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Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 20 Oct 2013 09:27
Thank you for your detailed and honest review, LW
it is really helpful to have 'one of us' see the movie and give their honest opinion about it.
It's disappointing that you were unhappy with the flow and story of the movie, yet I can also see how you appreciated the parts that were satisfying. Unfortunately, if this is what a true fan sees, I can understand why the movie didn't do well in Japan. It makes me wonder what they were doing, releasing the movie with rushed editing and poor special effects.
I didn't realize that Joe was called George in this movie. I'm guessing that's a reference to 'Giorgio'?
I love that you were able to find fellow Gatchaman fans in your area who were all discussing the movie! And how funny that Crowds brought up some controversy!
I still want to see this movie, but now I know what to expect. Thank you.
it is really helpful to have 'one of us' see the movie and give their honest opinion about it.
It's disappointing that you were unhappy with the flow and story of the movie, yet I can also see how you appreciated the parts that were satisfying. Unfortunately, if this is what a true fan sees, I can understand why the movie didn't do well in Japan. It makes me wonder what they were doing, releasing the movie with rushed editing and poor special effects.
I didn't realize that Joe was called George in this movie. I'm guessing that's a reference to 'Giorgio'?
I love that you were able to find fellow Gatchaman fans in your area who were all discussing the movie! And how funny that Crowds brought up some controversy!
I still want to see this movie, but now I know what to expect. Thank you.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 20 Oct 2013 10:54
A big THANK YOU from me, too, LW! That's an awesome and detailed review of yours, lending us your eyes for us to see! Your comments are very close to what I read in the following review, which link I'm going to try to attach (I hope the link works!), over drama, sloppy special effects and all.
http://psycho-drama.com/index.php/casting-news/690-gatchaman-6th-spot-boxoffice
In the attached review, the possibility of a sequel is also mentioned, so you're spot on on that, too! Like TJ said, I still wish to watch the movie, hopefully in an understandable language, some day!
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 20 Oct 2013 11:05
LW, you are amazing! Thank you for posting this, it's the best and most complete review I've read of the movie!
Now I just have to wait for it to come to Brussels...
ElectricWhite
Gatchamaniac
posted 20 Oct 2013 11:06
Thanks, LW, for being our undercover agent! I'm interested in seeing it, though I hope I don't get annoyed at all the "borrowing" from other shows!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 20 Oct 2013 11:38
Thanks for the review, LW.
They allowed George to have a defeatist attitude? That is sooooo not Joe.
Since there was a sense there could be a sequel, then I assume Gatchaman didn't win the war. If Ken and George had such high numbers, does that mean other receptors could be introduced in a sequel?
The bar codes on their necks - so they can never escape their responsibility? But it also cracks me up - go to the store, look them over, grab the one you want (he's the cutest!) and pay at the cash register.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 20 Oct 2013 11:41
You have to remember that a lot of those shows borrowed from Gatchaman to being with! Power Rangers, especially, has a direct link in origin to Gatchaman... without Gatchaman, there would be no Power Rangers.
So it's difficult to say that Gatchaman was copying those things, when they were originally copying Gatchaman!
Originally posted by Becky Rock But it also cracks me up - go to the store, look them over, grab the one you want (he's the cutest!) and pay at the cash register.Love it Becky!
Originally posted by Transmute Jun You have to remember that a lot of those shows borrowed from Gatchaman to being with! Power Rangers, especially, has a direct link in origin to Gatchaman... without Gatchaman, there would be no Power Rangers. So it's difficult to say that Gatchaman was copying those things, when they were originally copying Gatchaman!I agree with you, TJ. But when it comes to shows that were around and had developed concepts long before Gatchaman, I must take exception. (Doctor Who, for instance, premiered the day after President Kennedy was assassinated, and it was during the second ep that the Cybermen -- cybernetic beings that could only be defeated with gold dust -- were introduced.) LW -- BTW, cool avatar....though I'm not sure I'd want to wake up and find THAT puppy at the foot of my bed!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 20 Oct 2013 14:13
Originally posted by ElectricWhite I agree with you, TJ. But when it comes to shows that were around and had developed concepts long before Gatchaman, I must take exception.Fair enough. Obviously not all of it originated with Gatchaman. But not all of it is 'ripped off'.
ElectricWhite
Gatchamaniac
posted 20 Oct 2013 15:09
Originally posted by Transmute JunI didn't mean to come off sounding as if I thought "borrowing" and "ripping off" were one and the same. There are no copyrights on ideas , after all. I just think it's a big disservice to the audience if they are saying "That's from Star Trek" or "I saw that on Buffy the Vampire Slayer" instead of getting into the story.Originally posted by ElectricWhite I agree with you, TJ. But when it comes to shows that were around and had developed concepts long before Gatchaman, I must take exception.Fair enough. Obviously not all of it originated with Gatchaman. But not all of it is 'ripped off'.
Thanks, LW! Still so excited that one of us actually got to see it (warts and all).
Me too. (I said it would be dire, did I not?)
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 21 Oct 2013 14:13
LW, thank you for posting your honest opinion.
I am still looking forward to seeing it, when it eventually makes it to DVD.
Thanks LW, I had my doubts as well, as it seemed to be a rushed-put together job, rather than a well thought out premise...
Sigh, just makes all the bits that are sneaking out about the Imagi film just seem that much more intriguing.
Thank you, LW -it's great to have your opinion!
Originally posted by Transmute Jun I still want to see this movie, but now I know what to expect.Sounds like there's no Red Impulse. Unless that's for the sequel.
Originally posted by Littlewolf throughout the movie the characters make reference to wanting a normal life or giving up there childhood for training and some team infighting. It seems the there is a large amount of orphans due to the war
Originally posted by k2p2 just makes all the bits that are sneaking out about the Imagi film just seem that much more intriguing.Yes, I would like to have seen the final version of what Imagi had planned. Though them having Joe be a sort of "bad boy" street thug instead of a trained Ninja didn't sit so well with me -that might be one thing that I'll like better with Nikkatsu's version.
Originally posted by lborgia88 Yes, I would like to have seen the final version of what Imagi had planned. Though them having Joe be a sort of "bad boy" street thug instead of a trained Ninja didn't sit so well with me -that might be one thing that I'll like better with Nikkatsu's version.Well, that is how Joe started out, as we learn when he meets up with Alan on BC Island.
True, but he would have only have been 8 or 9 at the most then -perhaps more a "bad boy Joe" in his mind than in reality. I'd like to think that Dr. Nambu proceeded to make him do his schoolwork, eat his veggies, go to bed on time, learn martial arts etc -though he might not have always had an easy time of it!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 26 Oct 2013 15:37
A lot of kids get into trouble before a caring adult helps them channel the aggression elsewhere.
I forgot to ask - did they show any of their vehicles, LW?
Exactly, but in this alternate version it sounds like Joe isn't recruited until he's an adult or at least a late teen, so it tracks that he's more thug-like and not trained. I guess that I try to be liberal in how I look at adaptations of the original. I look for the alternate universe consistency, maybe?
Then I get all fussy about how Ken looks, so I'm a total hypocrite, heh heh.
Then I get all fussy about how Ken looks, so I'm a total hypocrite, heh heh.
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