Where: Gatchafanic Chat room--Writing Oasis. When: Mondays 8-9pm-ish GMT Why: Because talking about writing is almost as much fun as the actual process. Or at least I think so. Monday-Feb 27th discussion topic. Working with established characters.

Now I just have to figure out how many hours I am off from GMT... 8, I think? Huh, that's noon-1.... I'll see what I can do.

Originally posted by k2p2 Because talking about writing is almost as much fun as the actual process.

That or it proves we're all masochists.

Originally posted by amethyst

Originally posted by k2p2 Because talking about writing is almost as much fun as the actual process.

That or it proves we're all masochists.

It sounds more fun by the minute!

with all of us in one space at the same time, there won't be a dull moment, that's for sure!!

Nice idea! Sounds fun to me!

Originally posted by k2p2 Where: Gatchafanic Chat room--Writing Oasis. When: Mondays 8-9pm-ish GMT Why: Because talking about writing is almost as much fun as the actual process. Or at least I think so. Monday-Feb 27th discussion topic. Working with established characters.

Can't join you guys, I've got a language class at the time, but keep us posted about any conclusions! Great initiative, k2p2! Update: I just realised that I'm GMT +1, so technically I should be home by then, except next week when I'll be travelling. So hopefully I'll join you at the next discussion!

It's so refreshing to see so many who can figure out time zone differences! My brother's lived in Tennessee since 1995, and he still hasn't figured out that he's an hour behind me!

worldclock.org is a great help. I know a few places in Europe from when my brother goes over there, guess the rest, and look up what I need to know. I know that GMT is 8 hours ahead of PST. So would that make PST GMT-8? I have the states memorized for the most part because we have family in the mid-west, east coast 2 to 3 hours ahead of us. Now, in a few weeks, everything will be screwed up thanks to Daylight Savings Time, which starts at different times in different countries. The US is supposed to start on the same day, except for those places that have not adopted it. Mostly Mountain states for some reason, and parts of Arizona.

Originally posted by amethyst worldclock.org is a great help. I know a few places in Europe from when my brother goes over there, guess the rest, and look up what I need to know. I know that GMT is 8 hours ahead of PST. So would that make PST GMT-8? I have the states memorized for the most part because we have family in the mid-west, east coast 2 to 3 hours ahead of us. Now, in a few weeks, everything will be screwed up thanks to Daylight Savings Time, which starts at different times in different countries. The US is supposed to start on the same day, except for those places that have not adopted it. Mostly Mountain states for some reason, and parts of Arizona.

Yup, you're GMT -8. Be glad Indiana's not in the confusing mix anymore. It can be bad enough dealing with the line between the Eastern and Central Time Zones running down the middle of the state, but, until 2006, most (but not all) of the state didn't observe Daylight Saving Time. Ten counties (5 in Eastern, 5 in Central) observed. It was a real comedy routine when it came to explaining this to somebody new to the area during summer. "Indianapolis is an hour behind us." I'd say. "Oh, so they're Central?" "No, they just don't observe Daylight Savings." "What about Evansville?" "They're an hour behind us. They're Central, but observe Daylight Savings." "Okay. How about Bloomington?" "They're two hours behind us..."

Oh why can't they just leave the clocks alone?!!!!!

Originally posted by KT1972 Oh why can't they just leave the clocks alone?!!!!!

But if they weren't playing around with the clocks, what would they royally screw up instead?

Originally posted by KT1972 Oh why can't they just leave the clocks alone?!!!!!

Ask Ben Franklin, it was his idea. EW, I haven't been to Indiana, but what you described was exactly what I experienced when we drove through Arizona in 1985. I wonder if it is still the same or if they've finally got the whole state on one system. I can understand as a state choosing to follow DST or not, but not individual counties or communities. That just gets really confusing.

Originally posted by ElectricWhite

Originally posted by KT1972 Oh why can't they just leave the clocks alone?!!!!!

But if they weren't playing around with the clocks, what would they royally screw up instead?

Do you really want the list?

Originally posted by amethyst I can understand as a state choosing to follow DST or not, but not individual counties or communities. That just gets really confusing.

Before we finally got some legislators who'd listen to reason, the argument for allowing those ten counties to follow DST was that they were in the metropolitan areas of cities that followed DST (Cincinnati, Louisville, etc.) This way, there wouldn't be so much confusion for Hoosiers who worked in those cities. (I think we just had too many relatives of Dan Quayle in Indy.) Anyway, after voting in enough legislators with a multi-digit IQ, and with a united effort from virtually all the businesses based here, we finally got the whole state to follow DST.

Originally posted by ElectricWhite (I think we just had too many relatives of Dan Quayle in Indy.)

That's too funny! I did like the first Mr. Bush, but I gotta wonder what he was thinking when he choose Quayle as his VP.

Originally posted by ElectricWhiteAnyway, after voting in enough legislators with a multi-digit IQ, and with a united effort from virtually all the businesses based here, we finally got the whole state to follow DST.

Now, does that include the guy who recently declared Girl Scouts a radical organization. I gotta admit they are a bit more politically progressive than the Boy Scouts, but I hardly see them as radical, unless one considers anything that teaches young girls to become strong, independent women a radical organization. Damn, I'm still a registered Girl Scout (actually, registered with Boy Scouts, too, but that's beside the point), that means I'm a member of a radical organization. People who know me in real life would find that really funny.

Originally posted by amethyst Now, does that include the guy who recently declared Girl Scouts a radical organization. I gotta admit they are a bit more politically progressive than the Boy Scouts, but I hardly see them as radical, unless one considers anything that teaches young girls to become strong, independent women a radical organization. Damn, I'm still a registered Girl Scout (actually, registered with Boy Scouts, too, but that's beside the point), that means I'm a member of a radical organization. People who know me in real life would find that really funny.

My mother worked for the Girl Scouts her entire career, and I grew up in them. I think you've nailed it, that these jerks don't like anyone who teaches girls to believe in themselves and think for themselves. Funny, I just forwarded an article about this to my mom earlier for some mutual head-shaking.

Thats very funny, here the Scouting and Guiding movement is regarded as rather conservative. Particularly the people who are STILL Guides...All the real red blooded females became Scouts years back.

Originally posted by amethyst

Originally posted by ElectricWhite (I think we just had too many relatives of Dan Quayle in Indy.)

That's too funny! I did like the first Mr. Bush, but I gotta wonder what he was thinking when he choose Quayle as his VP.

Originally posted by ElectricWhiteAnyway, after voting in enough legislators with a multi-digit IQ, and with a united effort from virtually all the businesses based here, we finally got the whole state to follow DST.

Now, does that include the guy who recently declared Girl Scouts a radical organization.

Well, I think it was a pretty good idea to have Quayle as VP -- nobody would even think of hurting the president with Danny being next in line! And as for that schmuck from Fort Wayne who thinks the Girl Scouts of America is a militant recruitment arm of Planned Parenthood...well, he's a Tea Bagger ... oops, I meant Tea Party member... who was elected a relatively short time ago. (I couldn't help noticing that he looks an awful lot like a recruitment poster boy from Nazi Germany...)