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Last post by clouddancer 23 Jan 2012 16:47
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 8 Jan 2012 08:32
potential
Ooh, I like this. Now, I I need to stew on it a bit.
Thanks for posting, TJ!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 8 Jan 2012 10:33
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Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 8 Jan 2012 11:40
Very good use of the prompt, TJ. Not quite what June was thinking, but still something good.
I actually hate the word potential. They use it at work all the time. This person has potential, so let's give him/her every break and help. What always happens? They either kick the gift horse in the mouth or end up showing the 'potential' is all that it was.
I'll have to think on this one.
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 8 Jan 2012 11:48
Happy that Jun gets a birthday present from Ken, even if it's the Snack's birthday and it's his tab anyway! It's good to see things going well for her! Well done, TJ!
Oh, that was very sweet! I love the idea that she was going to feed the birds at the park- like in the beginning of one of the eps. I was expecting Ken to surprise her there. Glad he was thinking of her anyway!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 8 Jan 2012 13:13
I have to admit, I cheated a little on this... I came up with this idea last week when I was trying to write something for 'the game'. So this morning when I posted, I already had the story idea in mind and just wrote it up. I recognize that other people, who haven't been thinking about this for days, may take a little longer to come up with an idea!
Although... Becky, I completely understand what you're saying. Now, imagine that new 'workmate' with 'potential' is Zark... 
FWIW, no matter what your connotations around a word (good or bad) I'm sure you can come up with something interesting to write/draw!
LOL, Springie, I too was thinking of that episode where Ken and Jun fed birds at the park... of course, she was hoping he would join her... 
FWIW, no matter what your connotations around a word (good or bad) I'm sure you can come up with something interesting to write/draw!
LOL, Springie, I too was thinking of that episode where Ken and Jun fed birds at the park... of course, she was hoping he would join her...
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 8 Jan 2012 15:00
I really like that piece TJ. There is always potential, it may not be the potential YOU want but it is there.
Looking forward to seeing what others come up with. So far I don't have a clue. Nothing is pricking my muses yet, but who know what may come.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 8 Jan 2012 15:16
Don't worry, CD. There's no requirement to participate. 
But of course, if something does come to mind, I'd love to see what you come up with! 
But of course, if something does come to mind, I'd love to see what you come up with!
nothing coming yet, but then I thought the same last week, but managed in the end!!! Might be more productive in the morning, after a good nights sleep!!
I'll remember your little trick for when it's my turn, write the fic first then post a prompt relevent to it 
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 8 Jan 2012 15:39
Well, too be fair, I didn't *write* the fic until this morning. But I was thinking about it... 
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 8 Jan 2012 15:56
Zark as a workmate? Maybe I could run him over in the parking lot. Claim temporary insanity. His blinking lights told me to do it.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 8 Jan 2012 16:49
You have potential right there, Becky!!!! 
Here's what the prompt made me think of...it is supposed to be a young Joe- I tried to age him a bit from the pics I saw of him as a kid...
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 8 Jan 2012 18:00
I love it, Springie! That's Joe, all right.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 8 Jan 2012 18:12
That's awesome!!!!!!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 8 Jan 2012 19:08
That is great Springie. I am laughing about the state of the goons in the background. Especially the one with his leg sticking up in the air. Looks like someone has been practicing their ballet kicks.
Hmm, interesting word... This one will have to stew in my head until at least Tuesday though -we'll see what comes out then!
Great piece, TJ -always nice to see Ken get it right!
Love the younger version of Joe, Springie -spot on, and sure acting like a Condor-in-training!
Oh wow, that's fantastic Springie!!! Love it
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 9 Jan 2012 00:32
Love your piece, TJ! ... that's so sweet, and exactly what my ears always want to hear! Potential exists in everyone, no matter who the person would be ... only there to be unleashed! But, sometimes it comes out when the least expected, and that's when it makes an impact!
Springie ... that's an awesome idea, crying out the Condor! Love it!
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 9 Jan 2012 00:43
Fantastic, Springie! You are so talented!!!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 9 Jan 2012 07:36
Originally posted by lborgia88 Hmm, interesting word... This one will have to stew in my head until at least Tuesday though -we'll see what comes out then!Ooh, stewed LB... always a treat!
lets try this then!
The two of them watched with varying degrees of interest, as the young ninjas jumped and flew around the specially constructed gym. Their movements co-ordinated, yet seemingly independent of one another. Every action flawless.
A signal from the commander, unseen by the observers, had the team gliding to the ground, lining up before the two-way mirror. In perfect syncronicity they saluted, their right arms across their chests.
Nambu turned to his companion,
"So what do you think?"
the Red Impulse leader shrugged noncommittally.
"I suppose they show potential.." he said
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 10 Jan 2012 12:29
From RI, that's high praise! But I have to wonder if he has his eye on any one of them in particular...
A great snapshot, KT!
A great snapshot, KT!
TJ 
Glad I was finally able to come up with something!!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Jan 2012 14:47
KT, that is great ... and you know what ... I think it has suddenly sent a spark flying through my mind .... maybe I will be able to make a post after all .... maybe. The only problem is, what I am thinking of maybe something I have already written not something new.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 10 Jan 2012 15:32
CD, as long as it gets you thinking, that's what's important!!!!!!
I agree with KT, Go for it!!!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Jan 2012 16:26
Very good, KT. This one isn't working for me yet.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 10 Jan 2012 17:55
Oh. come on, Becky, you know it has potential....
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Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Jan 2012 18:55
CD, that was well worth the wait! You told so much in so little words. I could see this as being part of a much larger fic.
Cronus being negative is no surprise. It was good to see Anderson being positive.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 10 Jan 2012 19:57
CD, that is so powerful! I can see how painful this was to write, but it is emotional and tells the story well. 
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Jan 2012 20:06
Originally posted by Becky Rock CD, that was well worth the wait! You told so much in so little words. I could see this as being part of a much larger fic.You are right Becky it IS part of a much larger and darker story that is trying to write itself. The story itself is something I have worried whether it is too dark to share, but it has been insisting on being written. So it is one that I am writing "for myself". At some stage I will see if the entire thing ever gets posted.
Originally posted by Transmute JunWork this week is certainly stewing my brain! Actually, I felt like making animations today -something I've not done in a while.Originally posted by lborgia88 Hmm, interesting word... This one will have to stew in my head until at least Tuesday though -we'll see what comes out then!Ooh, stewed LB... always a treat!
CD well done, I thought you could do it!!!! very powerful, as TJ said, but yes it did demonstrate potential as the prompt required. I'm actually looking forward to reading the rest of the story, but in your own time, ok?
LB, fantastic, another new medium to portray the prompt. I hadn't realised Joe had had so many potential girlfriends, although I'm not so familiar with Kathy! And as in RL, the best ones are already taken shucks!!!!
Originally posted by KT1972 And as in RL, the best ones are already taken shucks!!!!Ah, but the "potential girlfriends" are all dead now, except Jun -and we'll assume she's with Ken. The question is, are you willing to risk ending up dead too?
Neat piece with Red Impulse! I can well believe that he'd have observed their training, even if they didn't know it.
CD, dark and painful indeed, but it's heartwarming to see that Anderson has faith in Mark's inner strength, but will support him no matter what happens, and that here, Jason is a close friend, trying to help him recover.
Originally posted by lborgia88I'm not immortal, the only mystery for me is the when and how it happens, and if it's after a night with the Condor.......Originally posted by KT1972 And as in RL, the best ones are already taken shucks!!!!Ah, but the "potential girlfriends" are all dead now, except Jun -and we'll assume she's with Ken. The question is, are you willing to risk ending up dead too?
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jan 2012 01:51
CD ... I love your piece, no matter how dark it is, and am so glad you decided to give it a try with such an excellent result! It has real sentiment in it, both in the story and in its writing, and it's a true reflection of reality! I'd also love to read the rest of the story whenever you'd feel comfortable to share it! It's good to see a spark of hope when everything seems lost, and it's a good thing for us to be also capable to notice it no matter the state we're in and no matter how things seem going wrong! On the contrary of thinking that this story might not be to our taste, it could really be a great inspiration to help open our own eyes!
LB ... that's such a genious idea! Well done!
LOL ... I don't know how much Joe would like to see it, though! It would surely make him feel depressed!
LOL ... I don't know how much Joe would like to see it, though! It would surely make him feel depressed!
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 11 Jan 2012 01:59
Wow! The responses to this prompt are making my day!
CD, excellent! Looking forward to reading more on this story!
LB, congratulations!!!
Well done, everyone! 
I'm still working on a little story prompted by the prompt, should publish tomorrow!
I'm still working on a little story prompted by the prompt, should publish tomorrow!
Wow! CD, I agree with everyone- that was powerful and very moving! You have a gift with emotional piece like that!
LB, so creative!!! I was cracking up! Love the little checklists he has for each girl! 
Welcome K2P2 ! I'm so glad this brought you "out of the shadows"! That was fantastic! I'll admit, at first I was a bit confused- thinking they were talking about Jun! But a new younger female member of the team? That would be very interesting! Great writing!! I hope we will see more from you in the future! 
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 11 Jan 2012 04:31
Welcome K2P2, and well done for the fic! I would be very interested in reading about a new character, and seeing Jinpei's interaction with her!
K2P2, and well done for finally joining in. Love the story, and intrigued with the new team member... hope to read more about her sometime.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 11 Jan 2012 09:23
LB, I love the animations! You forgot one other potential though, which is a Spanish girl from a Gatch II/ER episode who helps Joe hide form the Galactors... and then dies by the end of the episode.
http://www.junsjoint.net/eagleriders/eagleriders34.html
K2P2, I love your idea of a new team member! I's great the way you showed both her strengths and weaknesses, without actually using the character herself. We're seeing her through the SNT's eyes, and that's a far more interesting introduction. I can forsee hostilities between her and Jinpei. I hope you will continue this story!
Oh, and welcome to the board! It's great to see you here!
http://www.junsjoint.net/eagleriders/eagleriders34.html
K2P2, I love your idea of a new team member! I's great the way you showed both her strengths and weaknesses, without actually using the character herself. We're seeing her through the SNT's eyes, and that's a far more interesting introduction. I can forsee hostilities between her and Jinpei. I hope you will continue this story!
Oh, and welcome to the board! It's great to see you here!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jan 2012 10:40
Welcome K2P2!!!!
Love the piece you gave us. I have to agree with the others, very intriguing introducing a new team member. I would love to know if you have more related to this idea.
Originally posted by Transmute Jun LB, I love the animations! You forgot one other potential though, which is a Spanish girl from a Gatch II/ER episode who helps Joe hide form the Galactors... and then dies by the end of the episode.I remembered Chinita -the omission was more a case of not knowing so much about the Gatch version, and lack of time...
Welcome K2P2! Very interesting piece! If Ryu were needed off-ship during a lot of missions, it makes so much sense to bring in a 6th member to stay with the God Phoenix. And, the team could sure use another girl to bring a little more gender balance!
How old are the other team members here? I notice that you use "Spectrans" instead of "Galactor" and I'm wondering if this is set ahead it time -say, after Galactor's been defeated and a new enemy's appeared?
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jan 2012 16:05
Hi K2! Welcome to the group.
That's a wonderful start to a larger fic, I hope.
Thanks everyone! It is great to be here and to be writing again. I've loved reading and the art that everyone else has been posting, and will try to catch up on comments within the next few days when RL gives me a breather.
Sorry about the whole "Spectran/Galactacor" thingy, but my usual Beta reader is even busier than I am currently and I kinda rushed to get this one down.
And yes, there is more to her story...about 3 episodes worth currently...
Now over to introductions...
Originally posted by k2p2 And yes, there is more to her story...about 3 episodes worth currently...Glad to hear it! Feeling bad about skipping Chinita, I found some time for her today...
Iborgia--these are hilarious...and I can so see an 18 yr old boy compiling something like this, ninja or not...
Thanks for making me smile!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jan 2012 17:51
I don't think I saw that one. Thanks, LB. Poor Joe.
If they had remade this for BotP, no doubt Jason would have saved the girl. For the sensors, of course.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 11 Jan 2012 17:58
And now the set is complete! Unless you want to do a bonus Dr. Pandora, of course!
This is reminding me of your great cartoon with all of Condor Joe's past girlfriends!
This is reminding me of your great cartoon with all of Condor Joe's past girlfriends!
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 12 Jan 2012 00:58
Originally posted by Transmute Jun This is reminding me of your great cartoon with all of Condor Joe's past girlfriends!Where can one find this cartoon???
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 12 Jan 2012 01:19
k2p2 ... welcome again, and congrats for the piece you've submitted! Adding to everyone's praise, I too think that the introduction of a sixth, female member was a brilliant idea! The kind of interaction between this new character and the other Team members is also very interesting! Will be happy to read more ....
LB ... you just never let us down! Another great addition!
LOL, TJ .... you're right ... Dr Pandora would be another fair candidate, and she ended up dying, too! Oh, poor, poor Joe!
littlewolf
Forum God
posted 12 Jan 2012 02:53
Welcome k2p2, love the story, looking forward to reading more.
CD Brilliant, glad one off them still has faith in the eagle ability, guess the best one called him son.
KT1972 - there is always away around the condor curse, "don't be his girlfriend"
I'll settle for being a part time lover or companion anything other than the girlfriend title
Just don't let him fall in love with you and if you think he is having strong feeling , it's time to take some drastic action
Maybe 'friends with benefits' would be the safest course of action then LW?
It just cracks me up, in a tragic kind of way (does that make any sense?), how all the girls Joe meets end up dead. I've always been particularly interested in them though -guess it's my secret fantasy of being one of them that does it! 
Originally posted by Becky Rock If they had remade this for BotP, no doubt Jason would have saved the girl. For the sensors, of course.Yes, Zark would surely have explained all that at the end -like he "explained" that Tyna survived in Rage of the Robotoids, even though she clearly didn't leave the mansion with the rest of the team! In the Eagle Riders version of Gatch II's ep.39 here, she never gets captured at all -the big fight scene of Joe and the others against all the goons/Vorak in the base hidden in the castle is still there and the place still gets blown up, but she isn't shown at all. That's why there are subtitles showing in this one -I had to use the Gatch version that's up on youtube with the Korean subtitles. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvk1O_LOl6s Chinita makes her appearance here at about 5.46.
Originally posted by Daniella T Where can one find this cartoon???I still have it -It's one of the earlier things I did in Photoshop -and before I had any way to make screencaps myself.
Whew-reviews--finally!
Transmute Jun--loved the story, the completeness of it, that oftentimes what we think we want, isn't truly what we get or what whe need...
Springie-great picture, tons of potential there, and story fodder too.
KT-great scene. Envious of your brevity.
Clouddancer--Perfectly described darkness, the aftermath of the horrors of war, and frailities of the human spirit.
Iborgia--made me laugh..so typical of guys..like I said before, I could so totally see an 18 year old with a list like this.
Looking forward to prompt #3!
Originally posted by Transmute Jun LB, I love the animations! You forgot one other potential though, which is a Spanish girl from a Gatch II/ER episode who helps Joe hide form the Galactors... and then dies by the end of the episode.TJ, thanks for this link. I've been reading some of your ER episode guides..... am I right in thinking that Er was as relevent to Gatch II/F as BotP was to Gatchaman? I seem to get that impression!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 12 Jan 2012 07:46
KT, you're exactly right. Eagle Riders was an 'Americanized' version of Gatch II/F, put out by Saban (the same people who 'Americanized' the Power Rangers from the various Japanese Super Sentai series).
The show is a bit grating at times, particularly Hunter, because they gave him such a whiny, submissive personality. If you didn't understand Gatchaman, you'd wonder why Joe wasn't the leader! But on the good side, they tried very hard with the Gatchaman II episodes to stick to the original Gatchaman storylines. There was some editing for violence (some characters who 'died' really didn't, and in the first couple of episodes they made it clear that all of those guys in green uniforms were androids) but they only used Gatchaman footage and never had to insert a Zark-like character.
When you get to the Fighter episodes, it's a bit more confusing, because they chopped them up somewhat and the storyline was jumbled. They got the basics in there though, and there were a few good Fighter eps that made it through the translation relatively intact.
Most importantly, though, Eagle Riders is the only English version that exists of Gatchaman II or F, so for English-speaking fans, it might be the only wat you understand what's going on in Gatchaman!
I've noticed some of the subtle changes, Ryu's father and brother became Ollie's older brother and nephew for example, and of course nobody 'died' they were just never seen or heard of again!!
Yep, pretty much! And if you watch long enough, you'll discover that Lukkan (Katse) is actually Mallanox's (Gel Sadra's) father!
You can see the opening of the show here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEdg1oxY-sY&feature=rellist&playnext=1&list=PL0301776334A51306
so now I've seen "some" Eagle Riders footage.... shame that's all there is on youtube, I'd like to have seen some of the actual eps. The only criticism I have is that the theme tune was rather repetitive.
Originally posted by clouddancer The story itself is something I have worried whether it is too dark to share, but it has been insisting on being written. So it is one that I am writing "for myself". At some stage I will see if the entire thing ever gets posted.If that story is writing itself, I do hope it finishes, because I want to read it. I love stories like that, where characters are pushed to the edge and need to find their way back. I love seeing the growth that occurs and the changes in the character who is both familar, but different from how we once knew him, or sometimes changed all together, but is more mature and stronger.
Originally posted by lborgia88 The question is, are you willing to risk ending up dead too?Oh, yes. I'd take that chance in a heartbeat. Great animations LB!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 12 Jan 2012 09:54
Originally posted by KT1972 so now I've seen "some" Eagle Riders footage.... shame that's all there is on youtube, I'd like to have seen some of the actual eps. The only criticism I have is that the theme tune was rather repetitive.I don't know of any actual episodes online, but you can buy the entire series (65 episodes) as a bootleg here. http://www.ioffer.com/i/eagle-riders-(gatchaman-2)-english-dub-11-dvds-124574935
TJ -- great story, great prompt! Great interaction between Ken and Jun, and we all know that at the end of the hug, it's going to be back to that same old potential.
As for coming up with the idea for the story with the prompt, I think that is a natural occurrence.
Springie -- great picture of young Joe! We can really see the connection between the young boy and the older one with this picture. I wonder where Nambu found the goons for him to fight?
KT -- Great little drabble. It fits perfectly with the brief conversations we saw between RI and Nambu.
CD -- I'll repeat my statement, I'd love to read more of that story. Hope you are able to finish it.
LB -- Great animations and comic. I don't think I've seen the comic before, so thanks for posting it again.
k2p2 -- Welcome! That was a neat story. I, too, want to read more of it. Hope you post them here or at the archive.
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 12 Jan 2012 10:42
LB, thanks for the cartoon!!! Loved it! 
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 12 Jan 2012 10:59
Here's my take on this week's prompt (it's like an out-take from the fic I wrote for the gift exchange, "Adeste Fideles"):
The five teenagers who would go on to become G-Force had gathered in Anderson's office, wearing their new civilian uniforms and big grins, as they had been told that the briefing they would receive would go beyond the usual drivel about "potential threats" to the security of the Galaxy, but would actually identify, at long last, their enemy.
"Take a seat," said Anderson absent-mindedly, entering the office and depositing his pile of folders on his desk. His young charges sprawled themselves on the couch, except Jason, who had already found that his favourite position was the one where he slumped by the door frame, keeping a defensive posture just in case he disagreed with what he was going to hear. But this time, even he was all ears.
"Today I'm not going to go over the usual reports from our people on Earth and Riga, nor will I explain, once again, how your cerebonics work. Today, team, I will tell you what I have been afraid of for some time now...The threat we are facing is becoming more and more tangible each day...Here on this map, you can see the Crab Nebulae...If you look here, there's a planet called Spectra. This is the threat our experts have warned us about...And now I can tell you also. The leader of Spectra made an announcement recently that unless we submit to their demands, he will attack the Earth and our allied planets."
Anderson paused, and Mark took the opportunity to jump up.
"We're ready, Chief! Just give us the word!"
But Anderson shook his head.
"Negotiations are still ongoing. There is still hope we can avoid armed conflict, which is always a good thing. But I called you here today to let you know that the potential threat we were facing from Spectra has now become a real one."
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 12 Jan 2012 14:13
Originally posted by amethystThank you for the encouragement for posting it. It is still a long way from being completed, most of the story is still in my head. Partly because I have been too busy to write it down, and partly because my muses don't always cooperate.Originally posted by clouddancer The story itself is something I have worried whether it is too dark to share, but it has been insisting on being written. So it is one that I am writing "for myself". At some stage I will see if the entire thing ever gets posted.If that story is writing itself, I do hope it finishes, because I want to read it. I love stories like that, where characters are pushed to the edge and need to find their way back. I love seeing the growth that occurs and the changes in the character who is both familar, but different from how we once knew him, or sometimes changed all together, but is more mature and stronger.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 12 Jan 2012 14:18
Daniella very nice prompt. Mark seems a little eager here, something I would expect more from Jason.
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 12 Jan 2012 15:51
Originally posted by clouddancerCD, I second the encouragement for the fic. I'd love to read it, too.Originally posted by amethystThank you for the encouragement for posting it. It is still a long way from being completed, most of the story is still in my head. Partly because I have been too busy to write it down, and partly because my muses don't always cooperate.Originally posted by clouddancer The story itself is something I have worried whether it is too dark to share, but it has been insisting on being written. So it is one that I am writing "for myself". At some stage I will see if the entire thing ever gets posted.If that story is writing itself, I do hope it finishes, because I want to read it. I love stories like that, where characters are pushed to the edge and need to find their way back. I love seeing the growth that occurs and the changes in the character who is both familar, but different from how we once knew him, or sometimes changed all together, but is more mature and stronger.
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 12 Jan 2012 15:54
Daniella, that worked quite well and had a sense of darkness to it that I liked.
Daniella, that was great. I think you could probably expand that one story and the snippet and turn it into an entire AU if you were so inspired.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 12 Jan 2012 16:14
I like this, Daniella! It shows how young and 'inexperienced' the Team really is, that they're eager to fight, rather than immediately thinking of settling things peacefully.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 12 Jan 2012 17:07
Interesting POV, Amethyst! I'd guess that Jaso's having a pretty bad day. He seems extremely bitter, but then, in some episodes, he certainly was.
I can see why he'd be angry though, based on what he's thinking.
Daniella- that was a great insight into the early team! Little do they know what they're about to get into!
Oooo...Amethyst...love this! Jason is having a hard time living in Mark's shadow...I feel for him!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 12 Jan 2012 17:16
Amethyst, that is an interesting perspective, but I could see Jason feeling that way at times. I think anyone who is "second best" does, as they wonder why they are not or can't be good enough.
Daniella -that's a significant moment -their first "real" briefing, where training/preparing gets replaced by an actual war. I like how Jason's already got his classic pose, a little removed from the others, while Mark is eager to lead.
Amethyst, you convey well how Jason must often feel -even as a kid, I picked up that Jason was getting rather a raw deal from Anderson and Zark -and, oh, did feel for him!
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 13 Jan 2012 00:52
Originally posted by amethyst Daniella, that was great. I think you could probably expand that one story and the snippet and turn it into an entire AU if you were so inspired.Tempting!
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 13 Jan 2012 00:54
Amethyst, excellent!!!!
It's just how I picture Jason on his bad days, and why he constantly needs to reassert himself!
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 13 Jan 2012 01:15
Daniella ... that was such a great description of how the very first, important briefing of the Team could have been! They're all so young and inexperienced, albeit their training, and they don't yet know what they really would have been facing! I'd like to add my pokings for the possibility of an expansion to this story!
Amethyst ... such a lovely interpretation of Jason's feelings, which I can completely understand and which makes me sympathise more with him! Him being criticised ever so often, even mistakingly, makes it harder for him to accept his being second! You cannot blame the guy!
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 13 Jan 2012 01:16
LB ... I love that cartoon of yours! I mostly love how you expertly chose the poses of the characters, which so reflect what they're actually saying!
Daniella, that wasn't meager at all. I could picture it perfectly as the opening scene to the BoTP series, or one of them. Nice building of tension for something bigger later on. Please continue.
Amethyst, (hey, that's my birthstone!) I can so totally believe a teenager's thought processess falling along those lines, as well as have sympathy for his perceived tormentors in that they are needing Jason to be the best that he can be if something were to ever happen to Mark. So yes, he is going to be scrutinized, perhaps unfairly even. Keep up the good work!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 13 Jan 2012 18:18
Originally posted by Transmute JunI did a couple of years ago and the quality is okay at first, but then it gets worse with each subsequent disc. Lots of out of focus.Originally posted by KT1972 so now I've seen "some" Eagle Riders footage.... shame that's all there is on youtube, I'd like to have seen some of the actual eps. The only criticism I have is that the theme tune was rather repetitive.I don't know of any actual episodes online, but you can buy the entire series (65 episodes) as a bootleg here. http://www.ioffer.com/i/eagle-riders-(gatchaman-2)-english-dub-11-dvds-124574935
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 13 Jan 2012 18:26
The Sky is Falling episode is a prime example of Jason getting the flack when Mark does something wrong and Mark doesn't get in trouble for the biggest screw up ever. Anderson tells Princess she needs to help Jason.
Another example was the Space Rocket Escort. Mark takes off after Cronus and the team gets captured. I bet Jason was blamed for that, too.
Originally posted by Becky Rock The Sky is Falling episode is a prime example of Jason getting the flack when Mark does something wrong and Mark doesn't get in trouble for the biggest screw up ever. Anderson tells Princess she needs to help Jason. Another example was the Space Rocket Escort. Mark takes off after Cronus and the team gets captured. I bet Jason was blamed for that, too.I think for every episode where Mark screws up and nothing is said, there are at least two where Jason is mocked or denigrated in some way. Though, I'll admit to taking the easy way out and didn't go back through those episodes. Maybe one day when I have time I'll do that and bring in more specifics for that and revise the story.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 14 Jan 2012 01:51
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Oooh such torment. I really feel for Ken, and his inability for expressing how he truly feels about Jun, not this time because his duty forbidding it though. It's his own fear of loss preventing him from telling her what he really wants to say.
Oooo...Nice, Marie!!! I like the way you've gotten into the Eagle's head, here. It makes sense that with all of the loss in his life, and the expectations that everyone has for him would prevent him from telling Jun how he feels!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 14 Jan 2012 08:38
Marie, I love the way you have really gone down into Ken's psyche on this one, showing his exhaustion, his hopes, and his fears. You've really painted a wonderful character portrait of the Eagle!
Originally posted by k2p2 Amethyst, (hey, that's my birthstone!)Mine too! And as month #2, a good one for Condors.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 14 Jan 2012 09:08
That is very powerful writing on the Eagle's thoughts Marie. Beautiful work.
The exchange between Anderson and Jason in "Awesome Ray Force," I think, really highlights Jason's situation -Anderson's so quick to think the worst of him there, and to assume he's lying, when he shows up really late at Center Neptune.
Gatchamarie, you've really hit on the essence of Ken's predicament as Leader. So much self-denial and repression -that "tough shell" that he has to keep around himself, against weakness and vulnerability, but unfortunately against love too.
littlewolf
Forum God
posted 14 Jan 2012 09:45
From: Spectra Primary School
To: Career / Guidance Officer
Subject: Student Questionairs
Enclose is the latest in Student questionaires for your evaluation and recommendation.
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To: Spectra Primary School
From: Career / Guidance Officer
Subject: Student Evaluation
Enclosed is my recommendation for Students and their potential Careers for the Furtherment within Spectra Defence Force.
Transfer papers and further details will be forwarded to your School within the week for student transfer.
Wow, Gatchamarie. You've packed a lot of emotion and turmoil in a first draft. Well done. I liked the glimpse of Ken's inner turmoil, its sources and what he is going to do about it.
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 14 Jan 2012 10:08
Marie, that was great! We sometimes forget how deep a person Ken is and the heaviness of the responsibilities on his shoulders. He thinks he can't have goodness in his life.
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 14 Jan 2012 10:10
LW, how'd you get that idea? That is so right to the point. I could see Spectra doing that.
LW, these evaluations of different students' "potential" are great!! I think they've definitely made 5 good decisions here!
littlewolf
Forum God
posted 14 Jan 2012 10:31
Becky Rock,
was in the lunch room at work and overheard, some off the mothers talking about their children and how some wanted different teachers for their kids for the new year, how they knew their kids were more gifted than what the teacher saw.
It kind of grew from that.
(ps for all the teachers and educations people on the forum, My hat is off to you, you have the patience of saints.)
Originally posted by lborgia88Mine too. I guess I wasn't very creative in coming up with a penname, but it is one I've been using forever and too much a part of me to change.Originally posted by k2p2 Amethyst, (hey, that's my birthstone!)Mine too! And as month #2, a good one for Condors.
Originally posted by littlewolf how they knew their kids were more gifted than what the teacher saw. It kind of grew from that. (ps for all the teachers and educations people on the forum, My hat is off to you, you have the patience of saints.)Great job, LW! From your quote above, you've picked up on why parents are often more frustrating for teachers than the students. And then you get the Administrators who prefer politics to education and bend over for the parents. Marie, lovely piece. It really shows Ken's inner-turmoil.
Mine came from an interest in Lucrezia Borgia, that goes back to my teens. When creating a yahoo email address in 2000, I didn't want to use my real name, so...
Since "lborgia" was taken, I tacked on the "88" because that's how my student ID# number as an undergrad began (all students starting in 1988 had ID#s starting with "88") and I've long used variations of my old ID# for PIN #s and what-not as it's fused into my memory.
Since I'm too lazy to keep track of multiple user names, I use the same one everywhere that I'm registered -keeps it simple!
Originally posted by lborgia88 Since I'm too lazy to keep track of multiple user names, I use the same one everywhere that I'm registered -keeps it simple!Understand that. I have two base user names: variations of my real name for professional work and variations of Amethyst for fun stuff. I have three base passwords that I adjust depending upon site restrictions and use. It makes things easy to remember and if I have to stop and think which one did I use here, it would harder for others to guess.
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 14 Jan 2012 12:28
I used a pen name over in the Yahoo Gatchaman group, but went to my real name here. Don't know if that was a wise choice or not. 
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 14 Jan 2012 12:37
My "Daniella T" pen-name is based on a TV series I watched as a kid (and continue to watch), called "The Buccaneers", where the captain, played by the late Robert Shaw, was called "Dan Tempest". This was the series that sparked my interest in TV and, in a very primitive form, what would today be called "fanfiction", as I started making up my own stories based on it.
For original fiction (like for NaNo) I use the pen-name "Jessica Anderson", it sounds a bit more professional in case I ever want to publish (which I am considering). This is, of course, based on our very own Anderson!
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 14 Jan 2012 12:44
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Originally posted by lborgia88I'm also a February Condor! You think this is a coincidence?Originally posted by k2p2 Amethyst, (hey, that's my birthstone!)Mine too! And as month #2, a good one for Condors.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 14 Jan 2012 13:48
LW, that had me !!! You really do have incredible insight and an awesome sense of humor!
!!! You really do have incredible insight and an awesome sense of humor!
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 14 Jan 2012 14:38
Originally posted by KT1972 Guess what !!! Me too, how wierd is that?Yes! Any more February Condors???
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 14 Jan 2012 15:26
My birthday is in May. Does that mean I should be an Owl?
Oooo...mine is March...#3...perfect for a Swannie!
November Condor/Owl
Thank all,
I'm so left Brained at work, I love what I'm doing, but sometimes I forget that the enquires people are asking me are new to them, (I may have heared them dozen times that day)
My muse is always in the background, overhearing conversations, watching people, filing things away for later, pulling things apart and seeing how they fit.
I've got use to the "ODD" looks I get every now and then, when my muse takes over. (it all makes perfect sence to me, but sometines we forget about filtering and boundaries)
On this forum, I've just let her play and she is happy
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 14 Jan 2012 18:20
LW, that sounds like what I used to do as well. These days I am so stressed out and tired most of the time my muses don't appear.
Originally posted by Daniella TDaniella, I missed being born on the second by 56 minutes.Originally posted by KT1972 Guess what !!! Me too, how wierd is that?Yes! Any more February Condors???
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 14 Jan 2012 19:02
I think our muse can be a devil or an angel. If I have a bad day, my characrters have a bad day. If I have a good day, my characters do. If I'm curled up miserable, my muse is hiding.
I do find that sometimes my muse is hiding on one project, but is open to another. That's why I have numerous projects going on all at once. I write whatever one is talking to me at the time.
Originally posted by Becky Rock I do find that sometimes my muse is hiding on one project, but is open to another. That's why I have numerous projects going on all at once. I write whatever one is talking to me at the time.Good point, Becky. I find that sometimes if I can't get something else to flow or work, changing projects like shifting gears, sometimes help to overcome the block, too.
Funny, my muse seems to be tied to music...Most of what I write has a song playing in the background, certain songs for certain characters.
Potential's main character-seems to have an affinity for tunes by Suzanne Vega. "Left of Center and Marlena On the Wall," being most prominent...hoo-boy that dates me, eh?
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gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 15 Jan 2012 00:31
LW ... you never disappoint us! You so know how to surprise us with the most extravagant pieces which, unusual as they would be, would always enter perfectly in whatever theme we would be discussing!
Great job with your piece! I love the idea of that questionnaire and how you've described every Spectran post!
BTW ... I've just noticed your signature ... don't know whether I was in the clouds before or whether it's a new one! ... and, I was delighted to see that citation out of one of my favourite Chris De Burgh's songs! It's a line which has stayed in my mind from the very first moment I heard it, also, and which says a lot!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 15 Jan 2012 08:57
Originally posted by k2p2 Funny, my muse seems to be tied to music...Most of what I write has a song playing in the background, certain songs for certain characters. Potential's main character-seems to have an affinity for tunes by Suzanne Vega. "Left of Center and Marlena On the Wall," being most prominent...hoo-boy that dates me, eh?K2, I get a lot of ideas from music. I'll listen to a song and the words just tell a different story to me. I also like to tie a song to a story. It sometimes helps my muse get rolling again if I listen to the song.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 15 Jan 2012 09:39
I find that writing helps me escape. No matter what mood I'm in, I can get into the world of the characters and then I'm with them.
OTOH, I use my personal experiences as a draw. So if the characters are supposed to be smart, or brave, or fearful, or insecure, or happy, or sad... I draw on my own experiences with these feelings to describe it.
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 15 Jan 2012 12:06
I think we all do, TJ. I also read a lot and learn from other authors. Like reading your wonderful smut helps me with writing my own.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 15 Jan 2012 13:02
LOL, I learned how to write smut from reading Bertrice Small.
Originally posted by Daniella TWow, four of us born in February and all Condors -it has to mean something! 2Originally posted by KT1972 Guess what !!! Me too, how wierd is that?Yes! Any more February Condors???
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Originally posted by Transmute Jun My birthday is in May. Does that mean I should be an Owl?Hmm, 3
+ 2 = 5 ?
Originally posted by Springie Oooo...mine is March...#3...perfect for a Swannie!So it is!
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 16 Jan 2012 00:15
Originally posted by Transmute Jun I find that writing helps me escape.That's what I find, too! ... at least, when I would really have the time to do so! Sometimes I'd feel frustrated just because I'd be wishing to write down something, in one of my emotional moods, but couldn't be able to do so because of other commitments! It's like when relieving oneself just by writing down the feelings being felt at the moment, especially when they could not be shared with a particular audience! In fact, this Bradbury's Jar is helping me a lot, because I'm being able to write short pieces, knowing how much time I usually spend on longer ones! Moreover, I really needed some practice!
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 16 Jan 2012 06:53
Originally posted by lborgia88And Amethyst almost in February! The plot thickens!Originally posted by Daniella TWow, four of us born in February and all Condors -it has to mean something! 2Originally posted by KT1972 Guess what !!! Me too, how wierd is that?Yes! Any more February Condors???
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 16 Jan 2012 07:40
Originally posted by lborgia88I can see the wheelss turning in LB's head....Originally posted by Transmute Jun My birthday is in May. Does that mean I should be an Owl?Hmm, 3
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 16 Jan 2012 11:42
But I want to be a 2, too, but my birthday is in January. I don't want to be a 1!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 16 Jan 2012 12:40
I'm sure LB can come up with an explanation for that as well, Becky! And I'm eager to hear it...
All those June brides...or that was what my mother told me, and I was third child out of four.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 16 Jan 2012 12:58
Shouldn't June brides be having March babies - not February ones?
Originally posted by clouddancer Shouldn't June brides be having March babies - not February ones?I guess that all depends....
Originally posted by clouddancer Shouldn't June brides be having March babies - not February ones?My parents were married in April. I was due December, but my folks had already been married a year. Now my oldest son, if we go by when I got married, he should have been born in late May or Early June, instead of mid-February.
Originally posted by Becky Rock But I want to be a 2, too, but my birthday is in January. I don't want to be a 1!Any chance you were born prematurely? Well, maybe this is destined to happen someday...
Originally posted by lborgia88Not at 7 pounds 12 ounces. I love that picture. I figure Jason pulled that on Mark and Mark is pissed.Originally posted by Becky Rock But I want to be a 2, too, but my birthday is in January. I don't want to be a 1!Any chance you were born prematurely? Well, maybe this is destined to happen someday...
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 18 Jan 2012 09:57
Would Ryu be laughing if he were wearing number 3?
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 18 Jan 2012 15:39
Good question.
Although they coukd have drawn G-2 a little better. His face is too narrow and his hair too wavy.
Originally posted by Transmute Jun Would Ryu be laughing if he were wearing number 3?
Originally posted by Becky Rock Good question.Yeah, maybe none of them would be laughing.
Originally posted by Daniella TSorry to make that confusing, Daniella. I was born in February, but I just missed being born on the Second of February by less than an hour. It is actually a point of irritation I have with myself. If I'd been a little less stubborn, I'd have shared a birthday with my grandfather and I've have really liked that even though I never met the man.Originally posted by lborgia88And Amethyst almost in February! The plot thickens!Originally posted by Daniella TWow, four of us born in February and all Condors -it has to mean something! 2Originally posted by KT1972 Guess what !!! Me too, how wierd is that?Yes! Any more February Condors???
Originally posted by lborgia88That's too funny, LB. Though I do wonder why Princess was busted down lower than Mark (other than maybe Keyop being too low on the cap to change his number)?Originally posted by Transmute Jun Would Ryu be laughing if he were wearing number 3?Originally posted by Becky Rock Good question.Yeah, maybe none of them would be laughing.
Daniella T
GatchaFreak
posted 21 Jan 2012 13:01
Originally posted by amethystOkay, so one more February Condor!!! (I thought we were talking about the month, not the date, sorry!) But at least we got the February Condors sortedOriginally posted by Daniella TSorry to make that confusing, Daniella. I was born in February, but I just missed being born on the Second of February by less than an hour. It is actually a point of irritation I have with myself. If I'd been a little less stubborn, I'd have shared a birthday with my grandfather and I've have really liked that even though I never met the man.Originally posted by lborgia88And Amethyst almost in February! The plot thickens!Originally posted by Daniella TWow, four of us born in February and all Condors -it has to mean something! 2Originally posted by KT1972 Guess what !!! Me too, how wierd is that?Yes! Any more February Condors???
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ElectricWhite
Gatchamaniac
posted 21 Jan 2012 13:46
So. . . does this mean somebody's going to figure out the spread for the rest of the year?
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 21 Jan 2012 14:55
I agree with Amethyst! Jun was demoted far more than Ken, which seems awfully sexist to me!!!!!! 
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 21 Jan 2012 15:52
But the women are always more at fault when in an illicit relationship. Guys are supposed to sow their oats.
That's sexist.
ElectricWhite
Gatchamaniac
posted 21 Jan 2012 16:39
Originally posted by Becky Rock But the women are always more at fault when in an illicit relationship. Guys are supposed to sow their oats. That's sexist.Face it, ours is a flawed world.
Think about it: how many times do the police round up the customers as well as the prostitutes?
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 21 Jan 2012 18:52
Could you see Keyop or Tiny being a good second for Jason? I don't think I could.
Originally posted by Transmute Jun I agree with Amethyst! Jun was demoted far more than Ken, which seems awfully sexist to me!!!!!!My thinking was that Anderson would want Princess to have to be the one to stay on the Phoenix instead of Tiny -no more of those oh-so-common Mark & Princess pairings during missions. Oh, and Keyop "being too low on the cap" for me to feel inclined to mess with his number was also a factor here! But it's an easy swap in Photoshop, and I think I like it better this way!
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 22 Jan 2012 00:35
Oh, LB ... those are priceless! Mark demoted to Number 5 ... now that's a twist! No wonder Ken sticks with the idea of not having any type of relationship!!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 22 Jan 2012 08:42
Okay, I like this one better!!!!!!
Actually, I had been thinking that Princess would be 4, and Keyop 5. And then Keyop could complain about how he didn't do annything wrong... or maybe 'tha's what he gets for turning a blind eye at Jill's'...
Still, I like yours better!
Actually, I had been thinking that Princess would be 4, and Keyop 5. And then Keyop could complain about how he didn't do annything wrong... or maybe 'tha's what he gets for turning a blind eye at Jill's'...
Still, I like yours better!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 22 Jan 2012 08:46
Does that mean Jason gets the jet, Princess gets the car and Tiny gets the motorcycle?
Just so long as they don't have to swap Birdstyles too...
ElectricWhite
Gatchamaniac
posted 22 Jan 2012 11:13
Originally posted by KT1972 The Owl in the Swan Birdstyle..... NoooooI totally agree! That image is a sin against nature!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 22 Jan 2012 12:16
There have been a few Birdstyle-swapping pics posted here before. But just because you all seem to want it, I'll post this one again...
Originally posted by Transmute Jun There have been a few Birdstyle-swapping pics posted here before. But just because you all seem to want it, I'll post this one again...At least these are just pink and they aren't in mini-dresses.
ElectricWhite
Gatchamaniac
posted 22 Jan 2012 12:20
Somebody. . . please let me know when this terrible phase has passed . . . don't let this current evil make me become a hermit. . .please. . .
looks like the Swallow and Owl are enjoying their change of uniform though, maybe they'd like to keep theirs... Eagle and Condor aren't happy about it though!!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 22 Jan 2012 12:25
Yep, Ken even had to be gagged to keep from protesting!
I think we had a mini-challenge once too, to explain why in one early episode of Gatch there's a scene where Jun has a 2 and Joe has a 3 (it's actually because originally that was how Tatsunoko wanted to rank them, but it got switched later). We got some interesting fics out of that one!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 22 Jan 2012 14:41
The mix-up at the dry cleaners fic?
Originally posted by Becky Rock Does that mean Jason gets the jet, Princess gets the car and Tiny gets the motorcycle?Hee -that's possible! Or, since Mark, as #5, would get the Phoenix, maybe it'd be simpler if Tiny flew the jet as #3 (he is a good pilot), and Jason kept his car and Princess her motorcycle?
Originally posted by KT1972 The Owl in the Swan Birdstyle..... NoooooI've got a rough pic, from way back, of what she might look like in the other birdstyles -but nothing with the Owl in the Swan's! And I don't plan to draw that...
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 22 Jan 2012 16:20
She looks good in all of them.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 22 Jan 2012 16:48
With her hair color, she looks best in 1 and 2. 4 washes her out, and with 5, her hair blends into the wings too much.
Originally posted by clouddancer The story itself is something I have worried whether it is too dark to share, but it has been insisting on being written. So it is one that I am writing "for myself". At some stage I will see if the entire thing ever gets posted.CD, I tend to write pretty dark stuff (though I have some ideas for some funny fics too). I know I'd like to read it.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 23 Jan 2012 16:47
Duly noted Chris.
Maybe one day .... if I can ever find the time, or my muses, to co-operate.
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