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Last post by UnpublishedWriter 2 May 2011 16:46
I think that is good news. Hopefully we won't get any terrorist strikes in his name trying to martyr him.
I've been listening to the President on TV, talking about it.
I confess I never thought he'd be found! It's been nearly 10 years -I'd figured he die of natural causes out there, while still in hiding.
Originally posted by lborgia88 I confess I never thought he'd be found! It's been nearly 10 years -I'd figured he die of natural causes out there, while still in hiding.Yeah, I've often felt that he had already died of natural causes and Al queda buried him in a cave somewhere and kept us on a wild goose chase while laughing at us. Hopefully this will bring us close to an end.
UnpublishedWriter
Gatchamaniac
posted 1 May 2011 22:21
I'd have preferred capture and trial. "This is how WE do things."
And our judge would keep control of the courtroom, so that the guy couldn't bluster and posture.
Alive, he can't be a martyr. He could sit on his ass and rot.
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 1 May 2011 23:48
Amethyst thats the first thing I thought of when I saw the news. It actually would have been better if he fell out of grace with his own people first, gone to trial for his crimes and faced justic for those he's harmed- then him being dead wouldn't have mattered as much to them. One goes another takes his place....
My personal preference is to see him dead. There is no point trying to bring him to justice, he is too dangerous an individual to keep alive long enough for a trial. Its fair to say you would not need one anyway since we all know what he did and he even confessed to the crimes he committed.
So whats the point?
Well done to those brave men and women who brought justice to the thousands killed in that scums name.
Good Riddance to him...I think he'd be a martyr to the terrorists no matter which way he went...I'm just glad he's gone.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 May 2011 03:00
I'm one who would normally opt for a just trial but, when thinking things out, apart from also taking into account all the past, and innocent bloodshed under his own will, I think he would have ended up executed just as in Saddam Hussein's case ... so, Bin Laden will always be a martyr in his followers' eyes, and I so hope, whilst echoing Amethyst's and Ebony's words, that this will not give rise to any further repurcussions! This is surely a blow for the Al Qaeda group, but he certainly wasn't alone, even if he were the mastermind! I'm just capable of continously praying for peace!
This way it is final with no drawn out trial to further upset his victims' families.
Regardless of how many people will now pray in his name as a martyr, those families will sleep better tonight knowing justice was done for their loved ones.
I'm normally not one who is joyful at the loss of a life, but last night when I heard the news, I almost broke into a chorus of "Ding-Dong the Witch is Dead". Yes, I know he was male, but he's been such an evil shadow hanging over the world for the last decade that it seemed somehow appropriate.
I am concerned that this will set off a whole new round of terrorist activity, in his name, but that is a chance we take in this post-9/11 world. I'd call it a calculated risk, and one worth taking to know that one of the worst mass-murderers of all time is permanently buried at the bottom of the sea.
Good ridance, and may he get what he truly deserves in the afterlife.
He may be dead but there are still bad people on the world who is still terrorizing and bloacking Peace
I have feeling that the death of Osama Bin Laden is to go form more violence in the Middle East
or
Can it be the first step toward world peace?
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 2 May 2011 06:44
One thing I found interesting was that Obama said, "After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body."
Wait a minute.... After a firefight? So... they had the firefight and THEN killed him? Maybe it was a Freudian slip? I don't know...
My guess is that he meant "During a firefight...".
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 2 May 2011 07:14
Although I guess now they're saying that Bin Laden was shot through the left eye. That smacks of a close range shot. Perhaps it *was* after. And they he was 'buried at sea'? No official pictures of proof that the guy is dead?
Conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day with this one.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 May 2011 09:41
That was my thought as well TJ. There is no absolute proof, one way or another. Only those involved with the fighting know what they saw, and I gather there was a live broadcast to some "higher" official, so that person could say they saw the body. But as we know people can be masters of disguise.
Another piece of news I heard, there will ALWAYS be another to take the firsts place, so I don't believe this is an end.
UnpublishedWriter
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 May 2011 10:04
There could be a body, and it could make the rounds as if this were the 19th Century, and conspiracy theorists would still spew their crap.
I saw a headline that said DNA tests confirmed it was bin Laden.
BTW, the burial at sea was apparently in accordance with Islamic law.
I'm thankful to have woken up to no news of retaliation (not to say that it still won't happen).
I'm glad he is gone. Like Cep said, a trial would have been a waste of time and money, but it would have also open up the possibility of more people being put at risks. I don't know that any judge can control an extremist.
To echo a friend from high school, and Vodka, this is a triumph, but men and women from around the world are still putting themselves in danger fighting other terrorists and extremists. The time to celebrate will be when they are all home.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 May 2011 11:40
No the burial at sea was done because no country was willing to take (claim) his body.
What was done in accordance to Islamic law, was he was buried within 24 hours.
Originally posted by clouddancer No the burial at sea was done because no country was willing to take (claim) his body.I can see that. It opens it up for extremist on both sides to go after where the body is buried/kept/stored. As for UW's comment on conspiracy theories because of the "lack" of body, she's spot on. Look at the Birther movement. Discounting two legal documents on Obama's birthplace, and producing as there evidence a foreign birth certificate that is more easily forged. One piece of "evidence" they have one their websites is the fact that Obama and his sister were born in two different hospitals. That's not uncommon. My brother and I were born in two different hospitals. Same state, same town, different doctors, different hospital privileges. Nothing can stop conspiracy theories. Although, if we could resurrect Earl Warren, I'm sure he'd give it a try.
But it is hard to even know if it is his body the news always have somting to hide from the public eye
I honest do not beleive that Bin Laden die it happen to quickly but it is sad that United States spends millions of dolars to just kill one person
when someone can easily take Bin Laden's place
I think we need more prrof like DNA testng
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 May 2011 14:28
Vodka, DNA testing was done on the body and I am hearing the test has proven it was Bin Laden. But tests can be altered, just like pictures can. I suspect there are always going to be some (a lot?) of people who do not believe what they are told, and will bring up theories on how he is alive and living somewhere in the world.
UnpublishedWriter
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 May 2011 14:29
According to a headline I saw, there was DNA testing.
But there are those who wouldn't believe it, even if the corpse was on display in a vulgar disregard for Islamic custom and basic human decency.
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 May 2011 15:17
Working in DC, I can tell you we're all dancing, but wary of what happens next. The question is, what will the cells and No.2 now No1 guy do? Obama could have had a 'If they kill me this is what you do' order for the cells.
Keep your eyes open.
UnpublishedWriter
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 May 2011 16:46
A man opens fire on soldiers and is killed. I don't see how that makes his death 'too easy.' Especially when they had to find him, first.
And they used multiple methods to identify the body.
http://www.charter.net/news/read.php?rip_id=%3CD9MVE07G1%40news.ap.org%3E&ps=1018
http://www.charter.net/news/read.php?rip_id=%3CD9MVEQIG0%40news.ap.org%3E&ps=1018
He's dead.
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