A few weeks ago we got into a side discussion of cross-overs on a thread, and now I can't find. This list is from memory. Please feel free to add your favorite cross-over or pimp your own! Cross-Overs well worth reading: From Becky: BotP with Scooby Doo Jason Meets Scooby Doo BotP with Star Trek: Enterprise Faith of the Heart BotP/OAV Series From CathRL: BotP with Thunderbirds Disaster in the South Pacific From UW BotP with Law & Order: SVU Mala's Game Note that this story is not for young children and you must be registered at Gatchfanfic to read it. From TJ: BotP with Gatchaman (and a hint of Austin Powers) International Birds of Mystery

From Evangelina BOTP/Gatchaman No Swearing Allowed

SJ has written at least one cross-over. The one I can remember was a CSI one, posted at the old Clubhouse. I wonder if it was posted at FF.net as well. I will have to go check. Ahhh, here it is: What Part of No ....

I've read the ones by Ebonyswanne and SJ, I'll definitely have to read the suggestions you made too Amethyst.

Thanks Pufles, I forgot about Ebony's! From Ebonyswanne Gatchaman/BotP Ghosts of the past (part 1) Any idea on when we might see part 2, Ebony?

I can definitely recommend Cathrl's crossover - it's a favorite of mine! UW's is another great one - very intense reading though!

I just find crossovers to be fun to write. They're the results of a lot of 'What If?'

What I love about this fandom is that it has opened me up to exploring original characters and cross-overs. While writing in the HP fandom there was no need for it. The canon was large enough that most exploring could be done with what was there: characters that were introduced but not fully developed. The canon for this fandom is more limited, thereby creating more opportunities for writers to explore outside of it but still within (does that make sense), which gives us more growth as writers.

I really enjoy reading crossovers, but I don't think I could write them. Although, in some ways I do since my AU crosses over with other shows I watched as a child. Anderson's company got its name from the company Macgyver worked for, the Phoenix Foundation. Thus Macgyver became an agent who works for Anderson and does some early agent field missions and training with the team. Anyone remember the TV show Emergency? The doctors from that show became apart of my AU, and the boy's from CHIP's also made an appearance, for a while. I also enjoyed the show JAG so those officers show up when ever legal advice is required. But I suspect those are not TRUE crossovers, only taking one or two characters and dropping them into my AU.

Originally posted by clouddancer Anyone remember the TV show Emergency? The doctors from that show became apart of my AU, and the boy's from CHIP's also made an appearance, for a while. I also enjoyed the show JAG so those officers show up when ever legal advice is required.

Yeah, Emergency was one of my favorites. I also loved JAG. Watched CHiPs every Sunday night, but never got into like I did Emergency. FF.net has some really good Emergency fanfiction that I've been reading. Like this fandom, it has a lot of writers that grew up in the 70's.

You know, the funny thing is, I never thought of 'within Gatchaman' being 'crossovers' (i.e. Gatch/BOTP or other similar fics) until you guys started referring to those fics that way. Generally I've always avoided crossovers (meaning Gatch or BOTP and something completely outside the Tatsunoko realm) because they're very difficult to read if you don't know the other side of the crossover. So you're limiting your audience to people who are familiar with both properties. That being said, I wrote my one crossover because Springie and I were getting silly on IM one night and a whole bunch of ideas were tossed out... so many that the fic was begging to be written! And so I did. But I know that one doesn't get many reads, because to actually understand it, you have to be familiar with at least the first Austin Powers movie, and not everyone is. Sometimes I feel badly because I don't read a lot of crossovers, but that's because I don't know anything about the other half of the crossover. I've tried it on occasion, but it always leaves a bad taste in my mouth when I'm innundated with characters that are 'supposed' to be familiar, yet I know nothing about them. So I think it's a tricky business... you've got to understand up front that the audience will be limited to those familiar with both properties. Of course, with Gatch/BOTP, this isn't really a problem, which is another reason I'm surprised to think of it as a 'crossover'.

TJ, your reasons are part of the reason I bring the characters from other shows into my AU. That way I do not need to introduce a whole new world to my readers only a few characters and their traits, which I feel is easier to do.

Originally posted by Transmute JunGenerally I've always avoided crossovers (meaning Gatch or BOTP and something completely outside the Tatsunoko realm) because they're very difficult to read if you don't know the other side of the crossover. So you're limiting your audience to people who are familiar with both properties.

TJ, I used to think that was true. Except I read your and thought it quite funny, but I've never seen the Austin Power's films. Loved Cath's Disaster in the South Pacific even though I had to look up what Thunderbirds was (me, I see Thunderbirds and I think T-Bird, car). I've never seen it, don't know anything about it. I think it could speak to the quality of the writers who can bring in the elements and introduce them quickly enough that reader feels drawn in without dumbing it down. Does that make sense?

Originally posted by Transmute Jun Sometimes I feel badly because I don't read a lot of crossovers, but that's because I don't know anything about the other half of the crossover. I've tried it on occasion, but it always leaves a bad taste in my mouth when I'm innundated with characters that are 'supposed' to be familiar, yet I know nothing about them. So I think it's a tricky business... you've got to understand up front that the audience will be limited to those familiar with both properties.other reason I'm surprised to think of it as a 'crossover'.

That's exactly the way I feel about crossovers, at least until I'd find one which really appeals to me, especially when I'd be familiar with, or better know in depth all the characters of the different universes! This has just lately happened to me with Becky's "The Hour Glass": http://www.gatchfanfic.com/viewstory.php?sid=1282, a BotP/House crossover! I never thought I'd enjoy reading a crossover this much, but then I'm also biased since it deals with two universes I'm very interested in, again coming to the same conclusion that one has to be very familiar with both halves!

I've read and enjoyed crossovers where I know nothing or very little about the other half being "crossed." I guess in such cases, I'm seeing the unfamiliar characters more as OCs than anything else though, and I probably don't get as much out of such crossovers as someone would who knows both halves well, as my attention will mostly be focused on the Gatch/BOTP characters that I know.

Originally posted by lborgia88 I guess in such cases, I'm seeing the unfamiliar characters more as OCs than anything else though, and I probably don't get as much out of such crossovers as someone would who knows both halves well, as my attention will mostly be focused on the Gatch/BOTP characters that I know.

That is what I felt as well when reading some crossovers. And then others, such as Cathrl's, drew me into the other world. It took her story to remind me the Thunderbirds was a show I had watched a few times when I lived in England.

What I know about Thundersbirds is pretty much entirely from reading Cathrl's crossover -several Tracy brothers (whose names I can't always keep track of), each with their own area of specialization, all secretly in an "International Rescue" team, their base hidden on the island where they live. I really enjoyed her "Disaster in the South Pacific" too, even though I've never seen Thunderbirds. It's a good story and the familiar BOTP characters were enough to draw me in to it, even if I didn't know the Tracy brothers at all.

Originally posted by lborgia88 It's a good story and the familiar BOTP characters were enough to draw me in to it, even if I didn't know the Tracy brothers at all.

I thought the same thing. I think one of the reasons it worked is she matched the two teams up by interests which helped to establish the characters in the unfamiliar series. I'd be willing to bet that if she posted it in a Thunderbirds fandom, those unfamiliar with BotP would catch on for the same reasons.

Thanks for your kind words, Marie! It depends on the crossover for me. I didn't like the Austin Powers movies, but I loved the crossover fic because it was genuinely funny. I try to at least read them and reserve judgement.

You're more than welcome, Becky!

Originally posted by Becky Rock I didn't like the Austin Powers movies, but I loved the crossover fic because it was genuinely funny.

My knowledge of the Austin Powers movies is that they are a sexually-toned spoof of James Bond movies (which I've not seen either), but just knowing that helped me to understand the story. Did I catch everything, no probably not, but it didn't affect enjoyment. Now, to juxtapose that I love the HP books and am also a huge Star Wars fan (with a preference to the original trilogy). I know an HP writer, very talented, who wrote and HP/SW crossover. I couldn't read it, it didn't work. I think I saw both universes as so large in themselves that I couldn't see them blending. Of course it could have also been that she wrote the story to be light Snape/Palpitine slash and that just didn't work either (I do read slash, but am very particular about it).

I think one thing that's important for crossovers is one fandom has to be the 'home' one. The story has to center on that one. The other fandom has to fit in in a way that doesn't too drastically change the home one. I will admit to not always following that rule.

Originally posted by amethyst I know an HP writer, very talented, who wrote and HP/SW crossover. I couldn't read it, it didn't work. I think I saw both universes as so large in themselves that I couldn't see them blending.

I'm having a hard time seeing it too. Did she make it such that the Jedi knights are the "wizards and witches" of their universe and that what they call "the force" is what's called "magic" in the HP universe? If that were the case, maybe I could buy it...

I know I"m a little behind the posts here but Emergency was one of my very favorite shows. In fact when they took it off of afternoon TV, Battle of the Planets quickly took its place. Of course there was still room for Bionic Woman and Six Million Dollar Man, Ultraman and Speed Racer at that time. Ahh, the TV memories of growing up. Amazing how the title of a TV show will take you back to that moment in your life and the memories flood forth. I do love my TV.

If I remember right, there was talk somewhere that Joe as a cyborg was based on the Six Million Dollar Man. I wonder what he would cost now? The Trilion Dollar Man?

Originally posted by Becky Rock If I remember right, there was talk somewhere that Joe as a cyborg was based on the Six Million Dollar Man. I wonder what he would cost now? The Trilion Dollar Man?

Depending upon his HMO, they might only cover half of him this days. Will that be the right side, or the left? Arms or legs? Sorry about the eye pal, you'll just have to live with the glass one until we get better funding.

That's right. Bionics would be considered experimental, even if 50 miliion people had bionic something.

Speaking of bionics, we teasingly call my mom the bionic grandma. She's had so many surgeries, she sets off the metal detectors at the airport.

Has anyone done a Gatch/ X-Men crossover? It just seems kinda natural...

Thought about it - surprise Jason! Wolverine's your Dad and his other son (I think his name is Dakar?) is out to kill you! Never saw the light of day. I just recently read a crossover of X-Men and Star Trek Next Generation written several years ago. Wasn't bad.