the UN succeeded, humans were flying; when the UN crashed and burned, robots were flying. Seems to me that they should've just sent humans all the time.) Unfortunately, this is exasperating for the adult watcher. At the end of most episodes (for the 10th time), he reassured us that nobody died, or that all suffering was minimized. Even when Jason starts suffering from the brain damage that will kill him (these episodes were never translated), Zark reassures us that the numbness, dizziness, double vision, splitting headaches, and nightmares were all inconsequential. Of course Jason would be fine. Especially if he'd have a little better attitude about life. This being the pervasive pattern of the show, it's a good thing the last few episodes were never translated. If they had been, Zark would have had a really tough time explaining that everything was going to be okay: First of all, how would he have explained that Zoltar wasn't really a brother and a sister, Zoltar and Mala, but one person, Zoltar the Hermaphrodite? It's sort of the Michael Jackson/Janet Jackson question all over again: Zark: "Okay, kids, it turns out that Zoltar has a really serious problem none of us knew about. But that's okay. Everything will be okay." And when Jason discovered that he couldn't even stand up straight? Zark: "Really, kids, it was just a really bad migraine. Everything will be okay." And then Zoltar beats the living hell out of Jason, shoots him in the head thirty or forty times for good measure: Zark: "Kids, there wasn't any blood. That means they missed. Really. All forty times." Zoltar is having so much fun beating Jason that he figures he'll drug him up, keep him alive a bit longer, and do it some more: Zark: "Kids, sadism such as this is the result of a bad childhood. We need to feel sorry for him. And don't worry, everything will be okay." And then Jason dies. Zark: "Hey kids, don't worry, everything will be...oh, s**t." And then Katse commits suicide, screaming "Die, die, everyone die!" Zark jumps in after him. And you thought nobody ever died in this show...

I have been to that site before but thanks for giving me the connection too it. I loved some of your Zark impressions, I could hear him saying just about every single one. I know the first time I watched a Gatch episode I started laughing my a** off because of some of the foul language that they used. It made it even all the more better. I always thought that it was strange that no one ever died or that they were even hurt in this big war going on. I think the government today still tries to keep the US hidden from the truth in any scene, but thats a whole other topic that I won't go into in this thread. Gatch does rock more in the reality of the whole cartoon. BOTP was better in some of the other ways.

The only problems I had with BOTP are :- Even although ciities are destroyed, everybody escapes. When the UN loses, it loses robot planes, subs, etc but when the UN wins, it's human pilots, sailors, etc The technobabble is just plain stupid and doesn't sound anything like that opeople would actually say unlike Star Trek (I was watching Star Trek in repeats at the time). When they cut to 7 Zark 7, that just annoys me, even then, and how come in the Recreation Room, Mark and Jason are still playing the exact same table tennis match, Princess and Keyop are still playing the exact tune. With Tiny, that wasn't much surprise though. And the fact that Mark's father kept dying and coming back to alive which wasn't even explained at in the series. But despite all this, I still love BOTP and I know it's a cartoon remade for American kids and therefore tame compared with Gatchaman and today's cartoons and CGI type cartoons but still, is it me or is 7 Zark 7 even more annoying?

So BOTP is an american remake of Gatchaman? Did they chop up the original and then past back together a slightly longer version? They did that with Starfleet X Bomber. I bought the American version films and they were just cut and pasted versions of the series. It was diabolical, it was as if whoever was editing the series into a film was taking all the action bits and pasting them one after the other. One minute there was a space battle, the next minute they are on a planet invasion, the next they were in space again but trapped in a black hole, the next minute they where on a planet again fighting the bots. It was a joke.

Yes BOTP is a remake of Gatchaman. BAsically they got rid of all of the violence and swearing as it was a kids show and what I can understand it, in the 70s that was extremely bad in a kids cartoon, which is why nobody got killed and Mark's father died about 4/5 times and keeps coming back to alive and Keyop made those silly noises, to disguise the fact that the orignal was swearing at times. Anyway, instead they made the typical (at the time) shite American cartoon stuff with the Recreation Room and 7 Zark 7, I think because this was the late 70s, they made the stuff because of Star Wars.

Yep, that'd be G-Force. A much closer version to Gatch, but with small cuts for violence. So, for example, you'll not catch Ace or Dirk slapping Aggie. But there are all these other strange cuts because all the episodes needed to be the same length, so in most of the episodes it's something perfectly harmless that's been removed. Unfortunately G-Force only covers 85 episodes.

G-Force Guardians of Space was made from Gactchaman II and Gatchaman Fighter. Another reason the overall plot of BOTP doesn't make sense is that the episodes weren't "converted" in in oder. Tatsunoko sent them over a couple at a time. Sandy Frank's team sent them out to the stations in a "Production" order (often called the Hofius Order, as Jason Hofius made it famous). The "extra" sequences, especially Zark and Rover, make more sense in this sequence, but the stations tended to stir them up yet again. Rhino, and I think all the other current releases, are putting them on the disks in Gatch order.

Eagle Riders was made from Gatch 2 and Gatch F. G-Force was from Gatch 1 and included most of the same episodes as BOTP. The australian BOTP DVDs were in yet another order, I think. Or perhaps they were in the suggested broadcast order. I know the aussies were confused by them.

Eeps, the woman is right. Cricket refrains from doing anything requiring alertness for the rest of the day.

In which order are the British BOTP DVDs?

I'm not sure on any order that they go in. I did get a 100+ page book on BOTP that had the order in which it was shown in it along with the # for the corresponding Gatch episode. The Americans did show it in a weird sequence.

I will investigate this myself.

The english BOTP dvds (playback) are in Gatch order.

Thank god, you had me worried there for a second.

I think I'll gloat here and take a few moments to say... I have all six volumes and I'm loving every minute of it! HA! HA!

So have I now and will be watching Volume 12 over the weekend.

LOL thanks for the insight Ruthie

And in 18 more days the 7th volume will be released. I think I may have to call in that day or drive the hour drive right after work. Don't want to miss out on those.

The Australian BotP DVD's (there were 5 boxed sets, with 17 episodes in each box) were in the Sandy Frank running order - where Rat Bastard didn't come back after her died in "The Sky is Falling". Actually, the SF running order makes all the continuity problems with BotP vanish - its only watching them in the Gatch order where that happens.

I wonder if thats where my running order comes from in my BOTP book from Tommorows World. It doesn't match the order thats on the 85 complete box series! Had me wondering about the reason why for awhile.

This is what was on the Conway tapes that Zoltar was so desparate to get hold of. The correct running order Now we know

It took him long enough to think of that.

I like that response from Ronin. Kinda like the "how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop" quote.

I have Collector's Boxes 1-4 of Gatchaman now I just love them. Can't wait to get the other Collector's Boxes out, especially the one featuring Katse!