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Last post by gatchgirl 9 Jan 2013 14:02
This was a really fun project! I encourage anyone who draws to try this! I had no idea how much my style had changed over the years!
Draw it again
Wow, a vast improvement Springie, are you going to try it with some of your others?
Thanks, KT! Yes, I am planning on trying some others...I'd also love to see some other artists around here try this and post it in this thread!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 27 Dec 2011 13:42
Wow, I can see a big difference!!!!
If you want to redo some older pics, might I suggest redoing some of your pictures from Inhibitions? 
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 27 Dec 2011 17:46
The first is in pencil? Not being that level of artist nor having the slightest idea of how to do graphics on a computer, I'm assuming the second is just a kind of photoshop coloring?
I love them both!
There's certainly a HUGE difference in the two pictures! The newer one shows a lot more of the tiny details that only come with practise, and it looks a more natural pose.
The colouring - well, it shows that you have gotten very good with photoshop. I certainly would have liked to see the difference with you doing the same drawing in the same medium to see how you had matured in tht way as well.
That said - I like the bust area on the first picture - it looks more "natural" (let's face it - few women have perfectly defined and perky boobs when seen through a shirt). On the first picture, she looks like a woman and even the crumpling of the number on her t-shirt looks more "normal".
All in all, I do like the second one better. And like TJ, I'd love to see some of your other earlier pics re-done.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 28 Dec 2011 03:42
Lovely idea, Springie! Though both are great, the difference between them is really visible! There's a lot of refinement, which brings the character closer to the one we know! And, Photoshop does really make a difference since we're talking about cartoon characters! I'd certainly love to see more (like TJ suggested, even those from "Inhibitions" if you wish!*grin*)!
From my part, I couldn't do much since I don't know how much my drawing could vary! I haven't ever gotten the chance of even trying out Photoshop, and my pieces are just a few!
Hey, you did it! Don't forget it add it to the gallery here:
http://draw-this-again-meme.deviantart.com/gallery/?set=32698228&offset=0
With the transition from pencil to digital colouring, your work really has grown so much since you started out, and you've truly developed your own "Springie" style for all the Gatch characters!
I'd like to try this too -my earliest pics really make me cringe- but I haven't had the time yet...
Mine make me cringe, too, LB! Thanks for showing me this! I joined and added mine to the gallery.
Thanks for the awesome comments, everyone!
Maddy, you're right about the colored pencils...I really need to try the "old way" again!
When I get a chance, I think I know which cringe-inducing pic of mine I most want to redraw -my very first shirtless Joe!
I think I could do that entire pic that he was in better now.
(A "cheat" meme since I didn't redraw anything here, just used two unrelated pics)
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 28 Dec 2011 12:33
'Cheating' or not, it's still obvious that there is a great deal of improvement!
Thanks! The real trick will be to have an equal amount of improvement apparent in 2014, when comparing back to 2011!
can it be improved upon? It looks pretty good to me!!
Wow! That's awesome, LB! Neat to see them side-by-side! I agree- it will be interesting to see how we've changed in a few years!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 28 Dec 2011 15:42
LB, both are good. The digital allows more natural looking shadowing.
Yum.
They're both digital, actually -but three years ago I had no clue about all the possible softer/fuzzier brush settings, or opacity levels, or how to put each bit of shading in its own layer so that working on one doesn't mess up others, or that it's a really good idea to use a photo for anatomy/light reference etc. Here's hoping I figure out still more things in the future!
I agree- it will be interesting to see how we've changed in a few years!I'm already thinking, with the 2011 pic, that I should have left out the lines on his arm, neck, pecs and collarbones and just tried to convey it with shading alone. Something to try the next time at any rate!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 29 Dec 2011 08:14
Give it a try and see how it looks.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 29 Dec 2011 08:17
Trust LB to perfect the art of a naked Condor!!!! 
Not that I'm complaining....
Not that I'm complaining....
Joe is, by far, the one I've drawn the most (followed by Ken).
It's said that you should write what you'd want to read -I guess I'm just drawing what I want to see? 
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 29 Dec 2011 14:01
Originally posted by lborgia88 It's said that you should write what you'd want to read -I guess I'm just drawing what I want to see?I'm not complaining, on either score!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 29 Dec 2011 15:34
Me either.
What else do you want to see, LB?
Springie
Her Royal Fluffiness...Swan of Swans...
posted 29 Dec 2011 17:14
(edited 29 Dec 2011 17:16)
This is just too much fun! The early pic makes me laugh- why...OH WHY...did I make Joe blonde?
I'd like to see some more from the rest of you...and I'm with LB about drawing what I want to see! Yes, LB...what more do you want to see? *poke*
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 29 Dec 2011 17:28
Yum again.
I wish I could Springie, but an artist I am not.
More naked Condors? wouldn't say no myself, only wish I could draw as good as you lot!!
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 31 Dec 2011 02:00
These comparisons are just awesome, and awesome is also how we change and refine ourselves in everything in life as we mature! Art expresses more this aspect, but us human beings continue to refine our own complete self as long as we live! Can't wait to see more examples, even those of the future!
Congrats to you both, Springie and LB ... you're doing such a great job ... especially anatomy speaking! Hmm ... any naked Eagles?!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 31 Dec 2011 09:23
Originally posted by gatchamarie Hmm ... any naked Eagles?!Somehow, I suspect there are many!!!!!
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Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 31 Dec 2011 11:32
Wow, that's a ton of work! Not that I didn't realize that you put a lot of work into your art... but I didn't realize there were so many steps!
Naked Eagles? Me? Draw nakey Ken? 
LB, you are so meticulous! That's why your pictures always turn out so nice! Wish I had the patience for all of those steps!
LB, you are so meticulous! That's why your pictures always turn out so nice! Wish I had the patience for all of those steps!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 31 Dec 2011 12:46
LB, that was fascinating. I knew it was a lot of work, but wow.
I don't think of it as work (well, aside from the pencil drawing, which can be tedious) but rather as fun -especially doing all the colouring.
But something based just on a screencap, especially a close up of a face, with no poses/props to reference and figure out and no background, that I can do much faster.
This, IIRC, took just a few hours or so.
He lost his shirt here, but he's still not showing much skin. We need one of your naked eagles, Springie!
He lost his shirt here, but he's still not showing much skin. We need one of your naked eagles, Springie!
WOOHOOOOO! AWESOME, LB! Ikwym about closeups- they do go much faster! I like them better b/c I don't have to deal with anatomy as much!
I'll def. look into another risque eagle pose...
Well...not exactly nude...but an Eagle...does that count?
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 Jan 2012 09:44
Ooooo ... yummy!! That does count for me!! ... thanks, Springie! The pic is awesome, and awesome is he! Love the pose, and the shading!
LB ... I was fascinated whilst seeing all the work involved in your drawings, stage by stage! You really need to be patient, and it really shows how much dedication you attribute to each and every piece of art of yours! And, I agree with you and Springie regarding close-ups! They're definitely much faster to draw!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 Jan 2012 12:54
The Eagle is looking good. Showing off his six pack. Maybe some adoring fans are lined up in front of him, jaws dropping open in awe.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 3 Jan 2012 08:24
And the Eagle knows those fans are there, judging by the look in his eyes!
Or... maybe there's just *one* adoring fan there... and she's got *all* of his attention....
well we all know the Eagle only has eyes for one person 
Originally posted by KT1972 well we all know the Eagle only has eyes for one personAre you sure? He seemed tempted by Amanda Gregg, even if it was just briefly.
Originally posted by KT1972 who?The girl kidnapped in Defector to Spectra
You mean Rumi, I only have access to the Gatch episode! But she came onto him, and he knocked her back IIRC!
Actually, both were subtle and passive. But in both versions he did wistfully pick up the flower that he dropped as if to imply if things were different ....
I'll have to watch for that, the next time I manage to see the ep!!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 3 Jan 2012 13:14
But in BOTP, he specifically thought about 'his affections for Princess' before he turned Rumi down. 
now there's something to look forward too !!
Originally posted by Springie Well...not exactly nude...but an Eagle...does that count?I say it counts! What he's showing looks damned good! I've always had a hunch that Ken had some sort of past romantic involvement with the woman, Lisa, who's in the Gatch II episode 21 -the one where he goes to the reunion of his former flight school class.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 4 Jan 2012 00:09
Originally posted by lborgia88 I've always had a hunch that Ken had some sort of past romantic involvement with the woman, Lisa, who's in the Gatch II episode 21 -the one where he goes to the reunion of his former flight school class.That could have been very probable, Jun not being present at the time! Although, I doubt how much involvement there could have been from Ken's part given his nature, and the fact that he was yet younger than his actual age! But, who knows ... maybe he could have been less rational in his early teens!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 4 Jan 2012 07:46
It's also very suspicious that Lisa looks a LOT like Jun!!!!! Makes you wonder if she was a substitute for the girl he left behind.
Very likely! And she was most likely older than Jun too. But, it's Lisa who gets left behind in the end when Ken has to leave the flight school.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 5 Jan 2012 14:25
Wow, both of you, Springie and LB have made remarkable changes in your work through the years. I have to agree it will be interesting to see what changes you will have made in another 2 or 3 years.
I really want to start doing more of these...here's one I did recently. I couldn't add it to my Photobucket, so I'll have to give you a link to my Deviant Art page to see it.
Heat Reworked
Nicely done, Springie. 
It's so fun to see an artist's evolution so dramatically displayed!
It's so fun to see an artist's evolution so dramatically displayed!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 8 Jan 2013 04:22
I agree with Chris, such a dramatic change in your work, but that could partly be the change in media as well.
Thanks for the link, Springie.
I think it's fun to see the difference in quality of a persons work as they improve over they years. I'd like to think it gives them the encouragement to continue with it and strive to improve to the best of their ability.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 8 Jan 2013 08:37
It looks great! I love the way you've reworked Joe's face, especially!
Now, I don't suppose you'd be able to rework all of the other Inhibitions pics, would you?
UGHHHHH filters are on.... I think I belonged to DA before but honestly it's been a long time...forget anything about signing on
Originally posted by Transmute Jun Now, I don't suppose you'd be able to rework all of the other Inhibitions pics, would you?Heh, I second that. Heat reworked, Springie, does show how much more skills you have now than five years ago! Gatchgirl, I think you were "Feathershuriken" at DA -maybe you can request your password be emailed to you?
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