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Very interesting information there LW. Although I do tend to want to disagree with some of the characterizations you mentioned. Or at least switch some of them to reflect the Eagle and Condor I think of.

Originally posted by clouddancer Very interesting information there LW. Although I do tend to want to disagree with some of the characterizations you mentioned. Or at least switch some of them to reflect the Eagle and Condor I think of.

I agree. To flip flop the definitions would be more accurate, but still not quite true to either.

I liked seeing the ones that would load for me, about three of them would not though. Muses do come in many different forms

Yes..... true about some of the descriptions,...but then I had to stop and re-think, our Eagle and Condor are only 30 odd years old, this prophecy has been around for several hundred yers. were our Gatchaman Eagle and the condor based on the prophecy or is it just a coincidence? Is spectra a representation of the damage we are doing to the planet? If I has a paranoid personality I would say it was a global conspiracy and someone has been trying to warn us for year, using childrens cartoon and anime. LW throws herself on the floor " why? why wasn't I listening?"

So cool! I now need fic based on this, even if the characterizations don't exactly match (fic can just focus on the "two different paths" part). I also love that Condors are vultures, connected with death. I need people to write me a magical shapeshifter AU where they can turn into birds. (Okay, or I need to finish the one I started ....I get SO frustrated with writing though!!)

Lunulet, I have always loved that idea of being able to shapeshift (or form shift) as well. So much so that in my AU Mark is actually able to. His Rigan ESP Power not only allows him to talk to animals, but also to change/shift in to them. Not just an Eagle but any animal. Of course unconsciously he prefers the Eagle form over others. I just wish I could find the time (and the lost muse) to get all my stories written for people to read.

Interesting find, LW! I agree that it doesn't quite match though... especially the 'feminine' part!

Try using the word "Sensual" instead of feminine

In other words, don't think of "feminine" as "effeminate". Here's an example of what's usually meant when things like this refer to the masculine and feminine aspects: Think about the main characters of the X-Files. Scully, with her highly analytical nature, represented the masculine aspect. Mulder, with his tendency to "follow his gut", no matter how outlandish the direction seemed to go, was more of the feminine aspect. I know this example might seem a bit strange (the guy representing the feminine and the gal representing the masculine), but, if you think about it, we all know people who are more analytical or more instinctual regardless of their gender.

And that idea EW, is why I feel the Eagle is more "feminine" than the Condor. Although the Eagle is the tactician there were times, I felt, he based or made a decision on a gut feeling .... which is where I then based the theory that he had some other sense, which I then decided was an ESP, in my AU. The Condor on the other hand tended to "react" to the situation at hand. Edited to add: Was thinking, is that tendency of the Condor to "react" what you are considering as the "feminine" aspect, EW?

Originally posted by clouddancer Was thinking, is that tendency of the Condor to "react" what you are considering as the "feminine" aspect, EW?

I think that could be part of it.

In English speaking worlds, we tend to thing of things as gender neutral unless they are a gendered species. However, in many other places where all nouns have gender it may not be so uncommon to think like this. Otherwise why would a school be feminine noun but books and desks masculine.

Ken/Mark definitely uses his intuition, but he's also very analytical, IMO. Joe/Jason tends to be more intuitive/gut-driven, but also can be analytical. I think it's a matter of which is the defining characteristic and which is the secondary? Though I admit if I'm thinking "feminine" and "masculine" I do tend to think of Ken as more of the feminine, but not because he's girly in any way to me. It's more that he's got a more gentle, compassionate nature despite his occasional tendency to haul off and hit people, and outside of when he seriously loses his temper.

Originally posted by ChrisWThough I admit if I'm thinking "feminine" and "masculine" I do tend to think of Ken as more of the feminine, but not because he's girly in any way to me. It's more that he's got a more gentle, compassionate nature despite his occasional tendency to haul off and hit people, and outside of when he seriously loses his temper.

Very well said. That has been my perception as well Chris.