Someone suggested to me that since we spent so much time taking off Dr. Nambu's facial hair, how about we try it on some of the otehr characters? I didn't have to work too hard for Joe: Tatsunoko did it for me! Joe with a Red Impulse mustache. I don't think this improves Ken too much... makes him look slimy... What do you think for this guy? Does it make him more approachable? Okay, I know my Photoshopping sucks. Let's see someone do a better job!

OMG...NAY!! Nay!! And Zark is gonna give me nightmares! Oh wait, he already does without the mustache! You've given me some makeover ideas, though...mwahahahahaa...

OOPS! Double post!

Oh goody! Ideas!!!!!

Ken doesn't really have a 'moustache' face. Joe might be able to handle the right sort of facial hair. Just not sure what it could be.

I won't be much help because I prefer most men without. There are very few men that I think look better with and those are the ones that I'm so used to seeing them with it that they look weird without it (yeah, Nambu falls into that category). However, I do also see the benefit of it for men. A man with a baby-face can make himself look older, or at least his age by adding a bit (most likely one of the reasons that Joe used it in his disguise). BTW -- Anyone watching the NLCS? Buster Posey looks like he should still be in high school, but I wouldn't put facial hair on him, right now they young look works for him; makes it easy to underestimate the rookie.

LOL Zark needs sideburns too! There's an episode of Gatch F where Ken is blonde and Joe has a huge beard. Ken definitely doesn't look right in that pic with a moustache though. Too young a face, I think. Would anyone care to stick a moustache on OAV Ken? I wonder how much difference the shorter hair would make?

Great idea, TJ -I see you've started the fun! I will do some photoshopping soon...

Originally posted by meridianday There's an episode of Gatch F where Ken is blonde and Joe has a huge beard.

Ooh, found it -Gatch F, ep. 34. I'd forgotten all about this one when we were saying that character in ep. 96 looked like a blond Ken. It's a great episode for a discussion of facial hair though, as Joe and Ryu both have some.

Seeing these pics, I agree with UW that Joe could handle the right type of facial hair!! Ken is a complete "NO", and Zark ... no comment, although I seeing that pic of his, with the moustache, you've made, TJ! Great find of ep. 34 of Gatch F, LB! ... I've completely forgotten about it, also! Strange thing, but even Ryu seems to handle well that beard! I've never been able to use Photoshop, so I'm eager to see more pics! Could there be any chance to see one of our ladies with a beard!!! ... you know, maybe because she has to work undercover in a circus as "The Lady with the Beard"!!! TJ ... I'll let Sylvie Pandora in your hands !!

Uh... no..... No Pandora facial hair pics.... Oh... okay... The Zark pic was done in about 3 seconds. I cut a mustache of Nambu's out of a pic and dropped it onto Zark! I figured that was the amount of effort Zark was worth. Thanks for the Gatch F pics, LB! I had forgotten about those as well, although I had considered putting a beard on 'Farmer Ken' from a different Gatch F episode.

I think I would put that mustache UNDER the 6 lights on the Zark picture. About where he is rubbing. I know I am putting too much thought into that picture. It is bad enough seeing Zark, let alone trying to decide how to make it look less ridiculous. TJ, the picture you show of Ken with a mustache IS wrong, I suspect though it maybe the picture you choose though. I could be wrong though since in the first series he is so "baby-ish" looking. In the second and third series Ken has hardened and it may look better on him. *shrug*

I know my pictures aren't that great, CD! They were designed to get others to do better, certainly not to showcase my own (lack of) talent! Feel free to improve....

If I had photoshop, I might try, if I could find the time. If I get pokes then I guess I will have to stop critic-ing your pictures.

Feel free! I know they're pretty lame...

Thanks for the Pandora one, TJ! Such a neat find, that of her looking into her compact!

well, it definitely makes him look older.

Did some experimenting with Joe (and a lazy-ass job of blending the changes into the background!).

Okay,. there's just something *wrong* with the short hair. Almost like his face is too 'tough' for the rest of him? I don't know... The one with the full beard... he's reminding me of a young Obi-Wan!

Originally posted by lyon well, it definitely makes him look older.

And rather sinister. In a Star-Trek-like parallel universe, this could be Ken's evil counterpart. Definitely an edgier look for the Eagle.

Originally posted by Transmute Jun Uh... no..... No Pandora facial hair pics.... Oh... okay...

You are evil!

Originally posted by Transmute Jun Okay,. there's just something *wrong* with the short hair. Almost like his face is too 'tough' for the rest of him? I don't know... The one with the full beard... he's reminding me of a young Obi-Wan!

Jedi Joe? You could be on to something there... I agree that the long hair does soften up the angularity and harshness of Joe's features -he really looks different when it's gone.

Okay, Obi Wan Joe. I think he looks a bit more "biblical" than "Star Wars." I should have used a pic with a light saber...

If Joe looks 'biblical'... does this mean that they're going to make a giant lava mecha with his bearded face?

Originally posted by lborgia88 Did some experimenting with Joe (and a lazy-ass job of blending the changes into the background!).

I had started a fic a long time ago where Jason had an identical twin who wore his hair shorter and I always wondered what he'd look like. Now I know!

Joe with the full beard looks very "kinder, gentler condor" to me. Especially when he's dressed as a young Moses.

I think the short hair makes Joe appear much softer. Maybe before he switched to his hard, edgy, angry attitude. Obviously I am one of the few, if not the only one, who does not mind the short haired look on our boys. Not that I mind the long hair either.

CD, I think I agree with you. While I like the original version better, I do think Joe looks better with short hair than with facial hair. Again, though, I do think it is personal preference. Becky, do you still have that story? You should share it with us if you do, even if it is incomplete and abandoned. Who knows, maybe some comments might bring it back to life.

Joe looks like a monk! LOL he does suit a beard more than the Eagle.

I tried the same thing with Ken (though I let him keep a few hair wisps).

lol ken with a beard just looks strange, but the short hair sorta works! I dont mind Joe with a beard though but prefer the long hair.

You're making me crack with laughter, girls! And Ken with the short hair is so reminding me of the OAV Ken! My two cents ... I like them more with long hair! Always had something for men with long hair, even if my DH always had it short!

The short hair for Ken works... but it makes his face look fat! The Ken with the beard reminds me of a young (before he got fat, circa TNG Season 2) Commander Riker!

I like the last one of Ken. You are correct TJ, it does remind me of Commander Riker, but I think of all of them the last one matures his features. In the image with the narrow mustache I can really see an echo of RI.

Originally posted by Transmute Jun The Ken with the beard reminds me of a young (before he got fat, circa TNG Season 2) Commander Riker!

Originally posted by clouddancer In the image with the narrow mustache I can really see an echo of RI.

Ken tries out some red uniforms... (Picard's got a new "Number One".) (Like father, like son?)

Great work, LB! There's an RI junior there!

OMG... those work! Too scary!!!!!

Oh they definitely work, LB! Especially love that bottom picture! *snicker*

Originally posted by amethyst CD, I think I agree with you. While I like the original version better, I do think Joe looks better with short hair than with facial hair. Again, though, I do think it is personal preference. Becky, do you still have that story? You should share it with us if you do, even if it is incomplete and abandoned. Who knows, maybe some comments might bring it back to life.

It was a crossover (Who? Me and a crossover?) with Cartoon Network's Totally Spies. Jake had been made mute in the car accident that killed their parents. I ended up morphing Jake into Todd in Gatchamaniacs.

Originally posted by Transmute Jun The short hair for Ken works... but it makes his face look fat! The Ken with the beard reminds me of a young (before he got fat, circa TNG Season 2) Commander Riker!

Yes! For me, third and fourth pic work. The full beard does seem to work better. (I had been thinking that as I contemplated Ken with facial hair. Jonathan Frakes got better looking when he grew the beard.) Still, Ken should have long hair. It could be a bit neater....

Originally posted by gatchamarie Great work, LB! There's an RI junior there!

Maybe in some fic AU-verse, Ken leaves the Science Ninja Team and joins Red Impulse instead (especially after his father's death -they'd be looking for a new pilot).

Originally posted by gatchamarie Jonathan Frakes got better looking when he grew the beard.)

I also think the beard suited him -it lent him some gravitas and made him less overtly a pretty boy. And Riker was supposed to be from Alaska, where (I've heard) beards on men are more common.