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I had to wipe my eyes at the end of this ... I wonder how Joe would react to meeting Dr. Raphael in this world at the end of series 1. Might not be good!!!

Man, that was intense! Poor Joe.

Joe has no luck whatsoever

I just wanted to reach out and take Joe into my arms! He seems to have been born with a bullseye on his heart.

OMG...so sad! I was really hoping that Joe would get a happy ending this time, but then, that wouldn't seem likely for The Condor. He really is the Charlie Brown of the ninja team, isn't he? (Sorry, I've been watching the Peanuts Christmas special lately- teehee)

I also liked Ken's reactions and how he tried to handle it. None of them has a great time when it comes to their families, do they? :/

Wow, Joe's really not having a good time this Christmas season. But it was nice to see that even though they disagree and fight, there is a deeper bond between Ken & Joe that comes out when things get serious. Hopefully next year will be kinder to Joe.

Originally posted by mylari Wow, Joe's really not having a good time this Christmas season. But it was nice to see that even though they disagree and fight, there is a deeper bond between Ken & Joe that comes out when things get serious. Hopefully next year will be kinder to Joe.

Doubtful.

Poor Joe. That would be so cruel. At least his father had enough control to warn them.

Oh, that's rough... So many things guaranteed to hit Joe hard -his "dead" father, more Galactor treachery, and cyborgs. I think that Joe is marked for doom pretty early in the first series -all the dying girlfriends, the wounds -old and new. It's his fate.

I'm wondering if Becky wrote this one

I'm wondering that, too, KT.

I'll never tell...

This certainly is a tragic story for Joe, but as others have pointed out, that's just part of his life, his persona, the things that make him who he is. Interesting that we have had a fic where Joe's mother is alive, where his father is alive, and where he recalls part of his childhood. What is in the water making us all think of Condor pasts?

Originally posted by Transmute Jun What is in the water making us all think of Condor pasts?

Hmm...maybe it's because we haven't seen much of TranSMUT Jun this past year?

Poor Joe! That was so sad! A part of me wonders whether Ken would've done the same if Red Impulse was the cyborg. And I liked the idea of turning the concept of Joe as a cyborg on its head and using it for his father. Plus that dream, in the beginning of the fic...

Funny thing - I actually had a conversation recently where the idea of cyborg Red Impulse came up... At some point I may have to see if I can get a plot bunny to form from it. So far it's more of a vague niggle than a whole bunny though...