It says the number 2 on the shirt, but the face looks like Ken and not Joe. I'm thinking it is Ken, and it's just a mistake with the shirt, but I want to know the facts. http://gatchonline.com/gallery/pictures/039_020.jpg

Ummm? What do you know about the Birdgo site? Obviously Ken and Joe put on the wrong shirts in the morning.

It looks Joe-ish to me, but I see what you're saying. Maybe he's their offspring??? (ok, you seriously have to understand the BirdGo site to get that one!)

No - that's a screenshot from the series, so not fanart. It's definitely Joe - but just a poorly drawn Joe.

It's Joe. Perhaps a little more 'soft' in his facial lines. I believe it's from an early episode, when he tended to be drawn more that way.

I guess I don't understand the Birdgo website. Would you please explain?

Let's just say the fics on BirdGo have all sorts of character pairings.

I wasn't asking about a pairing. I was asking if a pic was Joe or if it was Ken with the wrong shirt on.

the hell. they have one pairing. Ken + Joe. you know how some people look just like their pets? i guess Joe's been hanging out with Ken too long in this screenshot. and yes, it's Joe. the shape of the eyes and that he's wearing his driving gloves gives it away.

I agree that this is truly a screenshot from the beginning of the series! I remember myself thinking how, many a time, Ken and Joe were similarly drawn, sometimes! Joe's features became more distinct, and prominent, as the series went on. In this shot, the eyes, apart from the t-shirt, are definitely those of the Condor!

Yep...that's Joe asking Ken "What kind of man are you? Are you just gonna let her die?" in the Jigokillers ep...he just knocked the crap out of Ken...I'd recognize that anywhere... Somebody drew the corneas too large for Joe...

Thanks for the clarification regarding the exact episode from which this shot was taken, Springie! I knew I have seen it somewhere!

So later in the series than I thought... but yes, Springie, that's it! You're soooo good! I can picture the entire scene now...

I guess that pic is either from Gatchaman II or Gatchaman Fighter then, am I right?

No, he'd be wearing very different civvies if it were a Gatch II or Fighter episode. Springie is right -it's from the first of the Jigokillers episodes (ep. 39) in the first series.

Originally posted by Springie Somebody drew the corneas too large for Joe...

If I recall, didn't we joke about an "intern animator" when TJ recapped episode 31? Joe looked somewhat... different in various places in that episode, rather similar to how he does in this ep. 39 screencap. Maybe the "intern animator" worked on episode 39 too. From ep. 31:

Originally posted by lborgia88 No, he'd be wearing very different civvies if it were a Gatch II or Fighter episode. Springie is right -it's from the first of the Jigokillers episodes (ep. 39) in the first series.

I haven't seen that one yet. Sorry about the mix up. It looked like Ken's face when I first saw the pic, and I wasn't sure who it was supposed to be, and that's why I asked my fellow forum members since I'm still kind of a n00b. I understand now after seeing your pics though, Iborgia88.

That's okay, Allen. We're always happy to answer questions and educate people about our favorite topic!

holy shit. i just realised that's a BIRDGO screencap. who is gatchonline and why are they stealing my pictures?

Gatchonline is Carolyn Kaufman's site (she goes by "Katsesama" here). http://gatchonline.com/versions/versions.htm

the name sounds vaguely familiar. but not really. hmmm. turns out they only have like, three or four of birdgo's screencaps which is totally forgiveable. false alarm.

I'm pretty sure she's part of Birdgo too, Lyon.

other option: It's Thunderbird in civie mode...

well, i'm a little particular about the screencap images hosted there because I'm the one that took the time to grab them off my DVDs and post them to the birdgo site. a member of birdgo (may it rest in peace) can download every single blessed one of them to a hard drive and fondle them over and over again in the dead of night, but that does not mean i'm okay with that same member sticking them up on THEIR website without asking me (or Sam, but I'd still expect Sam to ask me behind the scenes) for specific permission to do so. i had horrific visions of the entire screencap gallery living on this gatchonline site, which would have launched an email at the authoress to cease and desist immediatement. but like i said, its only a couple of shots and i don't mind that in the slightest. that being said, its still a difference of degree, not kind. the 'caps have the birdgo logo for reason after all.

lyon, if it is just a few images, it's possible that she also screen capped them. If it were more, I'd be worried. Unfortunately, there's not much one can do in such a situation except ask the offending party to remove the caps and hopes he/she agrees. Unless you take the time to frame or something, there is not much to prove it is your labor. The images still belong to Tatsunuko, etc.

Ame. It definitely is a Birdgo 'cap ... it has the BG logo right on it.

Originally posted by SJ_SwanJun Ame. It definitely is a Birdgo 'cap ... it has the BG logo right on it.

Thanks SJ. The picture isn't showing up for me. All I see is the link, and I'll admit to speaking from memory. Still the only thing that lyon really has the right to do, is request the person using it to take it down; if that's important. A disclaimer can also be added to the birdgo screencap page requesting that caps be used for personal use and anyone wanting to use them for other purposes ask permission.