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Last post by Springie 17 Aug 2014 23:24
A couple of people missed the last pic I posted over at the Temp site (and Photobucket took it down)...so I told them I'd post here..
However...we're still having problems with attachments...
I'll post it at soon as I can, girls...
In the meantime, I'll try another pic...
Oh, I wish I could read Japanese!! Something's telling me that Joe is trying to whip up a date for Ken online, without Ken's consent!! I wonder what that musical note is there for, though ... and I like Joe's confident expression!! Maybe, the Condor is listening to online music instead of obeying Ken's orders and joining the others for their training!
P.S. Do not worry, Springie, regarding the missing pic! Thanks a lot for your effort!
My friend who knows Japanese a little said that may be Joe is watching porno too loudly and Ken is expressing his indignation at it and asking about antivirus. But he isn`t sure! 
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 13 Aug 2010 12:10
I was able to translate the comic! here it is....
Ladygalactor777
Boardie
posted 13 Aug 2010 12:19
Originally posted by Transmute Jun I was able to translate the comic! here it is....Ken is pissed because Joe hacked Ken's facebook account & is chatting with Jun.hahahhaha
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 14 Aug 2010 00:24
Many, many thanks, TJ! That explains all!
Bwahahahaha...TJ, that is hilarious!!
Gatchamarie I love your interpretation, too!
And Yul...that is funny! Joe looking up porn! 
It's so much fun to see what you come up with!!
Feel free to put up pics of your own for us to interpret!
It's so much fun to see what you come up with!!
Feel free to put up pics of your own for us to interpret!
Springie
Her Royal Fluffiness...Swan of Swans...
posted 14 Aug 2010 03:16
(edited 14 Aug 2010 03:16)
Here's another... a little darker in nature...
If I match it up with that "Beat up Ken " picture, Joe could have rescued him from Galactor...but it scares me to think about why his pants would be unbuttoned????
If I match it up with that "Beat up Ken " picture, Joe could have rescued him from Galactor...but it scares me to think about why his pants would be unbuttoned????
Hmmm... regarding that first one...
TJ, love your translation...
Just checking, though... you don't actually read Japanese, right?
Still love the translation!
Still love the translation!
Originally posted by Springie If I match it up with that "Beat up Ken " picture, Joe could have rescued him from Galactor...but it scares me to think about why his pants would be unbuttoned????Um... you're worried about his pants being unbuttoned???
Wish I could say the same.....
walks off shaking her head...
Comes back for another peek...
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 14 Aug 2010 03:42
Originally posted by Springie but it scares me to think about why his pants would be unbuttoned????Hmm ... maybe the Condor was inturrepted by his enemies just after unbuttoning his pants during an intimate moment ... and he sweared a bloody revenge! BTW ... that's an awesome pic! Darker than the usual, but very nice! Do you know who's the artist? I might be wrong, but I'm finding the style so similar to that one of Ken in bandages!
Springie, I wondered the exact same thing when I saw the picture.
Although I would not mind helping him finish taking his pants off .... to get to those injuries ..... so I can heal him.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 14 Aug 2010 08:22
Originally posted by green TJ, love your translation... Just checking, though... you don't actually read Japanese, right?Nope! I was waiting for you to help us out on this one!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 14 Aug 2010 08:23
Originally posted by Springie but it scares me to think about why his pants would be unbuttoned????Clearly Joe was just getting to 'the good stuff' with a woman and then discovered she was a Devilstar. 'Nuff said.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 14 Aug 2010 08:49
Now that is a good thought TJ.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 14 Aug 2010 08:56
Originally posted by clouddancer Now that is a good thought TJ.The simplest explanation is always the most likely.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 14 Aug 2010 08:59
And, as you know, simple things appeal to me.
Ladygalactor777
Boardie
posted 14 Aug 2010 10:52
Originally posted by Springie Here's another... a little darker in nature...tha's an awesome picture of Joe I will love to see him on Condor uniform great job & I also see blood! nice! you are good!
I didn't draw that one, LG...it's from Sayuri's site (I think)...but I'm glad you like it!
seems like most here have all ready said the thoughts that I had when first viewing the pics... great minds everyone!
Originally posted by Transmute JunYes, don't all Joe's dates end this way?Originally posted by Springie but it scares me to think about why his pants would be unbuttoned????Clearly Joe was just getting to 'the good stuff' with a woman and then discovered she was a Devilstar. 'Nuff said.
Love your theory as to why Ken is enraged in the other pic!
I was thinking that Joe might be tormenting Ken by showing him "Comando G"!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyKuLldoL4I
Commando G....OMG, LB...I am cracking up, here!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 15 Aug 2010 08:11
Oh, Commando G... that's a good one! Maybe Ken thinks the spastic kid is supposed to be him....
Or maybe he's afraid the dance moves will become another Science Ninja Team fighting technique! 
I can see it now, "Science Ninja Technique: Seizure Attack!"
And goons watching all collapse left and right, completely incapacitated as they are laughing too hard to be able to breathe properly...
Dragonlady1
Member
posted 15 Aug 2010 11:49
I LOVE THE CONDOR - I CANT HELP IT
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 15 Aug 2010 13:06
Originally posted by Dragonlady1 I LOVE THE CONDOR - I CANT HELP ITYou're not the only one on this board...
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 15 Aug 2010 21:05
Huh.... this one has a bit of a yaoi-ish feel to me... probably because of the way Ken is smiling. I'd expect to see him smiling that way at Jun. It looks like he bought a car for Joe and is giving him the key? But where would Ken get the money for that? Hmmmm...
Originally posted by Transmute Jun Huh.... this one has a bit of a yaoi-ish feel to me... probably because of the way Ken is smiling.I think's it's an illustration for one of Sayuri's Japanese fics, so the "yaoi-ish" is probably intentional. Joe looks a bit smug here. I'm thinking that he and Ken have been having a disagreement about who should drive (and I mean that *literally*), and Joe has somehow won. Dragonlady1, I see you joined the Condor clan -welcome!
Is it Ken that's giving the key to Joe, or is it the other way round? I could well see the spark on Joe's thumb as if he's flicking the keys towards Ken, who's ready to grab them! It also seems like a friendly, or better, a brotherly gesture, not particularly yaoi-ish ... that of Joe giving the keys of his beloved car to Ken!
Oh ... forgot to mention! The Condor seems to have some very dark circles under his eyes, there! I wonder what he could have been doing during the previous night to stay awake!!!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 16 Aug 2010 04:34
Originally posted by gatchamarie Oh ... forgot to mention! The Condor seems to have some very dark circles under his eyes, there! I wonder what he could have been doing during the previous night to stay awake!!!Maybe that is why the Condor HAS to give the keys to the Eagle. He is tired from the night before - of has just finished an extremely long mission and knows he is not fit to drive.
Thanks, I wondered how long I could stay an eagle for ! (not that long it seems) 
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 16 Aug 2010 11:49
That's okay, we're plenty happy to have a Condor around here!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 16 Aug 2010 11:59
Or ANOTHER Condor around here!
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 16 Aug 2010 13:31
Originally posted by clouddancerGood point, CD!Originally posted by gatchamarie Oh ... forgot to mention! The Condor seems to have some very dark circles under his eyes, there! I wonder what he could have been doing during the previous night to stay awake!!!Maybe that is why the Condor HAS to give the keys to the Eagle. He is tired from the night before - of has just finished an extremely long mission and knows he is not fit to drive.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 16 Aug 2010 14:09
Thank you Marie. 
Dragonlady1
Member
posted 17 Aug 2010 06:03
who knows what the condor has been up to. ??
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 17 Aug 2010 06:07
You're right, Dragonlady ... who knows?!!!!
Ummm.... did anyone else notice that you can see the Eagle's legs through the Condor's arm...?
Could that explain the darkness under Joe's eyes?
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 17 Aug 2010 06:30
You've got quite an eye, Green! Are you sure you're not an Eagle?!!!
Oh, no, honey - I'm a Condor through and through! Probably why I examined him most closely... *snigger*
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 17 Aug 2010 06:41
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 17 Aug 2010 06:46
I did notice that point Green, but I just took it as artists prerogative.
But it does make one wonder doesn't it.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 17 Aug 2010 06:51
Too funny, Green! I like your explanation!
That's really good, Green...would make for a spooky Halloween fic!
I put this one up, because i didn't know what was up with those keys! Thanks to you guys, I can see that he's flipping the key to Joe (I think)...
They seem to have a lot of music themed pics on those Japanese sites...
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 17 Aug 2010 09:27
Where are you getting these from Springie?
What site? Do you have the link?
I've been doing searches every now and then...here are some of the sites I use...
Utoland chronicle
Sayuri's Site
Ha-ha's Site
Gatchaman World
Sometimes I just click around on the links until i find something interesting...
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 17 Aug 2010 12:14
What is with that purple scarf? Is Ken channeling Berg Katse?
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 17 Aug 2010 12:41
Originally posted by Springie I've been doing searches every now and then...here are some of the sites I use... Ha-ha's Site Gatchaman World Sometimes I just click around on the links until i find something interesting...I knew of the first two. Even though I have trouble accessing some of the pictures on the first site. Ha-ha looks to be a big Eagle fan based on all her pictures. The last link is a new one for me. Thank you Springie.
Hahaha...yeah..that scarf is groovy, huh? That pic makes me laugh...
Here's a new one from me...why is Jun crying? (I'm working on expressions)
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 17 Aug 2010 13:31
It looks like Ken just slapped her, and now he's trying to apologize, but she's not having it.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 17 Aug 2010 13:57
You have done well with Jun's facial expression Springie.
I am thinking something has upset Jun and Ken is reaching out to pull her into his chest and comfort her.
Springie - very expressive, not just her face but her whole body language.
My interpretation: Jun and Jinpei just had a fight and Ken brought her outside to cool off?
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 17 Aug 2010 23:12
Originally posted by nuni Springie - very expressive, not just her face but her whole body language.
Maybe Jun is fed up waiting to be asked out for a date by Ken, and that day she said, "Enough is enough! ... Ken, let's talk outside!"
Originally posted by gatchamarieOh, yeah... "Jun, you know I care about you, but right now, with Galactor and everything, we just can't...." Totally see that in her body language!Originally posted by nuni Springie - very expressive, not just her face but her whole body language.
I get the sense that they're disagreeing about something (her folded arms and slightly averted face suggest obstinacy), and that the Eagle is trying to reason with her and explain his position, like one of those situations where what she (and often the others) emotionally feel is the right thing to do is being overruled by Ken, who has to focus on a mission's larger goals.
You've put a lot of emotion and expression into this pic, Springie, and so well!
They are definitely disagreeing about something, but what?
if you hadn't've told me she was crying, i would never have known. even staring at it, my screen doesn't show any tears in her eyes or on her face - my gamma is maybe too high? if there's color there for tears, it blends right into the skin.
she doesn't look in the least upset to me, the only indication that she's got some emotion going on is in the quirked eyebrows. her eyes are wide open, there's no wrinkles on her forehead and her lips are pursed.
she looks vaguely disgruntled, like Ken just told her she couldn't have any ice cream before the fair ride and she's miffed about it.
Dragonlady1
Member
posted 20 Aug 2010 05:12
lborgia you could be right its like the last episode of Gatchaman 1 where the rest of the team want to take Joe back to the Phoenix but Ken puts his foot down & says they must carry on with the mission. Its definately a disagreement of some sort. 
Joe certainly looks relaxed here...I'll bet Ken is about to disturb his rest...must be time to go on a mission!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 22 Aug 2010 18:59
That is a new picture for me Springie. Who drew it?
Not sure...just another one I found on one of the Japanese sites...
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 22 Aug 2010 21:11
That one's new to me too! It looks like Joe is in his 'don't talk to me,. I'm not listening' mode!
I think TJ is right, and love the way he looks. However, it looks like the Eagle has got a new number.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 23 Aug 2010 02:34
That one's new to me, also! It's better for the Eagle to think twice before disturbing the Condor!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 23 Aug 2010 04:01
That was my initial reaction on Ken's number too, Amethyst.
Marie, is that an adaptation on the "Let sleeping dogs lie" proverb? 
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 23 Aug 2010 06:01
Originally posted by clouddancer Marie, is that an adaptation on the "Let sleeping dogs lie" proverb?
Something like that!! ... don't wake up the Condor or he'll bite you!!!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 23 Aug 2010 06:39
More likely ..... stick you with a shuriken.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 23 Aug 2010 07:32
I thought it was a new number as well, but I think it's the bottom of a 1 with no horizontal line... if that makes any sense?
Makes sense to me...I think they also made the #1 too wide... 
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 23 Aug 2010 08:09
That is what I decided in the end as well Springie.
Maybe it's what would happen to him if he woke up the Condor (his shirt is trying to warn him). Instead of being #1 he'd become 0.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 23 Aug 2010 10:24
Good one, Amethyst!!
"Don't you know, Ken? There's nothing like heat from a warm engine to loosen up strained lower back muscles..."
Originally posted by SpringieThe other pic, I wonder if it's after episode 105, and Ken is overcome with grief about Joe's death, and is thinking of him, while Dr. Nambu tries to help him?
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 23 Aug 2010 16:47
Originally posted by lborgia88 The other pic, I wonder if it's after episode 105, and Ken is overcome with grief about Joe's death, and is thinking of him, while Dr. Nambu tries to help him?I wondered something similar to that as well. Joe is missing and Nambu is holding/ supporting Ken in his grief. Nambu looks like he is worried about Ken.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 24 Aug 2010 00:09
Originally posted by clouddancerI'm thinking just the same! Although Ken is punching in the air, the expression on his face is not that of anger, but of sorrow, and that of Dr. Nambu is of sympathy.Originally posted by lborgia88 The other pic, I wonder if it's after episode 105, and Ken is overcome with grief about Joe's death, and is thinking of him, while Dr. Nambu tries to help him?I wondered something similar to that as well. Joe is missing and Nambu is holding/ supporting Ken in his grief. Nambu looks like he is worried about Ken.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 24 Aug 2010 07:26
I agree, it seems like that sketch depicts Ken's emotions after Joe's death.
Dragonlady1
Member
posted 27 Aug 2010 12:50
I found this pic going through pieces of the comic art. I think it may have been Alex Ross' work. I like his work although i suppose that its a bit 70's for some people. 
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 27 Aug 2010 13:01
I'm not seeing any picture, DragonLady?
Dragonlady1
Member
posted 28 Aug 2010 07:26
Sorry Transmute Jun, I meant the pic that Springie had back on page 7 (Joe lying on his car) bonnet. 
I forgot to elaborate.!
I forgot to elaborate.!
Dragonlady1
Member
posted 28 Aug 2010 07:29
Mind you just the thought of a nice warm Condor all laid out like that..........?
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 28 Aug 2010 08:39
You make a good point there, DragonLady! 
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 28 Aug 2010 18:58
I think Joe just got a really high score while he was skeet-shooting!
It makes me think of episode 81, where Joe was using a hand gun.
Or this is a scene from one of Joe's dates -she's gorgeous, so he's saying "Wow," but of course she's trying to kill him.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 28 Aug 2010 23:18
He's looking upwards, so he's either skeet-shooting, like TJ has said, or something appealing has attracted his attention while he is shooting ... wonder what, or who, it might be! ... maybe he's just stopping watching Jun doing gymnastics nearby, and is watching her as she springs and somersaults gracefully in the air!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 29 Aug 2010 07:41
Ooh, I sense a little Condor/Swan longing in that post, Marie...
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 29 Aug 2010 09:34
Originally posted by Transmute Jun Ooh, I sense a little Condor/Swan longing in that post, Marie...I'm kind of getting used to the idea! That's what frequenting this site is doing to me! Or, perhaps, I'm wrong ... it's just her flashing panties that are attracting his attention, and he's wowing at the sight!
Originally posted by gatchamarieYes, sooner or later, one finds oneself thinking of the creative possibilites of other pairings, even if you have a favourite one -all part of the fun!Originally posted by Transmute Jun Ooh, I sense a little Condor/Swan longing in that post, Marie...I'm kind of getting used to the idea! That's what frequenting this site is doing to me! :
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 29 Aug 2010 16:37
It's the same for me! I grew up thinking that Mark and Princess were meant to be and there was no other possible combination (although,naturally, Jason was terribly jealous). But then as an adult, after I discovered Gatchaman and fanfiction, I started finding all of these Condor/Swan fics... and was tempted to write my own...
I'm pretty sure this one comes from Wendy (Diinzumo)...it looks like her style...and I'm sure there is a story behind this one!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 29 Aug 2010 19:21
If they were in birdstyle I would say Ken had just "dumped" Joes car from the God Phoenix. That is how it came on to rest like that - and after the car "crashed" it changed back to civilian mode.
Maybe they came back to locate the car after the mission was over and they had changed back to their civilian attire.
Yeah, a lot of maybes in there. I am sure someone can come up with something better.
CD, you're idea was better than mine, in which Ken crashed the car and Joe was upset about it. Either way Ken looks a bit petulant and Joe is angry.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 29 Aug 2010 19:28
Amethyst, my thought was the same as yours! Maybe Ken thought the car was a plane, and it could fly...
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 29 Aug 2010 20:12
It could be petulance. I was thinking it was a "don't blame me, I had to do it" look. Or "you told me to do it" look.
And Joe is saying "But I didn't really think you would."
Originally posted by Transmute Jun It's the same for me! I grew up thinking that Mark and Princess were meant to be and there was no other possible combination (although,naturally, Jason was terribly jealous). But then as an adult, after I discovered Gatchaman and fanfiction, I started finding all of these Condor/Swan fics... and was tempted to write my own...I can't recall being too interested in Mark and Princess romance as a kid -though I can't say if that just a general disinterest in all things romantic at that age or if I was just more interested in Jason, who didn't have a girlfriend. What led me to write Joe/Jun was wanting to write a romantic sort of fic, with Joe as the male lead, but I didn't feel like creating a female OC (something I'd already tried) -so that pointed to Jun (who else is there, really?) Then it became an interesting study in figuring out what sort of circumstances might bring this about, because as you remarked once, writing Condor/Swan always entails dealing with the "what about the Eagle?" question, because that's where pretty much all the canon points.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Aug 2010 00:38
Originally posted by Transmute Jun Maybe Ken thought the car was a plane, and it could fly...
You crack me up, TJ!
On the other hand, if it really were Ken's fault, I don't think Joe would have manifested his anger so far from the scene, leaving the Eagle with nothing ... he would have already put his hands over him without losing any time! So, I don't think it was Ken's fault ... Ken's expression, for me, is that of "Hard luck! There was nothing that I could have done!"
Regarding the romantic aspect ... being used to watch Gatchaman, I have always seen Ken and Jun as a potential couple, even if nothing was implied ... their body language spoke to me in that way! But, even if I were, and am, more inclined towards Ken, Joe was also a favorite character of mine ... sometimes, also having to choose between them ... and, I wished the best for him also! That's why I don't see anything wrong with a Joe/Jun romance! And, as LB has rightly said, this kind of theory needs a "what about the Eagle?" question, so that makes it much more interesting!!!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 30 Aug 2010 07:05
Yes, even in Gatchaman II, you have to address the question of the Eagle. Heck, Maddy wrote a OAV Joe/Jun smut fic and she addressed the question as well there, even though Ken and Jun have no chemistry in the OAVs.
I've seen many different explanations. My personal favorites are:
1) Ken has shut Jun out and she's given up (even better if he really does have feelings for her and we can go through all of that glorious angst)
2) Ken and Jun tried it, but it never worked out
3) Ken tried, but he's so messed up emotionally (thanks to his Dad, duty, whatever you want) that he killed the romance before it even started.
The one I like best is number 1, of course... 
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Aug 2010 09:14
Originally posted by Transmute Jun The one I like best is number 1, of course...
Number 1 is a very probable scenario, and fits well with the canon of the first Gatch series where Jun shows interest in Ken (and Jinpei teases her about it) but Ken doesn't really do anything. And it's not hard to believe that under such circumstances, a girl would give up -especially if she thought she could easily get killed soon and needed to live while she still could, and especially with Joe around as another option!
I once used a number 3 "messed up" Ken to kill a Ken/Jun romance that had already started. (Hard to resist sticking 'Ol Red Impulse with some blame for messing him up!)
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 30 Aug 2010 10:06
Well RI was hardly the model of romance for a child, after he had abandoned his family like that.
But, TJ, Red Impulse could well have a romantic. In fact, I always thought he was. There's nothing to prove he wasn't, at least while he was still with his family (and, to give the man credit, his last thoughts were of his wife and son...).
If anything, his leaving would have pointed out to Ken that loving someone, and then having to leave them because of duty, is an emotional toll that is too heavy to bear... and maybe he didn't want to cause Jun that kind of pain...or maybe he didn't want to have to go through it again...
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Aug 2010 11:20
Originally posted by RIgirl If anything, his leaving would have pointed out to Ken that loving someone, and then having to leave them because of duty, is an emotional toll that is too heavy to bear... and maybe he didn't want to cause Jun that kind of pain...or maybe he didn't want to have to go through it again...ITA with this reasoning of yours, RIgirl! Although I think that there are no boundaries for love, the situation in which they were in, that is both of them involved in fighting a war together, and Ken being the leader, also didn't help a lot! It surely must not have been an easy decision, neither for RI nor for Ken! Both had to detach themselves completely from any sentimental ties which could have distracted them from their line of duty! I must admit ... RI wasn't such a role model of a father, but, all in all, I don't think it was all his fault!
Originally posted by gatchamarie Both had to detach themselves completely from any sentimental ties which could have distracted them from their line of duty!That's sort of the line of thinking I took, that Ken might have internalized the lesson, from his father, that when there's a conflict between "sentimental ties" and duty, you must choose duty. And then I stuck him with some abandonment issues -from losing his father when he was small (and again later), and then his mother to illness.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 30 Aug 2010 12:49
Originally posted by RIgirl But, TJ, Red Impulse could well have a romantic.It's possible. We know almost nothing about his life before he left Ken with Dr. Nambu. But my point was that Ken's memories of his father were of the man who was no longer with his family. That's not something that builds a role moel for healthy relationships.
Originally posted by Springie I'm pretty sure this one comes from Wendy (Diinzumo)...it looks like her style...and I'm sure there is a story behind this one!Oh yes - that's a Diinzumo special... Hmmm.... story behind it? Oh yes... now to get that issue of Bird Scramble scanned....
Originally posted by Reboekah Hmmm.... story behind it? Oh yes... now to get that issue of Bird Scramble scanned....I'd like to see that!
Dragonlady1
Member
posted 3 Sep 2010 03:26
On the subject of a Ken/Jun relationship;
I vaguely remember reading about some of the relationship that Ken had with his father. Didnt his father tell Nambu that he should beat him or take a belt to him if he needed to or something ?? (sorry I hate this condition - cant remember anything properly). I dont think that'd help.
It is also possible that Ken couldnt bring himself to have a relationship with Jun in case anything should happen to him - that could destroy Jun's ability to fight etc and vice-versa. 
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 3 Sep 2010 06:15
Originally posted by Dragonlady1 It is also possible that Ken couldnt bring himself to have a relationship with Jun in case anything should happen to him - that could destroy Jun's ability to fight etc and vice-versa.That could be one of the many possible hypothesises often assumed ... I think, in Ken's case, it's more possible for him to have thought that it would have worked against him, that is if something could have happened to Jun, he would not have been able to keep his concentration on track, especially as leader of the SNT. As to RI ... he did beat the hell out of Ken! RI believed that the most effective teaching was done using the hard way!
Originally posted by gatchamarie As to RI ... he did beat the hell out of Ken! RI believed that the most effective teaching was done using the hard way!Yes, RI did hit Ken under the assumption that he needed a, um, wake up call. However, I never got the impression that it was RI's idea. In fact, because this occurs right after Ken ignores Nambu, I always suspected that Nambu was the one who ordered RI to do it. Which would explain why RI was crying even as he was doing it...he didn't want to... But one other thing that has always bothered me -- everyone keeps saying that Ken learned "tough love" from his father, but think about it -- RI dropped out of his life when he was four, then only reappeared when he was 18 ... would anything done in that short amount of time really have had much of an impact on Ken, especially considering that even Ken himself says he doesn't remember anything of his father?
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 3 Sep 2010 07:45
I think the fact that his father *wasn't there* had a HUGE impact on Ken. Yes, Nambu raised him, but Ken always thought about his father, and there was clearly an absence that was felt. This is especially evident by Ken's immediate reaction whenever anyone mentions his father, and when he discovers that his father is alive. Others may be surprised, but have to think things over for awhile. Not Ken. He's been obsessing about this his entire life.
For me, the 'tough love' comes from RI's physically abusive treatment of Ken as an adult, and the short 'goodbye' when RI goes off to his death. And then there's the swimming scene as a child...
Would it have killed RI to say that he loves his son? At least Harley Harris (in Eagle Riders) did that... none of the other RI characters did.I gather RI was supposed to be a 'tough guy' and not show these kinds of emotions, but as a person, he's someone I couldn't respect or get close to, and that color my opinion of the character.
That being said, RIGirl, in your fics you've certainly done a wonderful job trying to bring some humanity to a character that (to me, this is only my opinion) has never had some in canon.
Believe it or not, TJ, I actually do agree with you on several points, especially about Ken obsessing. And like I've always said, RI is, at times, a very hard character to defend!
Playing devil's advocate here, I just want to give some equal time to a different view of what may have been going on behind the character.
Setting aside all else, and whatever reasons, RI does love Ken. The man would not have been reduced to tears as much as he was if he didn't. He obviously holds many regrets (and isn't above voicing snide remarks at Nambu every chance he gets) and RI was surprised to find that Ken did not resent his father for leaving.
Maybe RI thought he lost the right to tell Ken that he loved him, and that's why he didn't...
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 3 Sep 2010 08:53
As you point out, there are two sides to everything, even a character like Red Impulse. One thing is for certain: he inspires strong emotions in people! I don't think too many people are neutral about him. And in the end, I guess that's what makes a good story... characters the viewers/readers are passionate about.
As for RI's tears... there are all kinds of interpretations for why he has them. I agree, he has many regrets.... but about what? That's up to the fanfic writer to decide...
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 3 Sep 2010 09:40
The points TJ has indicated are the ones I would have mentioned also!
It's clear that RI loved his son ... IMO he just wasn't able to show it, apart from not having had enough time! I'm also one who justifies RI's absence because of the fact that he was a man of duty, and a soldier that had his planet's wellbeing at heart, his family being a part of that planet!
But, it did seem obvious that it was in RI's character to hide sentiments, and to only know how to teach the hard way. This might also have been the price he had to pay for being an impeccable soldier, and this type of character could have been moulded out of the many years he had to stay away from home, and the crust he had to grow around him in order to be able to contain his emotions.
I still believe that his beating up Ken was his idea from the very start, though ... in fact, he always cried after hiding his true feelings, because, IMHO, deep down, he knew that it wasn't that part of him that he wanted to show Ken, but, that he was compelled to do so out of discipline and in the attempt of also making a soldier out of his son!
Having been raised by a father with the same character as RI's, I can completely understand how Ken, and also RI, might have felt! I know that behind every action, from that type of parent, lies a huge amount of love ... a type of love that's bigger than the one shown by affectionate parents ... but it doesn't hurt to sometimes admit it, even in the tiniest, or shortest, of ways! It's frustrating for a child to grow up in a parent's shadow! Even during the period in which Ken met, and fought at the side of, his father without knowing RI's real identity, he was always depicted as inferior than RI due to the latter's behaviour! What do you think were the memories that Ken had of his father after his death ... that he was never able to be as good as his father wanted him to be! Ken surely knew that his father loved him ... he knew that what his father did was out of sacrifice, but, a few words, or a simple, loving action, would have helped a lot!
We saw RI showing his son his love when Ken was asleep ... we saw RI shed his tears when Ken was not looking ... what could have been that wrong if Ken were able to see such, himself?! In one of the latest recaps of the "Episode of the Week", we also saw a tired Ken kneeling at his father's tomb, saying that he was still not able to avenge his dad ... a frustrated Ken who, once again, was feeling that he was not good enough to be up to what was expected from him!
All this notwithstanding, I have nothing that bad against RI's character! I don't know if I was clear enough, or if I was more confusing than being able to explain myself, but I just wanted to point out how important it is to show your love towards the ones you care about when you're still in time! Afterwards it's too late!
This is one of my latest from Bird Scramble...but I thought it would be fun to post it in this thread...
Why can I see this being so true? LOL AND he doesn't even look remorseful *snigger*
Ahh... Springie.... You certainly have made my night!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 4 Sep 2010 08:14
You've got to wonder what he has done... I'll bet he was just 'doing his job' and he knows that the ISO is going to get him out, pronto! 
I think he might just be wondering if Nambu is going to buy his story - this time! LOL
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 4 Sep 2010 10:51
Great expression of the Condor's, Springie! He just seems so cool about the situation! Wonder what he might have done!
Hey, Springie, I love the fact that it was the "New Jersey Police Department" that caught him! *snicker* Must've been on the Turnpike...
I was thinking he was caught in New Jork...but Jersey works, too! 
He probably thinks the cops are secretly Galactor agents, and he's about to let 'em have it! 
He probably thinks the cops are secretly Galactor agents, and he's about to let 'em have it!
Dragonlady1
Member
posted 5 Sep 2010 08:49
Maybe its best not to ask what Mr Asakura has been up to !
Maybe just dream about what he may have been up to or might get up to...................???
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 6 Sep 2010 16:45
Springie, this is a great picture and I have to agree with Marie, I love his expression.
Springie
Her Royal Fluffiness...Swan of Swans...
posted 23 Jun 2014 19:18
(edited 23 Jun 2014 19:35)
I haven't done any of these in a while...and I just found a ton of Japanese fan art. I have no idea what is going on in many of these pictures, and it's fun to guess...so here's a new one for you. What do you think is happening here?
They're asking,
"Hakase, is this thing really a new bird style uniform??"
The picket in his hand is saying : "April fool"
I guess this art had been released on April 1st.
Haha! That's what it says? Too funny! Thanks for the insight, Rachel!
LOL Good one Nambu!
Thanks for the translation, rachel, it's not something I'd have guessed.
ElectricWhite
Gatchamaniac
posted 25 Jun 2014 05:12
Once again rachel saves the day!
LOL Rachel, thanks so much for translating!
Rachel, I have a ton of these with writing on them, so it's nice to have you here to tell us what they actually say! This one has no writing...so we'll just have to guess at what is happening... (I'll keep posting pictures from time to time- I have so many!)
Springie.
I've not learned Japanese language.
In my school days, I used to be a video game fan.
So I can pronounce Japanese letters(Their letters are phonetic) and know simple conversations.
They also use Kanji(Chinese letters) which are ideograms.
I learned Kanji when I was a middle/high school student.
Kanji has about two hundreds of basic letters(some kind of alphabets) I know them all.
So when I see a Kanji I don't know, I can easily find it in the dictionary with its alphabets. There are countless Kanji even a highly educated Chinese does not know them all.
I memorized about 2000 pieces of Kanji long time ago, I think now less than half of them are still remain in my brain. But I think it is enough to read frequently used Kanji by Japanese people.
When I go to Japan, I barely need to speak Japanese. In the subway trains, I study ads attached on the wall for fun.(But it was not funny at all when I found prostitution ad of Korean call girls...It was so shocking to me to find it in the subway trains!!) nearly 80% of them are understandable cause Japanese also love to use English words. It is written in Katakana, the letters in Nambu's pickets. Its pronunciation is "E-I-Who-Ri-L Who-Ru=April fool."
They adopt English words in their own typical way.
coffee: Go Hee
Building: Bi-ru
morning- Mo-Ning-Gu
Mcdonalds: Mec-Gu-No-Na-Ru-Do
Bird: Ba-Do
Style: Sta-I-Ru
In the fan art, fortunately there was only one word I don' know, so I searched it in the web dictionary. Its meaning was "really". That's how I could translate it.
Springie. I love to learn foreign languages, so do not mind to ask me to translate them. I enjoy it too.
PS) Ah...I'm also a great fan of Japanese movie(??), well, there are actress and actors anyway... conversations are so simple I can translate them too with my accumulated experience of fifteen years watching them!! Don't bother bring it to me!
PS) Ah...I'm also a great fan of Japanese movie(??), well, there are actress and actors anyway... conversations are so simple I can translate them too with my accumulated experience of fifteen years watching them!! Don't bother bring it to me!
I'm impressed either way, Rachel! it's awesome to have you here as our "detective"! At least we can get an idea of what they had in mind when they drew it...thanks so much!
it's awesome to have you here as our "detective"! At least we can get an idea of what they had in mind when they drew it...thanks so much!
Well, Rachel, we do need someone to translate most of Gatchaman Fighter for us so we can subtitle it.
Eh? Is there only Japanese version of Gatchaman fighter?
I can't hear or speak Japanese well enough to translate them.
I can only read and guess its meanings of texts.
On the Youtube, there are Korean subtitles.
I can translate them into English.
But I wonder if it's possible to insert English subtitles into the Youtube video which is uploaded by the other person, without his permission.
If one of you have videos of Gatchaman fighters, send it to me. Then I can make English subtitles.
It may help to improve my English more.
Neither Gatchaman II nor Gatchaman Fighter was ever translated to English. The English subtitled Gatchaman II on Youtube is entirely fan-done. We (I was editing/smoothing out the English, that's the easy part) unfortunately couldn't find translations of Gatch F or anyone willing to translate them as a volunteer because the show was so old.
I've just emailed the lovely lady responsible for getting the Gatch II subtitles done. Hopefully I'll hear from her soon. Will let you know! (Or she'll come directly here, I included link to our discussion.)
Chris, Do you mean that you'd sent the videos to my e-mail? I'd got nothing! Hope that "the lovely lady" would be me.
It would be great if you could help us get the rest of Gatch F translated, Rachel! 
Hehe, okay rachel, I've talked to the person who did the subtitling for all the others. She said that if you would just take the Korean-subtitled-ones from YouTube and type the translations into a text or word document script, she can handle putting the subtitles over the video, and she's quite excited! I'm going to email you some sample scripts so you can see the format we used before, it's pretty simple. She's got the subtitling process itself down to a science I think by this point.
She's got the subtitling process itself down to a science I think by this point.
Oh wow, that would be great if we could get Gatch F translated! 
I"ve found Eng subtitled videos of G/F on the Youtube.
Episode 1
http://youtu.be/dAncHH6ptws
Episode 2
http://youtu.be/6gpNp0WzXZo
Episode 3
http://youtu.be/yvb51cLUqy8
Episode 4
http://youtu.be/l04PKjOuJuc
Episode 5
http://youtu.be/pzoHQzSWvVU
Episode 6
http://youtu.be/jB_IuId-Z9Q
Episode 7
http://youtu.be/xFMWEexC3dI
Episode 8~ END
Rachel will do
This is so exciting! We'll get the "real story" now! I'm especially excited to hear what they are saying in the last few episodes!
Originally posted by Springie Rachel, I have a ton of these with writing on them, so it's nice to have you here to tell us what they actually say! This one has no writing...so we'll just have to guess at what is happening... (I'll keep posting pictures from time to time- I have so many!)It looks to me like Joe and Ryu have pulled off some sort of joke at Ken's expense -and poor Ken is currently clueless about it... Wonderful, Rachel, if you could translate those Korean-subbed Gatch F episodes into English subtitles!
I agree, that it's the final ones that I've long been the most curious about.
Ha! I got so excited about Gatch F, I forgot about the picture! Thanks for bringing it onto this page, LB!
Yes, Ken does look clueless! I wonder if they are telling him that *he* has to pay for the pizza? *grin*
Originally posted by Springie Yes, Ken does look clueless! I wonder if they are telling him that *he* has to pay for the pizza? *grin*No, that Ken will be washing dishes and mopping the floor to pay off the tab! LOL.
Or that Jun's going to accept some "alternate" form of payment that involves leaving Ken alone with her after. *grin*
Originally posted by RedbirdPerfect! I can see him wearing the apron now!!Originally posted by Springie Yes, Ken does look clueless! I wonder if they are telling him that *he* has to pay for the pizza? *grin*No, that Ken will be washing dishes and mopping the floor to pay off the tab! LOL.
Originally posted by ChrisW Or that Jun's going to accept some "alternate" form of payment that involves leaving Ken alone with her after. *grin*OMG! Yes- I can see that happening. Jun's taking full advantage of the situation!
Here are a couple more...
Who is Joe kissing and why?
I'm not sure...is this a ghost? Who is it? And why is he kissing Nambu/Anderson?
I'm not sure...is this a ghost? Who is it? And why is he kissing Nambu/Anderson?
"This is reward for your valentine chocolates. Next is your turn, baby."
It seems that it's White day(3/14, after a month from V-day). Maybe a lot of girls are standing in line waiting for a kiss from Joe.
In Northeast Asia, women give chocolates&gifts to men on valentine day. After a month(called as White day), men return his favor with candies and gifts for women.
Many guys here are quietly frustrated that valentine gifts they received were only chocolates/cross stitches(usually a small cushion with his phone number, to be displayed on his car)/neck warmers/etc made by his girlfriends, but the expected white day gifts are expensive stuffs in the department stores.
I always give my husband nice gifts twice a year for valentine day and his birthday.
But my birthday is 3/14. Of course, he only prepares one gift for me over ten years.
There is no clue for the boy, but I think he is little Joe.
"Thank you for your kindness(affection for me)"
In Northeast Asia, women give chocolates&gifts to men on valentine day. After a month(called as White day), men return his favor with candies and gifts for women.
Many guys here are quietly frustrated that valentine gifts they received were only chocolates/cross stitches(usually a small cushion with his phone number, to be displayed on his car)/neck warmers/etc made by his girlfriends, but the expected white day gifts are expensive stuffs in the department stores.
I always give my husband nice gifts twice a year for valentine day and his birthday.
But my birthday is 3/14. Of course, he only prepares one gift for me over ten years.
There is no clue for the boy, but I think he is little Joe.
"Thank you for your kindness(affection for me)"
Neat! It is so nice to find out the original intention of the pictures from you, Rachel! I remember hearing about white day before, but it forgot how it worked! That's funny that the guys feel like they get the " short end of the stick" when it comes to gifts. I guess it's that way here for Father's Day when they complain about only getting neckties! Lol! I'd be standing in that line to kiss Joe, too!
It's neat that your birthday falls on white day...but it's a shame you only get one gift!
I was thinking that the boy in the bottom pic was Joe, too. I suppose his ghost is thanking Nambu for everything he did for him when he was alive...sniff, sniff...
It's neat that your birthday falls on white day...but it's a shame you only get one gift!
I was thinking that the boy in the bottom pic was Joe, too. I suppose his ghost is thanking Nambu for everything he did for him when he was alive...sniff, sniff...
ElectricWhite
Gatchamaniac
posted 5 Jul 2014 05:23
rachel, you've got my sympathies! That's almost as bad as a kid born on Christmas. (Kids usually don't understand the religious significance -- they just know they've got a bunch of cheapskate relatives who won't spring for both Christmas and birthday presents!)
Originally posted by Springie I was thinking that the boy in the bottom pic was Joe, too. I suppose his ghost is thanking Nambu for everything he did for him when he was alive...sniff, sniff...Dang it, Springie! I was doing fine until I ran into that! If you keep that sort of thing up, I'll have to put up fennec wallpaper to keep from being overwhelmed by sadness!
Originally posted by rachel It seems that it's White day(3/14, after a month from V-day). Maybe a lot of girls are standing in line waiting for a kiss from Joe.This sounds like it could be a fan-fic (or a prompt). LOL. Jun has a Valentines themed thing at the Snack to raise money and Joe's gotta man the Kissing Booth.
Originally posted by rachel But my birthday is 3/14. Of course, he only prepares one gift for me over ten years.Clearly this is a universal male thing.
Originally posted by rachelThere is no clue for the boy, but I think he is little Joe.Yeah I was thinking perhaps the kid in that last pic was meant to be Joe too.....
Thanks for the translations, rachel!
That pic with young Joe looks like one of a collection of images that include Joe and Ken as kids. I'm pretty sure Joe's meant to be alive, there. I could be wrong, though.
I could be wrong, though.
A collection? Do you have the pics? I'm looking through the ones I found on the website, and yes, there are several of what must be Ken and Joe as kids. I'm assuming that they were drawn to go with someone's fan fic...but I'm not sure about that.
The reason I thought Joe was a ghost was because he we can see through him in that pic...in the others I have, he is more solid-looking...
Here's what I have that appears to be Ken and Joe as kids...
Wow...I didn't realize that so many of these featured kid Joe (and a little bit of Ken)...
They are obviously done by the same artist and they seem to be telling Joe's story after he went with Nambu. Sorry I have them all out of order!
Were these the ones you saw, Chris?
wow, whoever the artist is, they sure are a big Condor fan.
I'd love to know what Nambu has walked in on in the pic of older Joe!
They are all great pics though, thanks for posting Springie
ElectricWhite
Gatchamaniac
posted 5 Jul 2014 15:40
Originally posted by KT1972 I'd love to know what Nambu has walked in on in the pic of older Joe!Uh, I think we all have a pretty good idea what might have happened there, KT!
I think that artist did some more that have Ken. I'll dig through my archives after dinner.
Man, it sucks for Ken fans sometimes, everyone's so Joe obsessed, it's harder and harder to find Ken stuff.
Originally posted by ElectricWhiteIs your mind in the gutter again, EW? *grin* I was thinking that he was walking into Joe's room and picturing him there (at various points in his life) after he died (Nambu is getting all sentimental). I'm trying to connect it to the other pics.Originally posted by KT1972 I'd love to know what Nambu has walked in on in the pic of older Joe!Uh, I think we all have a pretty good idea what might have happened there, KT!
Chris, I hear you about the Joe obsession...but I don't mind. It seems like Ken is front and center of most of the official Tatsunoko stuff, though. I tend to draw Ken more than Joe- but then I sometimes get on a Joe kick (I like to try to keep them balanced)...
I don't begrudge people their preferences, I'm just a little grumpy at times, hehe. Okay, I'm looking through my pictures now ... DH tells me I should upload my whole Gatch pic collection somewhere ... maybe I should, it'd be easier!
And I do agree that in the official stuff it can be way too much Ken at times (good thing he's my fave!). It must be hardest for those who aren't primarily #1 and/or #2 fans, though, when it comes to the official stuff.
I keep a lot of my stuff on Photobucket...the only problem is that Photobucket doesn't allow naughty images.
I keep a tumblr page,too...kind of a scrapbook of everything Gatch I find around the net...so at least I know the pics won't be permanently lost...
Originally posted by ChrisW And I do agree that in the official stuff it can be way too much Ken at times (good thing he's my fave!). It must be hardest for those who aren't primarily #1 and/or #2 fans, though, when it comes to the official stuff.There's quite a bit of Jun stuff,too...but, yeah, for Jinpei and Ryu fans it's few and far between! (Which reminds me...I need to do some more G4 and G5 art) Can't wait to see your pics!!!
I don't want to flood this thread with 27 images ... here's the images I have (that you haven't posted yet) of them as kids/younger. Most of them are from the same artist, some are from others, and one is a screenshot from the show. Many of these are from the same group of images you were posting from. I think they came from a Korean fan site Rachel posted, there was a LOT of work there.
Maybe I'll start adding everything to tumblr this weekend. I have a LOT of images. Or we should make some kind of Gatch image wiki together.
Here's the 27 images I added to Photobucket:
27 Gatch images, kiddos
Here's the 27 images I added to Photobucket:
27 Gatch images, kiddos
I'll show a few select ones from that folder in here:
Rachel, if you want to translate any of the text on these, I'll be happy to add them to the Photobucket descriptions.
Originally posted by ChrisW Man, it sucks for Ken fans sometimes, everyone's so Joe obsessed, it's harder and harder to find Ken stuff.I dunno. To me it seems they're pretty evenly represented (but that's MHO). *scratches head* I do agree with Springie when she says Ken is Tatsunoko's poster boy--though I think that's to be expected.
Well, it makes life easy on me, since my first collecting priority is Ken stuff and my 2nd is Joe stuff. It's fun to get the full team when possible, though!
It's fun to get the full team when possible, though!
Okay, I'm slowly adding my Gatch image collection to Tumblr:
my tumblr
I'm so excited! Some of those I've seen before and some were new to me! I can never get enough Gatch pics (as you probably already know-LOL). I am following you over there now- I'm springie03 over there and my page is called "Jun's Joint". So good to have you with some of us over there!
I didn't remember where I got those pics from, but they must be from that same site that rachel posted! I really enjoy that artists work!
Yeah I can't get enough pictures either, obviously. I love it when you post yours, too, since sometimes I haven't seen them! (Same for everyone else of course.)
I adore that particular artist and really have to hunt down that site again and learn her name. Her drawings often have so much emotion, she's got so many with Joe smiling, there's a lot of softness that you normally don't see, and her drawings of them as kids are so awesome.
I know I"m not identifying many of the artists as I don't remember who they are. If anyone stands out let me know and I'll add an attribution, I feel kinda cruddy not knowing ... wish artists would put their name in the filename!
I love it when you post yours, too, since sometimes I haven't seen them! (Same for everyone else of course.)
I adore that particular artist and really have to hunt down that site again and learn her name. Her drawings often have so much emotion, she's got so many with Joe smiling, there's a lot of softness that you normally don't see, and her drawings of them as kids are so awesome.
I know I"m not identifying many of the artists as I don't remember who they are. If anyone stands out let me know and I'll add an attribution, I feel kinda cruddy not knowing ... wish artists would put their name in the filename!
I agree, putting their name in the file name would help. I often rename the pics when I save them and include the artists name if I know it. It would also help if they'd sign their work, too.
Chris ( and anyone else who wants to ) feel free to post a picture here for us to discuss/ contemplate any time you feel like it!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 6 Jul 2014 12:41
Originally posted by ChrisW Or that Jun's going to accept some "alternate" form of payment that involves leaving Ken alone with her after. *grin*I like this one. But then again, if that was the case, Ken would probably be running for his life.
Signing their work would be awesome. Of course, I remind myself that I could create a folder for each artist and save their pics there and track it myself.
Of course, I remind myself that I could create a folder for each artist and save their pics there and track it myself.
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 6 Jul 2014 12:46
Rachel, your husband sure owes you some extra gifts.
All those pics are great. Thanks for posting, Springie.
The one with Joe on the floor with the gun looks like he's older than 8, maybe even upwards of 14.
I love your new avatar, Springie. One of your pics or someone elses? Could you post it full sized?
ElectricWhite
Gatchamaniac
posted 6 Jul 2014 12:46
Originally posted by ChrisW I could create a folder for each artist and save their pics there and track it myself.
And why-oh-why would you do something like that?
Originally posted by Becky Rock Rachel, your husband sure owes you some extra gifts. All those pics are great. Thanks for posting, Springie. The one with Joe on the floor with the gun looks like he's older than 8, maybe even upwards of 14. I love your new avatar, Springie. One of your pics or someone elses? Could you post it full sized?Becky, this is one of my all-time favorite pictures...it's by Robix (one of my favorite artists). I love all of the details...from the dangling wristband, to the tan line on his wrist, to the little jigokiller growing nearby. I wish I could create pics like this!
Springie, Robix does some of my favorite Gatch pics!
Love his/her pics of Ken and Joe! They're so well done! 
Love his/her pics of Ken and Joe! They're so well done!
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 6 Jul 2014 15:51
I didn't notice the Jigo Killer in your avatar. Robix is very talented.
Chris, I am enjoying your new Tumblr page! You had several that I had never seen before...and some I hadn't seen in a long time! I think that between us, we will have everything covered for Gatch/BOTP...but we could always use some help if some of you want to join in the fun! I don't think you need an account to view the pics, but you do need to join if you want to comment or share the pics on your page (I just see my page as a place to collect and store Gatch/BOTP pics- it's a lot of fun!)
I still have a lot more to add. And yeah, I need to go through yours carefully and grab the ones I don't have! Image hoarders unite!
And yeah, I need to go through yours carefully and grab the ones I don't have! Image hoarders unite!
CW- There are so many interesting stuffs on your page!
You are a true Gatchamaniac.
The new Godphoenix ll model box is written in Korean texts.
They're still popular on Korean online shopping malls.
Springie/BR- I never noticed Jigokillers in the picture.
The artist must have a good sense.
Ken will be just safe, won't he? because he's male.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 8 Jul 2014 15:41
Loving all of these new pictures! Thanks so much for sharing them, guys!
Here's another one...I'm trying to figure out if those things in the speech bubble are boobs or angry eyes?
I'm wondering what the heck Ken did in order for Jun to give him the boot!
Maybe she caught him checking out someone else's boobs
Seen from my experience of 20 years with Japanese Manga, that is clearly angry eyes.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 10 Jul 2014 08:48
I guess Ken forgot her birthday...?
Ha! The tear did make me think "eyes", but then again, we often see a tear on the forehead in manga to express emotion...so then I thought...why not boobs? Haha...
TJ...I can see that happening! I can't recall at the moment...but is there a fic where Ken forgets her birthday? I've seen Valentine's Day, but not her b-day...
Originally posted by Kritter Maybe she caught him checking out someone else's boobsI was thinking that, too! Haha
Becky Rock
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Jul 2014 15:20
Joe's thinking 'Ken, you are such a dork!'.
Becky, Joe does have that look on his face, doesn't he?
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