Hello all, Does anyone know where I can get the blueprints to the God Phoenix? It would help me a lot with the rewrite of the puppy episode. I have read a lot of the rewrites and reworking of "A Critical moment for the Science Ninja Team. They are all amazing. Most of them fall into the comedy realm. Please correct me if I'm wrong but, the heart of the challenge is to stay within the guide lines of the story. While, at the same time, eliminating the WTF? moments. I have been studying our main character, Joe, a lot for this rewrite and have figured out a few things about the Condor. I have been watching the ADV Gatchaman episodes, Japanese with subtitles for this. Joe is perceived as a rock. Thanks to the great animators for Gatchaman he really isn't. Joe is normally very closed. But when he does emote you can see it on his face.It may be only 1 or 2 frames but it is there. Joe is very touch sensitive. If Joe really wants to drive a point home he completes it with touch. Jinepi gets a lot of this. Also, the easiest way way to get Joe to drop his mask is with touch. Jun is, really good at doing this to him. Nambu is the only one on the team that can pull Joe's strings with his voice. I really wanted to post all the pictures I'm referencing in this post but I'm still working out how to do that. Any feedback would be very helpful.

Hi Dragon. For a bluepint of the ship, try Jason's site. Of course now I can't find my reference. I believe it's www.battleoftheplanets.net. There's also Wendy's site, Home of the White Shadow.

You have good insight into the Condor -I look forward to reading your version, Dragonsbain! Tatsunokofan had once posted some diagrams just of the God Phoenix's bridge, in this thread: http://www.gatchamania.net/thread.php?postid=43510 But the images are gone now. Someone here might have copies saved, but if I recall, they mostly just showed the seating arrangements and were only of the bridge. To the best of my knowledge, there is no complete diagram of the interior of the God Phoenix -just the brief glimpses we get in episodes when they're shown going to their g-machines or to the missile bays. There is this cut-away, but it doesn't show a lot. (Sorry it's small -I couldn't find it any larger-sized) Wendy's "Home of the White Shadow" site has been down since early March, though it's supposed to come back once it's been moved. You can still find it with this link, but it doesn't have any blueprints. It has lots of other useful stuff though. http://web.archive.org/web/20090501045442/http://www.chronicsite.com/gatchaman/

Thanks for all the info Becky and Iborgia88. It's real important to me to get the characters and mecha right. Considering I don't know any of the original script writers, I can only study the episodes. I luv my IPad for watching the episodes. You can study all of episodes second by second.

Dragonsbain, I thought this was an interesting observation: "Joe is very touch sensitive. If Joe really wants to drive a point home he completes it with touch. Jinepi gets a lot of this. Also, the easiest way way to get Joe to drop his mask is with touch. Jun is, really good at doing this to him. Nambu is the only one on the team that can pull Joe's strings with his voice." Now I am going to have to go back & look at the BotP episodes to see if the same holds true for Jason. Julie K.

Let us know your observations, Julie!

You have a very good insight of Joe's character, Dragonsbain! I can't wait to see what you'll come up with!

Hello all, Jublke: I want to see what you come up with. They did change Joe's character for BOTP.

Hello all, I finally figured out the picture thing. Now I can show you what I'm talking about. The first set is Nambu and Joe from "Hell's Speed Race" http://www.photoshop.com/accounts/dc86bed7f9624daeac3f80d053418bc0/px-assets/7bb9e5d5d2ea43a5974eba5dfc9362dd 2 frames later http://www.photoshop.com/accounts/dc86bed7f9624daeac3f80d053418bc0/px-assets/f1075f65d4eb4280820c9b2040b0f89e Now on to what Jun seems to be able to do. These are both from "Firebird vs. Fire Eating Dragon. http://www.photoshop.com/accounts/dc86bed7f9624daeac3f80d053418bc0/px-assets/69ab8c482b7a4509988cfe0ceba35249 Then the very next frame. http://www.photoshop.com/accounts/dc86bed7f9624daeac3f80d053418bc0/px-assets/fe4c2f374a7949a399238f5777f98ad3 The same basic thing happens between Joe and Jun in GatchII when Joe returns. Ok this is just a great picture from " Revenge! The Whale Operation" http://www.photoshop.com/accounts/dc86bed7f9624daeac3f80d053418bc0/px-assets/48615c2284d9490aa6fbf0e18490c369 Here is a nice example of Joe getting his point across with touch. This is from the Ibukuron episode. http://www.photoshop.com/accounts/dc86bed7f9624daeac3f80d053418bc0/px-assets/1a625c2b4a0d4a1e8f8bb08df8ae62f3 I hope these illustrate the points. Be well.

Interesting - Joe always struck me as being very tactile, ever when he is shown leaning against a wall , he is often seen twirling his gun or with a shuriken like he was using them to center or focus his thoughts. In many of the fics he is portrayed to have a very sensual and seductive side but mostly on his terms, (a need to control himself, situation and outcome) this, then would be reversed if someone touches him (in the case of Jun) thus revealing another side to him, perhaps vulnerable/wounded or showing cracks in his armour.(Joe struck me as having a certain need for control even if others do not perceive his action like that, perhaps because he did not have that level of control when his parents were killed) (even the Condor needs a hug ) Perhaps Nambu has a authoritarian or parental voice, appealing to the soldier or the child within Joe

Even the COndor needs a hug... that's perfect, Dragonsbain! But seriously, you make some very good points. These are some great insights!

Littlewolf: Bingo!! You got it. I really want to fully explain my thoughts about Joe, but I'm saving it for the episode rewrite. Everyone can disagree with me if they want to but, I always thought that Jinpei saved Joe when they had to Bird Missile Crescent Coral. If you watch it frame by frame it LOOKS like Joe is on the edge of a full fledged sob before Jinpei starts speaking. I say sob and not cry because... Oh,heck I'll just post the picks. One last question. What was Ken's mothers name? Thank-you everybody for all your help.

Originally posted by Dragonsbain One last question. What was Ken's mothers name?

In the original it was never stated. However, many use Sayuri which is the name that she was given in the OAVs. I'd say, feel free to use what you wish. BTW -- love your character insights. Can't wait to read your story.

Thanks amethyst. Now I can finish the rewrite.

Hello everybody, I just submitted Chapter 1 to Gatchafanfic. Hopefully it will be accepted.

It's up. It's just Chapter 1. I'll get the rest up as soon as possible.

That's great! Could you post a link here so we can find it more easily?

Lovely news, Dragonsbain!

Good to hear, Dragonsbain!

Here is the link: http://www.gatchfanfic.com/viewstory.php?sid=1293 Enjoy and comment.

Ok everybody. Chapter 2 is up. This is the one I'm most nervous about. Read and comment.

Chapter 3 is done. I've tried to give Jun her dignity back. I'm to the point in the episode where the factor goes off the charts. I hope you are all enjoying this. Please read and comment.

It makes me very happy to see Joe getting far better emergency medical care from his teammates than he did in the episode itself! Thank you for that. Sounds like you, unfortunately, have some personal experience to draw on for this -and that you are a big Rush fan!

Thanks Iborgia88. Chapters 4 and 5 is more of the medical stuff. I really thought they fell short in the episode on Joe's treatment. Also the fact that it takes a lot of people to keep the team going. Also I hated the way Jun was written in that scene. Nambu also gets shortchanged. He is a extremely smart guy. A centerfuge? Really. He can get, just about, get anyone on Earth to help him. I've been a Rush fan since 1978. That is the year I bought my first Rush album, Fly by Night, with my allowance. Enjoy and please comment.

You're right, Dragonsbain! This episode lacked explanations at some points, and even proper attribution of certain characters' dignity! It's so good having you rewriting it whilst giving it its deserved standard, and it really shows that you're writing out of experience and from the heart! Looking forward to read more of this fic ... plus many other fics which I'm longing to find the time to read out of a huge, pending pile!

Thanks Gatchamarie. I have already submitted the next chapter. Two days ago. I guess everyone got bit by the writing bug. I'm glad you are enjoying it.

Chapter 4 and 5 are up for your reading enjoyment.

Hey everyone. The rewrite seems to be going to a weird place. I need someone that I can bounce a radical idea off of. I guess that would be a beta writer. Sorry. I've never used one before. So if someone is up for being my sounding board just answer this post. Thanks much

I'll do it for you. Just send it over. I am loving your version of this episode. The idea of keeping Joe talking by having him sing is ingenious.

Thanks Becky. I am flattered and humbled. I'm on a long security shift today through tomorrow. So by Sunday night you shall receive the text.

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Hello all, Sorry for the long wait. Chapter 6 is up. It took me so long to figure out exactly where to stick that missile fragment. I put it where all the changes will be emotional, not physical. I almost submitted the chapter five times. This one I finally let go. I also gave Joe a few more injuries. This way he won't be trying to get out of bed. Also big thanks to Becky who got me over a big hurdle. Enjoy and Comment.

Thanks for the information, Dragonsbain! I'll definitely add your Chapter with my reading priorities as soon as these couple of days pass by!

Hello all, Hopefully, I will finish the battle scene this weekend. I want to thank everyone for the continuted support and feedback for this story. Especially since I've gone so far off canon as far as Nambu is concerned. Be well all.