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Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 9 Aug 2010 12:11
Okay, maybe it's not so secret... but we know very little about Dr. Nambu's life before joining the ISO. What did he do? Was he always a dry, serious researcher? Or was he a party animal, burning up the bars and dance floors? Maybe that's where he got his fabulous fashion sense!
What kind of job did he had as a young person, perhaps to put himself through school? Did he deliver pizzas or wash floors at McDonal's?
Get creative!
What kind of job did he had as a young person, perhaps to put himself through school? Did he deliver pizzas or wash floors at McDonal's?
Get creative!
I've kind of always pictured him as the who would ignore the tonka trucks under the Christmas Tree and look for the microscope or something like that.
meridianday
Galaxy Girl
posted 9 Aug 2010 12:55
I started a fic once on what he would have been like in his university days. But I never posted it, because I felt pretty sure I'd have got flamed
I think he would have been hothoused as a kid and going away to university (younger than average) he'd have gone party crazy.
I think he would have been hothoused as a kid and going away to university (younger than average) he'd have gone party crazy.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 9 Aug 2010 13:56
I'm not sure why you feel you would have been flamed, Meridian. I can totally see a young Nambu going wild before he settles down. Heck, maybe he was a hellraiser and then something happened in his past to 'sober him up' and put him on a different life path. Maybe some life-changing event made him alter his ways... I'd love to see another perspective on it!
Yes, please Meridan, if you still have your story, post it for us to read. It sounds interesting!
UnpublishedWriter
Gatchamaniac
posted 9 Aug 2010 14:22
Mine is blah. Father Japanese, who writes and illustrates manga, mother English and employed by a robotics firm that sent her (and the family) around the world. Since I know jack about Japanese culture (certainly not enough to even fake it), this was my way of getting around the Japanese name (and the not-so-Japanese looks).
Oh, Gree-een? (sing-song) You up for a stab at Nambu's past?
And who wants to do the one about him having contact with the aliens who gave him the transmutation technology?
Originally posted by Transmute Jun ...maybe he was a hellraiser and then something happened in his past to 'sober him up' and put him on a different life path. Maybe some life-changing event made him alter his ways...I've always imagined that there must have been some dramatic event in his past to make him the determined person that he is in the present. He's so focused on doing good for the Earth, both as ISO's top scientist and as the creator of the Gatchaman team. He may not show passion outwardly, but I imagine he must feel very passionately about his purpose in life. Maybe something tragic in his past is what spurs him on to continue.
Ladygalactor777
Boardie
posted 9 Aug 2010 16:12
I think he was a Hell Angel biker! that tried to take revenge over Galactor after Galactors raped his wife & killed his children.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 9 Aug 2010 18:12
Originally posted by nuni I've always imagined that there must have been some dramatic event in his past to make him the determined person that he is in the present. He's so focused on doing good for the Earth, both as ISO's top scientist and as the creator of the Gatchaman team. He may not show passion outwardly, but I imagine he must feel very passionately about his purpose in life. Maybe something tragic in his past is what spurs him on to continue.Those are some great ideas, Nuni! You're right that he's passionate about his work (why else would he be so dedicated about it?) but he rarely shows that passion outwardly. Even when he's directly under attack by Galactor or captured by the enemy, he doesn't show a lot of emotion. But you know that deep down, it *has* to be there... And I like the idea of a tragedy being the life-altering event that changes his perspective... maybe a fiance killed by Galactor?
UnpublishedWriter
Gatchamaniac
posted 9 Aug 2010 18:27
The murdered loved one is old. But how about another tragedy close to home? Or some other experience that changed him. One that put him on the path to trying to save the world using science. A village ruined by pollution and illegal waste dumping, whose plight deeply affected him. It could be as simple as seeing the damage wrought by war and wasteful habits during his studies.
He does not like war. There's usually some mention of the peaceful uses of nuclear power or other technologies in the episodes, and the potential to use those technologies for war. If he had his druthers, IMO, the GodPhoenix's capabilities would be used for research, exploration, or search-and-rescue operations. Wonder what the transmutation technology would be used for?
Originally posted by UnpublishedWriter The murdered loved one is old.I disagree. It's not how often the plot device is used, but what the author does with it. When an author does an outstanding job with an idea, theme or device it makes no difference if it is over-used, cliche, or old. They are bringing something new to it. The reverse is often true, if an author does not put the effort into an idea, it doesn't matter how fresh or original it is, it seems old and weary.
Originally posted by UnpublishedWriter The murdered loved one is old.Old, but effective. Love (or loss of love) is one of the most powerful emotions there is. Corny, but true. At least for me.
Originally posted by amethystOk a new one, he is a spy who used to be working for the FBI but is gay & in the closet then he decide to train the science ninja team and come out...!!! Like those stupid reality shows! O may be he was a serial killer!Originally posted by UnpublishedWriter The murdered loved one is old.I disagree. It's not how often the plot device is used, but what the author does with it. When an author does an outstanding job with an idea, theme or device it makes no difference if it is over-used, cliche, or old. They are bringing something new to it. The reverse is often true, if an author does not put the effort into an idea, it doesn't matter how fresh or original it is, it seems old and weary.
Originally posted by Ladygalactor777The scary thing is LG, is you could probably sell that with just about that much development in today's world. However, with some real development, it could also be very good.Originally posted by amethystOk a new one, he is a spy who used to be working for the FBI but is gay & in the closet then he decide to train the science ninja team and come out...!!! Like those stupid reality shows! O may be he was a serial killer!Originally posted by UnpublishedWriter The murdered loved one is old.I disagree. It's not how often the plot device is used, but what the author does with it. When an author does an outstanding job with an idea, theme or device it makes no difference if it is over-used, cliche, or old. They are bringing something new to it. The reverse is often true, if an author does not put the effort into an idea, it doesn't matter how fresh or original it is, it seems old and weary.
Myself, I don't see any deep personal tragedies or losses in Dr. Nambu's past, like murdered spouse or children (not brooding and angry enough, perhaps?). I've got the impression that he probably had a fairly privileged childhood -weathy parents, the best schools, all sorts of open doors and opportunites, that sort of thing- but might have had parents/mentors/teachers that also instilled in him the notion that he should strive to do good and use his skills and knowledge to "give back" and make the world better, and a strong ethical code of right and wrong as well as a deep appreciation for scientific advancements. Sort of like a scientist "Bruce Wayne," except one that, instead of donning a super hero uniform himself, adopted a bunch of kids and trained them to do it.
I could also well believe that, for a time in his youth, he might well have "run wild," before some occurance (a war, an environmental catastrophe of some kind maybe) brought him up short and made him refocus and evaluate his life and goals. Even though he apparently never married, I wouldn't be surprised if, at one time, he'd had a girlfriend or even a fiance, but ended up facing circumstances where he felt he had to renounce all that to devote himself to what he perceived to be a higher duty. He certainly seems to expect the Ninjas to give up a lot, in their personal lives, in order to save the world so I wouldn't be surprised if he himself had too.
Interesting theory LB. I like the Bruce Wayne connection, but he did have the deep personal tragedy and loss with the murder of his parents.
Originally posted by Transmute Jun And I like the idea of a tragedy being the life-altering event that changes his perspective... maybe a fiance killed by Galactor?Or a parent, if he were a teen in University. Or even a parent and a fiance. A double whammy. And discovering that they are "killed by Galactor" is what gives Nambu his first inklings of the organization and their "actions." I like that idea.
condorcandi
Gatchamaniac
posted 9 Aug 2010 21:07
"S-22" by Jane Lebak has Jun and Ryu finding out a hidden secret of Nambu's past. The kind that made me want to cry with both sorrow at Nambu's loss and joy at Jun's compassion.
http://www.gatchfanfic.com/viewstory.php?sid=555
Ladygalactor777
Boardie
posted 9 Aug 2010 21:18
Originally posted by amethystSome times I think like a criminal...Originally posted by Ladygalactor777The scary thing is LG, is you could probably sell that with just about that much development in today's world. However, with some real development, it could also be very good.Originally posted by amethystOk a new one, he is a spy who used to be working for the FBI but is gay & in the closet then he decide to train the science ninja team and come out...!!! Like those stupid reality shows! O may be he was a serial killer!Originally posted by UnpublishedWriter The murdered loved one is old.I disagree. It's not how often the plot device is used, but what the author does with it. When an author does an outstanding job with an idea, theme or device it makes no difference if it is over-used, cliche, or old. They are bringing something new to it. The reverse is often true, if an author does not put the effort into an idea, it doesn't matter how fresh or original it is, it seems old and weary.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Aug 2010 00:49
I like every idea that has already been offered in this thread! We have ample space where we can play, here, not knowing almost anything about Dr. Nambu's past!
The idea of Nambu living a wild, teenage life, and then redeeming himself in his adulthood, could very well be the case, as his losing a loved one (whoever the person might have been ... losing a loved one, especially in particular circumstances, always leaves a mark on those who are left behind!), or having had something tragic which had happened in his past. I also like LB's theory of Nambu always being a model student, of firm character, and having been brought up with a moral.
What if Dr. Nambu had been an orphan himself, having had a hard childhood in the streets?! He might have been spared from such a miserable life by having had the fortune of being adopted and raised by a wealthy and ethical couple, who couldn't have had children and who worked in the scientific field (this could explain his inheriting his present wealth and his line of study)! Then, having had this opportunity, he wanted to do the same by adopting, and gathering the SNT, and use all that was in his power to protect the Earth! He might have been an intelligent child from the very beginning, with a very high IQ, fortunate enough to have had the chance of exploiting his talents!
meridianday
Galaxy Girl
posted 10 Aug 2010 01:36
Originally posted by Transmute Jun I'm not sure why you feel you would have been flamed, Meridian. I can totally see a young Nambu going wild before he settles down. Heck, maybe he was a hellraiser and then something happened in his past to 'sober him up' and put him on a different life path. Maybe some life-changing event made him alter his ways... I'd love to see another perspective on it!Ah, I know I'd never get flamed here
I wrote it before Gatchamania existed. It might have been so long ago that is was before the yahoo list, back when Gatchaman communication was via the GML, which had over a thousand members and was totally unmoderated. You would not believe some of the trolling and flaming that happend on there just as a regular part of the way things worked. It was a vicious place.
I have no idea whether the fic still exists or not. I suspect it's on a pc with a broken power supply, but I can't be sure. It's been at least 3 pcs since I would have written it, and it could have easily got lost.
Wasn't there a theory that he had ninja training?
Standard rebelios child who escaped from the restrains of a dominant father figure (that's how he saw it) who wanted him to enter the family business, he would escape when he could ,to hang out with his cooler friends who did street fighting, muck about (there he would learn tough lessons, lock picking etc) and thrive on it, his father would find him and force him back. they would fight, argue and his father would turn it back on him (he then learned how to minimise his emotions and hid his reaction)
Something happened to change that, eg his father lost his business , blamed him, them committed suicide so not to bring shame on the family (not sure on Japanese culture) out of guilt Nambu throws himself into his work, found his way into science, then to ISO
Perhaps that is why he is so hard on Joe - he knows the road Joe may be heading down - but he ends up being like his father in his approach,
He is secretive cause that how he learned to protect himself,
He does not tell the team everthing - cause in his own head he things he is protecting them
He had a very interesting childhood surounded by interesting people (working for his father? japanese marfia?) and learned less than law abiding traits, (that how he knows Spectra will not play by earth rules (if he was them he wouldn't)
Above average intelligence , but is drive to prove himself - maybe to prove his father wrong that he is not useless...
As for women/ men he does or has dated, but maybe he is emotional challenged when it comes to confiding and only passionate in bed (eww bad images in head about him giving Joe pointers)
so...?! random thought..end..
meridianday
Galaxy Girl
posted 10 Aug 2010 03:46
In Gatchaman Fighter, prior to Nambu dying, he shows he has rather good fighting abilities. I think from that the theory has come that he at least partially trained the team himself.
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Aug 2010 04:13
Originally posted by meridianday In Gatchaman Fighter, prior to Nambu dying, he shows he has rather good fighting abilities. I think from that the theory has come that he at least partially trained the team himself.You're right, Meridianday ... I think this aspect of his was highlighted in the episode when Jun had escorted Dr. Nambu to the laboratory where they could have acquired the new treatment which they thought could have saved Ken! I remember myself being left flabbergasted at seeing this new Dr. Nambu! There's no real fact that implies that he had taken part in their training, but, after seeing this episode I could imagine many suppositions taking place!
Originally posted by gatchamarie What if Dr. Nambu had been an orphan himself...A very intriguing idea.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 10 Aug 2010 07:05
Wow, so many interesting thoughts! I especially love the idea that Nambu was an orphan himself, and became a 'scientist Bruce Wayne'... heck, I'm almost inspired to write a fic about Nambu now! Not like I'm in the middle of others....
And Meridian, if you can find that fic of yours, I know we'd love to see it!
Did anyone ever consider a possibility of Nambu being like Raphael... working for the enemy, not knowing it, and then once he realized what they were doing, he left?
And Meridian, if you can find that fic of yours, I know we'd love to see it!
Did anyone ever consider a possibility of Nambu being like Raphael... working for the enemy, not knowing it, and then once he realized what they were doing, he left?
Just my lil ole theory --
I always saw it playing out something along these lines --
Nambu was born to well-to-do parents, and he had the high-IQ, advanced fast in school, but then got bored, or maybe was tired of always being labeled "different" and "special" and so rebelled and enlisted (to the horror of his parents) in a branch of the military service. It would be here that he would not only learn the essential military fighting skills that he would pass along to the SNT, but he would also meet Kentaro Washio.
While serving, he traveled around the globe and saw firsthand the devestation that not only war produced, but also pollution and the like.
So inspired, after his tour of duty was over, he immersed himself into his studies, then research in the ISO. He decided not to marry or have children of his own, because he knew so many other children orphaned due to war or disease that needed a home...then he stumbled across something bigger...and his higher purpose was revealed to him...
meridianday
Galaxy Girl
posted 10 Aug 2010 08:38
I like that.
Originally posted by RIgirl Just my lil ole theory -- I always saw it playing out something along these lines -- Nambu was born to well-to-do parents, and he had the high-IQ, advanced fast in school, but then got bored, or maybe was tired of always being labeled "different" and "special" and so rebelled and enlisted (to the horror of his parents) in a branch of the military service. It would be here that he would not only learn the essential military fighting skills that he would pass along to the SNT, but he would also meet Kentaro Washio. While serving, he traveled around the globe and saw firsthand the devestation that not only war produced, but also pollution and the like. So inspired, after his tour of duty was over, he immersed himself into his studies, then research in the ISO. He decided not to marry or have children of his own, because he knew so many other children orphaned due to war or disease that needed a home...then he stumbled across something bigger...and his higher purpose was revealed to him...You are going to write this story for us, yes? You've already put so much thought into it, it would be a waste for it to not get any farther than this summary.
I hadn't planned on it, Amethyst. I always just figure no one would really be interested in reading something like that...
We're discussing it aren't we? That means will read it. All you gotta do is write and then let us know where you've posted it, and it will be read.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Aug 2010 10:39
Originally posted by lborgia88 Myself, I don't see any deep personal tragedies or losses in Dr. Nambu's past, like murdered spouse or children (not brooding and angry enough, perhaps?). I've got the impression that he probably had a fairly privileged childhood -weathy parents, the best schools, all sorts of open doors and opportunites, that sort of thing- but might have had parents/mentors/teachers that also instilled in him the notion that he should strive to do good and use his skills and knowledge to "give back" and make the world better, and a strong ethical code of right and wrong as well as a deep appreciation for scientific advancements. Sort of like a scientist "Bruce Wayne," except one that, instead of donning a super hero uniform himself, adopted a bunch of kids and trained them to do it.I like this idea LB. It is similar to what I use in my AU although in my stories, as LW suggests, Anderson has a domineering/controlling father. And although Anderson does not runaway from his father he does enter into, and eventually runs the family business. Because the "business" was a counter-terrorism organization and Anderson had "agent" training. He has also learned to keep secrets "close" and not to reveal everything to others until all information is gathered. Which is why he leaves the team in the dark so often. With his high IQ he has also studied in the field of the sciences which allows him to understand the scientific information his company uncovers, but he has a team of scientists under his employment who use the information to prevent Global Warming and "green" the planet. (Much like Nambu is doing in Gatch.)
Originally posted by RIgirl Just my lil ole theory -- I always saw it playing out something along these lines -- Nambu was born to well-to-do parents, and he had the high-IQ, advanced fast in school, but then got bored, or maybe was tired of always being labeled "different" and "special" and so rebelled and enlisted (to the horror of his parents) in a branch of the military service. It would be here that he would not only learn the essential military fighting skills that he would pass along to the SNT, but he would also meet Kentaro Washio. While serving, he traveled around the globe and saw firsthand the devestation that not only war produced, but also pollution and the like. So inspired, after his tour of duty was over, he immersed himself into his studies, then research in the ISO. He decided not to marry or have children of his own, because he knew so many other children orphaned due to war or disease that needed a home...then he stumbled across something bigger...and his higher purpose was revealed to him...I like this theory RIgirl. I second Amethyst voice in asking to see this as a story .... Go for it. Meridian - I would love to read your story as well! We ENCOURAGE writers here, we would never flame anyone.
Ladygalactor777
Boardie
posted 10 Aug 2010 10:56
Originally posted by RIgirl I hadn't planned on it, Amethyst. I always just figure no one would really be interested in reading something like that...I read it!! I enjoy every stories that you guys do...the problem is that I don't have that skill, I suck at writing, but I am very visual! Go for it...write your ass off!!!!
Ladygalactor777
Boardie
posted 10 Aug 2010 10:57
Originally posted by clouddancerIDEM!Originally posted by RIgirl Just my lil ole theory -- I always saw it playing out something along these lines -- Nambu was born to well-to-do parents, and he had the high-IQ, advanced fast in school, but then got bored, or maybe was tired of always being labeled "different" and "special" and so rebelled and enlisted (to the horror of his parents) in a branch of the military service. It would be here that he would not only learn the essential military fighting skills that he would pass along to the SNT, but he would also meet Kentaro Washio. While serving, he traveled around the globe and saw firsthand the devestation that not only war produced, but also pollution and the like. So inspired, after his tour of duty was over, he immersed himself into his studies, then research in the ISO. He decided not to marry or have children of his own, because he knew so many other children orphaned due to war or disease that needed a home...then he stumbled across something bigger...and his higher purpose was revealed to him...I like this theory RIgirl. I second Amethyst voice in asking to see this as a story .... Go for it. Meridian - I would love to read your story as well! We ENCOURAGE writers here, we would never flame anyone.
CD, when are we going to see more of your AU? I'd like to see this back story of yours.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Aug 2010 11:13
Keep poking and it might come out, Amethyst.
Although I keep figuring I have told you all enough that you do not NEED (or want) to read any more of it.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 10 Aug 2010 11:50
RI, I love that background that you created! I hink it would be wonderful if you fleshed that out into a ficm or a series of small ficlets.
I am borrowing TJ's pokey stick for RI
and CD
I think both need a few additional pokes
for not only doubting your own abilities, but your readers desire to read. CD, I'm beginning to think you're a market expert testing the market for your product and drawing the consumer in with hints to increase curiosity. For that you get an additional poke
and CD
I think both need a few additional pokes
for not only doubting your own abilities, but your readers desire to read. CD, I'm beginning to think you're a market expert testing the market for your product and drawing the consumer in with hints to increase curiosity. For that you get an additional poke
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Aug 2010 14:25
Originally posted by amethyst CD, I'm beginning to think you're a market expert testing the market for your product and drawing the consumer in with hints to increase curiosity. For that you get an additional pokeThat is me, increase people's interest so they want to read my boring stories.
UnpublishedWriter
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Aug 2010 15:08
CD - Not boring. Not, not boring. Hell, I want to read the damn thing after all the 'talk' we had about it.
Trust me, folks, interesting stuff.
Meridianday - Even if you can't find what you originally wrote, you do remember the plot and outline? You could write it again.
RIGirl - Go! Do it! And maybe explore Kentaro Washio a bit.
Meridianday - Even if you can't find what you originally wrote, you do remember the plot and outline? You could write it again.
RIGirl - Go! Do it! And maybe explore Kentaro Washio a bit.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Aug 2010 15:34
Thank you for your encouragement UW.
CD, I've read your other stories. They are not boring!
RI, remember the story you were talking about a few weeks ago, this idea would work perfect with it just as UW suggests.
Meridian, power supply problems can be fixed rather easily. Heck, I think you can take it to most computer stores that do work on them and I'd be wiling to be they can recover most of the data on your hard drive for you.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Aug 2010 15:44
Maybe I should find another word then .... like hmmmm, mundane or prosaic come to mind. Words my teachers and professors used to describe my "creative" work.
Words that made me give up writing. (Sorry their voices still ring loudly in my ears when I think about my work especially when I think about having to POST my work.)
Did they laugh at you? One of mine did, not because of my argument or support, but because the spell check was worse than it is now and it missed several words that I also missed in my rush to met the deadline for the student paper. What's worse, while she was laughing at me, she told the rest of the faculty was laughing, too.
Every time you listen to those voices, you let them win. Don't! Prove them wrong!
Originally posted by RIgirl I hadn't planned on it, Amethyst. I always just figure no one would really be interested in reading something like that...I love your idea and I for one would read it!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Aug 2010 16:17
Originally posted by amethyst Did they laugh at you? One of mine did, not because of my argument or support, but because the spell check was worse than it is now and it missed several words that I also missed in my rush to met the deadline for the student paper. What's worse, while she was laughing at me, she told the rest of the faculty was laughing, too. Every time you listen to those voices, you let them win. Don't! Prove them wrong!No THEY did not laugh at me, but my high school peers did when they heard the comments. Thank you for the advice, Amethyst. Most of the time I try to ignore them. Hey I am now writing again. But when it comes to having to post, then they come back and roar in my ears.
Okay, here's the problem. Not that I wouldn't like to write the story, or anything, but....
I have no idea where to post it...or how...and I keep reading about things called beta (which I only know as either a fish or the really old videotapes that came out before VHS).
I'm still thrilled that I can just post this message...!
And UW, for this is you
The only way people would read about Red Impulse is if I treated him like the enemy. There's no way people would read a story that's sympathetic to him.
Heck, people are willing to give Berg Katse more benefit of the doubt than Red Impulse! Sigh.
The only way people would read about Red Impulse is if I treated him like the enemy. There's no way people would read a story that's sympathetic to him.
Heck, people are willing to give Berg Katse more benefit of the doubt than Red Impulse! Sigh.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 10 Aug 2010 16:30
Originally posted by clouddancer Most of the time I try to ignore them. Hey I am now writing again. But when it comes to having to post, then they come back and roar in my ears.CD, how many times have I told you? When you hear those voices, LMK and I will
them back for you!!!!!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 10 Aug 2010 16:31
RIGirl, write the fic. Then, ask someone you know and trust (perhaps someone from this board) to read it over for you. This person will make plot suggestions, and/or grammar and spelling notes. This is called beta'ing. After you've had that other person beta/edit it, then they can help you get it posted too.
UnpublishedWriter
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Aug 2010 16:34
RIGirl, I'm trying to figure out Kentaro so that I can give him a more sympathetic treatment. Not doing so well. Probably because I can't figure out where in the Galactor organization he's undercover, and what he's doing. He's in Hontwarl, he's working his way through the ranks, but I can't get any farther.
This is a man who left his wife and child to go undercover. Why did he make that decision? What happened to him while he was undercover? Is that why he's such a jerk-ass?
I answered a challenge on this site and wrote a short piece called 'Kentaro's Sacrifice'. About his last days. Some people liked it, some people still thought he was a bastard.
RIgirl, you could post it here, or on Gatchfanfic. Several of the people on these boards have work there!
And as for people not liking the guy in Red -pbbbt. First, you write Cronus/RI very very well.
Second, good writing is good writing. A good story is a good story. I've read many many well-written stories where I didn't necessarily like all the characters. What mattered was being able to understand them, why they do what they do whether it's good or bad. One of the first things to draw me to anime and manga was that the characters had reasons for their behavior. Being able to understand a character, regardless of how negative they are, is important.
I know you can make a wonderful fic. Go for it!
Originally posted by UnpublishedWriter RIGirl, I'm trying to figure out Kentaro so that I can give him a more sympathetic treatment. Not doing so well. Probably because I can't figure out where in the Galactor organization he's undercover, and what he's doing. He's in Hontwarl, he's working his way through the ranks, but I can't get any farther. This is a man who left his wife and child to go undercover. Why did he make that decision? What happened to him while he was undercover? Is that why he's such a jerk-ass? I answered a challenge on this site and wrote a short piece called 'Kentaro's Sacrifice'. About his last days. Some people liked it, some people still thought he was a bastard.Honestly UW? I never had the impression that it was his choice to leave or stay. Which would explain why he took it out on...just about everybody in reach. By the time he re-enters Ken's life, I think he was completely disgusted and through with it all, but by then he was in too deep and couldn't just walk away. The fact that Onishii and Masaki remained loyal to him through it all...and even after he died (which brings up another point--if his whole mission was the V-2, then it should have ended when he died. But it didn't. Masaki later told Ken that they took it upon themselves to pick up where Kentaro left off, which means he got more thrown at him as time went by, or things got waaaayyy more complicated than Nambu originally thought it was), which proves that he couldn't have been as bad as he let everyone think he was.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 10 Aug 2010 17:11
Originally posted by RIgirlAnd UW, for this is youI have to refute that RIgirl. There are a lot of people who would love to read a sympathetic story about RI, I would Mostly because it is great to read something different and something that opens up my eyes to another way of thinking. Yes it is nice to treat RI as an antagonist to the team, because there needs to be one in the story to advance some of the story lines and because the hero needs to have one (or two, as far as I am concerned). But seeing a more caring side to him is also nice because it gives another reason WHY he would be "pushing" our hero so hard. Please write and post your stories about RI for ALL to read.The only way people would read about Red Impulse is if I treated him like the enemy. There's no way people would read a story that's sympathetic to him. Heck, people are willing to give Berg Katse more benefit of the doubt than Red Impulse! Sigh.
Originally posted by RIgirl Okay, here's the problem. Not that I wouldn't like to write the story, or anything, but.... I have no idea where to post it...or how...and I keep reading about things called beta (which I only know as either a fish or the really old videotapes that came out before VHS).#1 Where to post? That's easy! Post it here. Gatchfanfic is a very good archive. Adultfanfiction and Fanfiction.net allow anybody to post. Chaos at Sycophant Hex accepts a wide variety of fandoms and original work. Should I list more? #2 What is a beta? Think of a beta reader like an editor. Some are fangirls that just give encouragement, but a good beta will not only give you encouragement, but help you to make your story better by pointing errors that had been missed, plot holes or inconsistencies, ideas that need more fleshing out (or maybe ones that need less). If you need a beta, RI, I will happily do it for you.
Thanks, Amethyst. I will keep your generous offer in mind, if and when I ever get to that point!
Originally posted by RIgirl Thanks, Amethyst. I will keep your generous offer in mind, if and when I ever get to that point!WHEN! And I look forward to it
gatchamarie
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Aug 2010 00:22
More poking from me!
... one for RI, one for Meridianday, and a big one for CD!
... one for RI, one for Meridianday, and a big one for CD!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Aug 2010 04:42
Wow. We have a lot of people around here using pokey sticks these days.
At one time it seemed to be only a few of us who were forced to poke others. Of course the board seems to have become much more active since then.
At one time it seemed to be only a few of us who were forced to poke others. Of course the board seems to have become much more active since then.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 11 Aug 2010 07:21
I think the point is... we all want to see your writing, CD!!!!!!!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Aug 2010 07:41
Okay, okay. I get the picture.
Now let me see .....
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 11 Aug 2010 11:46
Hiding won't do you any good....
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 Aug 2010 12:07
It may, for a couple of weeks anyways.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 11 Aug 2010 12:38
I'll give you a couple of weeks... after that, my leniency will abate...
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