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Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 25 Aug 2010 08:39
We all have our favorite episodes, but there are some episodes that seem to have been referenced a lot in fanfic. The Red Impulse/V2 Plan episodes, the Jigokillers, destruction of the Crescent Base... these are ones I know I've used, and others have as well.
What's your favorite episode for fanfic inspiration?
All of those inspire me, TJ, as well.
In the BotP verse- "The Fierce Flowers" and "Invasion of Space Centre" storylines just scream out for more.
The other one that interests me would be "Rage of the Robotoids" as Tyna actually survives in the BotP episode and is revealed to be as much a victim as a villian. It just screams to have the question : did Jason see her again answered!
The episodes referecing G-5's family always interested me. Esp. the one where he goes to visit them. In GoS they not only don't know what he does, he tells them he's there to use up some vacation time, not that he quit! Quite a lot of fanfic possiblities there.
The last episode of GoS, 85) Galactor's Deadly Trap (Pilot Episode #2) (#87 Patogiller, the Triple United Iron Beast), also has huge potential since it's the last of that series. They have an intact underwater base and a war that they seem to be neither winning or losing. And G-4 has met Maria and found out the pain of having to leave someone he cares about behind so as not to put her in danger.
There's a lot of fanfic fodder concerning Ken's Father and Joe's sickness and death...and a lot of between series speculation...
Of course, one of my favorites to spin around is the Koji episode...even thought I hate the slapping scene.
I also did a fic that fit in after the lost shoe episode...that was always an angsty episode (esp. in BOTP when the Chief tells her she is useless to the team without the shoe! OUCH!)
condorcandi
Gatchamaniac
posted 25 Aug 2010 15:48
Still can't believe the Chief SAID that... I prefer Dr. Brighthead's comment that the shoe holds the secret to the transformation and she has to find it before Galactor figures out what he has.
The episode with the poisoned presents, the giant ice statues and the Reindeer Mecha has possibilities. What ever happened to those five boys?
Originally posted by Springie I also did a fic that fit in after the lost shoe episode...that was always an angsty episode (esp. in BOTP when the Chief tells her she is useless to the team without the shoe! OUCH!)
Originally posted by condorcandiStill can't believe the Chief SAID that... I prefer Dr. Brighthead's comment that the shoe holds the secret to the transformation and she has to find it before Galactor figures out what he has.Ah the difference a few years make. From the almost to brutal truth to the need to sugarcoat everything. Given the whole situation, in this instance, I actually prefer the former. Plus it gives us a lot more room to play. Also, in this case, it shows that Anderson does not treat Princess different than he would Mark or Jason and he treats her like a soldier who has lost a valuable piece of equipment, versus a teenage girl who just lost a rather boring shoe.
The episodes that are a big part of Joe's story arc are the ones that tend to get the wheels turning in my head.
I always found the Devil Star in episode 31, "The Plan to Assassinate Dr. Nambu" ("Galaxy Girls" in BOTP) interesting, in that she seemed to leave unanswered questions -especially after learning, in episode 81, that she'd been the fiance of Joe's childhood friend on BC Island, Alan- and there seemed to be just too many "coincidences." In explaining it to myself, I ended up writing a fic.
I also found some Gatch II episodes (16 and 29 in particular) to be inspiring for writing Joe/Jun romance, as they had some interesting "shippy" Joe/Jun interaction -of a kind not seen in the first series!
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 25 Aug 2010 22:02
For me, everything concerning Red Impulse, his mission and his long absence, has potential, together with his family history after his departure! Joe's illness, and the mystery behind his parents' execution, also are interesting enough to target! As is his being a cyborg, and trying to deal with the fact, in Gatch II!
I also like to think how to justify certain abrupt reactions, and hard words said, in various episodes, such as those already mentioned in the Jigokillers episodes, etc. Even the appearances of friends, or family members, from the past of the characters, can trigger a lot of fanfic fodder! Not leaving out the tension found in Gatch F, and the closeness described between Ken and Jun, especially during the Eagle's illness!
And mentioning Gatch F ... it's not a surprise saying that my favorite episode, which inspires me most, is always episode 48 of that last series, where one can come out with any idea for a sequel, trying to answer all the unanswered questions! Had any doubts?!!!
Oooo...and in Gatch F, I really like episode 47, too...that scream from Ken when he thinks Jun is dead is heart wrenching! I just hated when the next scene on the ship is him waking up and she is already there and ok...I wanted to see what happened next!
It also appears that the two of them are really close in the scene where he and Joe are about to fight...I wish I knew what Ken and Jun are thinking right before it happens.
(I'm talking about the part at about 5:47)
Gatch F ep 47 Part 2
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 26 Aug 2010 06:43
You're' right, Springie, that's a great scene! Ken's emotins are wild because of his illness, and it seems that his emotions for Jun might be a little closer to the surface, here.
Everyone has some great suggestions! Okay, what episode is *least* likely to inspire you? For me... I don't know... maybe Neon Giant?
Least inspiring for me is the Gila Monster ep- with only Ken in it, there's no team interaction! I'm not that fond of the Mummy episode either ( the one with the bratty kid)...even though the Mummy mecha scares the hell out of me!
And some of the early ones where the team fights a mecha and saves the day...and that's it...
I don't know...I think Neon Giant has possibilities (even for silly ficcage)...
Originally posted by Springie Oooo...and in Gatch F, I really like episode 47, too...that scream from Ken when he thinks Jun is dead is heart wrenching! I just hated when the next scene on the ship is him waking up and she is already there and ok...I wanted to see what happened next! It also appears that the two of them are really close in the scene where he and Joe are about to fight...I wish I knew what Ken and Jun are thinking right before it happens. (I'm talking about the part at about 5:47) Gatch F ep 47 Part 2Episode 47 is just as strong as episode 48, if not stronger! I admit that I cannot have enough of watching these two episodes together, over and over again! The team's unity, the tension, and the happenings are just beautifully described! Ken's scream you mentioned, as he called out for Jun, was as heart wrenching in the Italian dubs as the original Japanese version! To tell the truth, it's the first time I've heard it in Japanese ... nothing was lost in the effect it always had on me! And, from all the others, who had also collapsed, he had to call out Jun's name in particular ... and, in that way! ... doesn't that tell us something?! If I'm not mistaken, the part before Ken and Joe are going to fight, and in which Jun is thinking to herself, is mainly conversation and thoughts wrapped around the fact that Ken wanted to use the hypershoot as a last resort. Jun knows that he would have died if he had done so, and that's why Joe challenged him ... the Condor wanted to use the hypershoot instead of Ken, him being a cyborg and thinking that he had nothing else to lose. The Eagle didn't accept Joe's offer, saying that the Condor had already sacrificed himself enough and that, if Joe wanted to do so, he had to kill him first! I cannot be precise, right now ... hope this helps a bit! P.S. sorry for not responding immediately ... my computer crashed just as I was going to type down this message!
So, in her mind, she's begging him not to do it, because she loves him? *grin* And he's saying (in his mind) "Jun, I love you, and I'm sorry I can't be with you, but my duty is to save the earth at all costs, even if it means giving up my happiness with you..."
*ahem* excuse my wishful paraphrasing!
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 26 Aug 2010 07:31
That's my wishful thinking, also! But, that's also what I read behind their words!! They could have added one "I love you!" in somebody's mind, though ... you know, being almost the end of the world, or their final battle, or so! It would have made a lot of difference and many of us happy!
Originally posted by Transmute Jun Okay, what episode is *least* likely to inspire you? For me... I don't know... maybe Neon Giant?As much as I like Jinpei and enjoy Jinpei-centric episodes, they're unlikely to inspire me to write Jinpei-centric fics -I like my characters to be older, I guess. This goes for episodes that feature a lot children too, like ep. 36 "Little Gatchamans or ep. 64 "Deadly Christmas Present."
Originally posted by gatchamarie Episode 47 is just as strong as episode 48, if not stronger! I admit that I cannot have enough of watching these two episodes together, over and over again! The team's unity, the tension, and the happenings are just beautifully described!Beautifully depicted too. Maybe it's all the dramatic blue and purple lighting and all the emotions in the scene, but I could just hit pause over and over and stare... It almost doesn't matter if I don't know what they're saying.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 26 Aug 2010 10:33
And, you've made a very good choice of screenshots in order to validate what we're saying!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 26 Aug 2010 12:40
LB, I love the screenshots! Good choices!
And yes, Little Gatchamans... ugh... the only fanfic moment I can think of is Jun berating Ken for not smacking those kids when they were trying to look up her skirt!
Originally posted by Springie Least inspiring for me is the Gila Monster ep- with only Ken in it, there's no team interaction! I'm not that fond of the Mummy episode either ( the one with the bratty kid)I can agree with those, too. Although I do like premise of the BotP version of the Gila Monster ep; it holds ideas for exploration. I just can't get into those episodes enough to really watch them and live with them through an entire fic.
ITA, Gatchamarie! And LB, love those shots...so angsty!
Yeah...Little Gatchamans is one of my least favs, too...
Originally posted by gatchamarieThey really do look like a team that knows each other so very well, and that's about to go into their final battle, and maybe the end of the world, don't they?And, you've made a very good choice of screenshots in order to validate what we're saying!
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 26 Aug 2010 22:19
You're right, LB! I've felt their sense of maturity and increasing unity throughout the whole third series, especially at the end! They really were a family and knew each other inside out! They trusted each other blindly, and that's one thing that helped them confront their destiny!
Ken's last speech to the team before attacking Sosai Z directly was heartbreaking! I could feel his wanting to hug them all but also his interior struggle to try and keep his composure and talk to them as a leader, thanking them for all their past sacrifices and telling them to make just one other effort in order to definitely defeat their enemy ... an action which might have been their last! I wanted to cry when Jinpei clinged to Jun and cried out that he didn't want to die!
Regarding the episodes that do not appeal to me in the sense of this thread, ITA with the "Little Gatchamans" episode and all those episodes that include goofy children or persons who did not have any kind of constructive story around them!
Oh, I had no idea that Ken made such a speech at the end...I need to go back and watch now! *sniff*
ITA about the goofy kid episodes...I usually skip those! And there seems to be a lot of them in Gatch II!
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 27 Aug 2010 06:56
Ken's speech wasn't that long but it had quite an effect on me! Let's say I'm a very sensitive type of person!!
He spoke to them just after having decided that they all had to grip to the G2 vehicle in order to reach Sosai Z's nucleus.
He spoke to them just after having decided that they all had to grip to the G2 vehicle in order to reach Sosai Z's nucleus.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 27 Aug 2010 07:11
Ah yes, if we're talking goofy kid episodes, Pyramid Power is another one... from Gatch II. No fics there, that's for sure!!!!!
Originally posted by Transmute Jun Ah yes, if we're talking goofy kid episodes, Pyramid Power is another one... from Gatch II. No fics there, that's for sure!!!!!Or, for me, that toddler in Gatch II, ep. 5, "Mystery of the Primitive Man Invasion" -I was sort of rooting for the primitive man...
Originally posted by gatchamarie Ken's last speech to the team before attacking Sosai Z directly was heartbreaking! I could feel his wanting to hug them all but also his interior struggle to try and keep his composure and talk to them as a leader, thanking them for all their past sacrifices and telling them to make just one other effort in order to definitely defeat their enemy ... an action which might have been their last! I wanted to cry when Jinpei clinged to Jun and cried out that he didn't want to die!That sounds wonderful -a heart-wrenching kind of wonderful that's only achieved when characters have a deep and rich shared history together -a scene like that, for example, just could never happen early on in the first series, but by Gatch F... so powerful. I would tear up too, for sure. We're fortunate to have you to tell us what's being said in so many Gatch F scenes, gatchamarie!
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 27 Aug 2010 23:57
Originally posted by lborgia88 a scene like that, for example, just could never happen early on in the first series, but by Gatch F... so powerful.ITA with you!
We're fortunate to have you to tell us what's being said in so many Gatch F scenes, gatchamarie!Thanks, LB! Even if I don't know how much is the accuracy of the primary translation from Japanese to Italian in the first place! But, I've found that most of the dialogue, apart from the confusion of names, does make a lot of sense and abide with the scenes and the visual plot! I hope I'll be able to give you more, some day!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 28 Aug 2010 08:37
Originally posted by lborgia88You know, that one crossed my mind right after posting about Pyramid Power!!!!! Although... I *like* the idea of 'de-evolving' people. It worked great on Star Trek: TNG. However Gatchaman II did a fairly lousy job with that particular plotline.Originally posted by Transmute Jun Ah yes, if we're talking goofy kid episodes, Pyramid Power is another one... from Gatch II. No fics there, that's for sure!!!!!Or, for me, that toddler in Gatch II, ep. 5, "Mystery of the Primitive Man Invasion" -I was sort of rooting for the primitive man...
Originally posted by Transmute Jun Although... I *like* the idea of 'de-evolving' people. It worked great on Star Trek: TNG.Isn't that the one where Data ends up telling Picard that he'd been de-evolving into "a lemur or a marmoset"? I remember cracking up from the look on Picard's face. And someone else was turning into a spider IIRC?
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 28 Aug 2010 18:30
Yes... and Deanna was a fish... there were some great lines in that episode! IMHO, if Galactor had done something like that, it would have been a much better story.
Originally posted by Transmute Jun IMHO, if Galactor had done something like that, it would have been a much better story.Especially if some or all of the Ninjas had been affected -great fun imagining what things each of them might de-evolve into!
Originally posted by lborgia88That would make a great fanfiction!Originally posted by Transmute Jun IMHO, if Galactor had done something like that, it would have been a much better story.Especially if some or all of the Ninjas had been affected -great fun imagining what things each of them might de-evolve into!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 29 Aug 2010 14:46
Originally posted by lborgia88 Especially if some or all of the Ninjas had been affected -great fun imagining what things each of them might de-evolve into!In my AU it would probably be the animal Familiar that I connect to them. Mark - would be a bird (probably an Eagle) Jason - I have as a cat (Not sure why that is instead of a dog) Tiny's familiar is an animal I connected to Riga. An animal much like a Tribble from Star Trek. Only it is more "airy", like the fluff from a dandelion. Princess and Keyop I have not found an animal familiar yet. Maybe a bug of some kind for Keyop. Ooooo, a giant Rigan spider? I would be interested in seeing anyone else's suggestions.
Originally posted by clouddancer Jason - I have as a cat (Not sure why that is instead of a dog)Perhaps because cats, unlike dogs, aren't so inclined to follow orders? If I recall, in ep. 2, Ken is shown holding a little turtle -it could be funny if he started de-evolving into a that. Maybe a snake for Joe -I could see him panicking when his arms and legs start disappearing, but then taking some comfort in the fact that he's acquiring venemous fangs. Jun, seeing as how she complains about the bugs Jinpei brings home, ought to de-evolve into an insect of some kind. Jinpei... a primate of some kind -he'd enjoy leaping through the trees as a monkey. Ryu... something aquatic perhaps -maybe a frog?
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Aug 2010 04:06
Those are great ideas LB. I love the monkey/primate idea for Jinpei. It would include his playful personality.
For some reason I just remembered the episode where Nambu and Ryu's brain waves are switched with those of an animal. That is kind of like de-evolving isn't it?
Nambu became an ape and I believe Ryu became a cat and was afraid of the water.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Aug 2010 05:36
Supposing that such a de-evolving weapon could act upon an individual's most hidden fears, like many brain-affecting weapons do, it would be interesting to see, after its effect is over, what might be the animals of which each of the SNT members are mostly afraid, without having ever said anything regarding that kind of phobia to the others!
They could arrive to ridiculous conclusions about each other, especially if the others might become aware that the mighty Joe is afraid of a tiny mouse, hence having been transformed into one! And, someone like Ryu could have been afraid of cats, and, once de-evolved, starts chasing the mouse who wouldn't have been at all happy, afterwards! And, what if Ken and Jun de-evolve in a similar species ... and end up mating, overcome by animal instincts?!!!! Oooo ... I'd love to see their expressions when they return to normal!!!
The only problem would be Jinpei as I don't know whether he could ever be afraid of any kind of animal! Maybe, that would be the greatest surprise!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 30 Aug 2010 07:00
Marie, I love your ideas! And Ken and Jun mating as animals... OMG, that has some serious fanfic fodder!
Wow, I make one comment and it turns into all of this! Amazing...
Wow, I make one comment and it turns into all of this! Amazing...
Originally posted by clouddancer For some reason I just remembered the episode where Nambu and Ryu's brain waves are switched with those of an animal. That is kind of like de-evolving isn't it? Nambu became an ape and I believe Ryu became a cat and was afraid of the water.And Ryu decided Jinpei was a mouse and started chasing him! Even Jinpei got affected, near the end, but I don't think it was ever clear what animal he was becoming like -he just started attacking Joe. Now that I think about it, this reminds me a little of Diinzumo's cartoon series at the Archives, where the team turns into cats.
Originally posted by gatchamarie And, what if Ken and Jun de-evolve in a similar species ... and end up mating, overcome by animal instincts?!!!! Oooo ... I'd love to see their expressions when they return to normal!!!That would be funny, especially if they retained some memories of what they'd been doing! I imagine Ken would be mortified that he'd lost control of himself like that, but Jun at least might be able to regard it as a sign of progress and hope for him!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 30 Aug 2010 09:48
Why is this starting to remind me of some of the strange smut fics I've read on adultfanfiction.net ?
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Aug 2010 11:11
Originally posted by Transmute Jun Why is this starting to remind me of some of the strange smut fics I've read on adultfanfiction.net ?Don't look at me! ... I've never been there!!!
Oh, Marie, you need to check it out. It has one of the most unique collections of fanfics ranging from very good stories to the most outrageous crack fics I've ever read, and some I wish I hadn't.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Aug 2010 11:23
You're getting me quite intrigued, Amethyst!
I would avoid the Scooby-Doo section unless you have a very strong crack-fic tolerance and lots of eye-bleach on hand.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Aug 2010 11:45
Thanks for the tip!!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 30 Aug 2010 12:47
There is definitely some straaaaange stuff on there... but a few gems hidden in. You can find smut fics about pretty much anything you can think of, though.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Aug 2010 13:28
Maybe you can point me/us in the right direction Amethyst and TJ. I too have never really been to adultfanfiction.net. Although I have visited another sister site to Fanfiction.net called fictionpress.com.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 30 Aug 2010 13:55
This is the main index.
http://www.adultfanfiction.net/html-index.php
You may have to navigate through an 'entrance' to verify that you are at least 18.
Take the warnings on stories *very* seriously. There is some strange stuff on this site...
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Aug 2010 15:04
Thanks for the direct link but I was thinking more along the lines of recommending a few of the gems that you found.
In the Gatch fandom, Maddy and Rory have fics there; so do Evangalina and Embyquinn.
In the HP fandom check out: our Madilayn, Ms. Figg, AprilGrey, Idamae for starters. Sorry, but I'm not as familiar with the other fandoms.
One nice thing about AFF is that major fandom's for the site have there own category; after that it is broken down by genre (TV, cartoon, movie, book, anime, video game, etc).
For well written smut from a variety of fandoms, check out www.chaos.sychopanthex.com. These stories have been screen to be sure they are well written and that readers should not need eye-bleach or are wondering about the state of education in the world. Only Gatch stories there are mine and only one is up right now. Need to put the rest there, too.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Aug 2010 15:52
Thank you Amethyst. I may try out some of those although I am not into Harry Potter much so those stories I (may) avoid.
Then again since you recommend them I may give them a try.
Some of those author's may have written in other fandoms, too.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 30 Aug 2010 16:12
We can make recommendations, CD, but it depends what fandoms you'd be interested in reading. I've only read in a few fandoms on there, because many of them don't interest me so much.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Aug 2010 16:28
Thanks TJ, I guess I will just have to find time to do some exploring. I wish I had discovered this site a few months ago so I could have spent the summer looking.
I have been slowly making my way through a long list of things I wanted to look at.
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