My beloved certainly knows how to worry me!! He's currently in hospital having tests for suspected kidney stones. Apparently he woke up this morning with pain enough to call an ambulance (which, as any female knows, means it would be enough to nearly kill anybody!) and was taken to hospital. Waiting to hear on results of scans and when he'll be out. *sniff* Missing him already.

Ohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoh.... NOOOOoooooooooooo..... Poor Ste! Poor Maddy! Thinking of you both, honey!

Ouch! I've known several people who have had those and they say it is incredably painful. Hope all goes well, and as painlessly as possible, and that he's out soon and back with you, and us. both Maddy and Ste.

Please send my best wishes to Ste, Maddy! I, too, have family members and friends that have that same condition and, sometimes, it's not a very pleasant one! I'll pray for him to be fine soon, and for you to face this moment the best you can! We're all here for you, dear! Take care!

Oh my poor baby boy!!!!! Send him snuggles from my way, babeeee ... I hope all is okay with him!! Snuggles to you too, babe ... :wibbles:

Same from me, fingers crossed he will be back with you soon. I'll add my best wishes that he's out and about ASAP Also send you a big hug and with lots of added strength as you wait to hear.

Oh, Maddy! Please tell Ste I hope he's feeling better soon -- he will definitely be missed until he's back! Hugs to you both, along with my wishes that he'll be up and about in a hurry!

Ouch! I'm so sorry to hear that! Hugs to you both...and please keep us updated!

Maddy, give Ste our best when you talk to him. Hope he recovers quickly and is back in the nest with us soon.

Maddy, next time you talk with him, tell him he's missed and we hope he gets better soon.

Thanks everybody. They're keeping him in overnight - concerned that his white blood cell count is a little high, probably from the stones. Still...... *worries* One of those times when being on the othr side of the planet to my beloved is the horrbilest thing in the world.

hugs, Maddy! It's not easy whether you're in the same room, around the corner, or around the world. As hard as it is, were ever you are, you won't do him much good if you don't take care of yourself because you're too worried.

Sorry to hear that Madi. I hear they can be really painful! Hope he has a speedy recovery!

Originally posted by Madilayn My beloved certainly knows how to worry me!! He's currently in hospital having tests for suspected kidney stones. Apparently he woke up this morning with pain enough to call an ambulance (which, as any female knows, means it would be enough to nearly kill anybody!) and was taken to hospital. Waiting to hear on results of scans and when he'll be out. *sniff* Missing him already.

Oh Maddy! I'm so sorry! I hope he'll recover!

Hope he's feeling better really soon thinking of you xx

Has it been confirmed that it's kidney stones? I can only hope that Ste gets better soon! My thoughts are with you guys!

Yup - confirmed it's kidney stones. He's in for an uncomfortable few days I think!

Are they going to try any treatments to dissolve them or break them up to make them easier to pass?

Oh, Maddy! Well, actually - Oh, poor Ste! I know it's hard being here and him being there, hun. My father almost died during my first year in Japan and no one thought to tell me about it - until he was cleared. All I wanted to do was fly back just for a hug... I'm thinking of you both and to both of you! In a week everything will be fine - the week just has to go first... *sigh*

I've been told Kidney stones are the one way men can get an idea what labor pains feel like. Send him a giant get well card from all of us.

Originally posted by Becky Rock I've been told Kidney stones are the one way men can get an idea what labor pains feel like. Send him a giant get well card from all of us.

I second that.

My dad had kidney stones. Nasty. (The father of a friend of mine had the following advice: drink a six-pack of beer and jump up and down to dislodge the stone. That sounds like the worst. advice. ever.)

I had kidney stones when I was pregnant with my daughter -Aaaghhh!! Poor Ste! I've heard -from the teacher in a Health Unit Coordinator class- that kidney stones can be harder on men because of the longer pathway. Best wishes and hugs to you both!

I hope they find out soon for him whats causing the pain, and he's on the mend in no time.

I suspect that if his white cell count evens out, he will be let out in the morning.

Oh poor Ste! The BF had them once, but if I recall, once he'd been put on morphine it was relatively bearable and they passed within a couple days. Best wishes to him (and you) for a speedy recovery!

Free! Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! ...of hospital, that is. Still, apparently, have the stones. One on each side. Never do things the easy way, me...

It's good to hear you'e out. What's the prognosis?

Poor Ste!

Welcom back!

Glad to hear from you, Ste! I hope you'll feel better soon and that your problem will be definitely solved in a way or another! Take lots of care in the meantime!

Welcome back! Hope you're back to better in no time!

Ste! I'd glomp you but I'm concerned that in your current situation it would hurt. And Maddy would hurt me. Fingers crossed that all, um, passes without much pain - or enough drugs to make it fun! Welcome back!

Originally posted by green or enough drugs to make it fun!

My one experience with the fun stuff was when I was 15 and had just had my wisdom teeth removed -codeine had me so high I was basically hallucinating that I was flying around in the back yard, when I was really in bed. Unfortunately, I told my mother about this and she promptly reduced my dosage. I hope you're doing okay, Ste!

I don't remember anything from when I had my wisdom teeth removed. I had to go completely under and then once they were done, I was thrown to my mother's care. She tells me we had an argument in the car on the way home. I wanted vodka. She wouldn't give me any. And my lip was something that was freaking me right out. Apparently I wouldn't accept that it was mine despite being attached to my face - which was the problem I was having with it in the first place... *sigh* I missed all the good stuff of being legally stoned - and she didn't. Even after ten years she can't talk about the trip home without laughing until she cries and I haven't got a single memory of it....

I didn't have much trouble with my wisdom teeth coming out. (I told them to knock me flat; if someone's cutting at me, I DON'T want to be awake for it!) My big experience with codeine came after the very difficult birth of my son. Very interesting dreams. But I wound up throwing out the last few pills because I started wanting to take it just to take it. Not good. And I did talk it over with my doctor.

Green - I'm laughing until I cry at your brief telling of the trip!!

For a bit of surgery to make a crown possible (tooth broke), I was given something, and while my brain seemed to be working as well as ever, whenever I spoke, well, I Had To Speak Slowly And Clearly. If I ever said anything truly effed up, my mother didn't pass it on.

Oh, Green! Yours is quite a story and it's hilarious how different drugs have different effects on those who take them! I'm allergic to most of them, so I don't even know where to begin to explain their effect on me! I had my four wisdom teeth extracted at once when I was 26 years old during a 2 and a half hour operation ... they had never appeared at all at the surface and I was risking the growth of cysts which could have lead to infection. Obviously, during the operation I was under anaesthetic the entire time, so I didn't feel anything when they were cutting ... the pain came afterwards, when the effect was over, and loads of it! I had a swollen, bruised and sore face for days and I sincerely don't know how my fiance', who's now my DH, didn't leave me for good after seeing such a horrible scene! We still laugh when we recall those days! The most immediate thing that I remember after the surgery is that I threw up for several long hours before my interior was entirely cleared from the anaesthetic, which my body seemed to have not fancied at all, and that I was in a very bad mood! I didn't want anyone around me and I still feel guilty for not treating my parents and my fiance' so well when they only wanted to keep me company and see that I was well! Another thing that I surely will never forget is that, even if I weren't that much cooperative, my dear mother, who was already very sick, that day being some months before her passing away, wanted to watch over me all through the night to ensure that I was okay. I remember quarrelling with her because I didn't want her to tire out, but she told me, "You've stayed with me for entire nights at the hospital ... now it's my turn to do my part!" She didn't need to add more ... I then knew how much it was important for her to do so when she had been long dreading the fact of her becoming useless due to her illness. So, I quietened and let her stay with me in my room ... that was the last night we had spent together ... just a few months afterwards I got married and then she eventually passed away.

Oh my...wisdom teeth...I had mine removed right before I got married...and the doctor couldn't find a vein so that he could put me out. He stuck me 8 times...I was such a wreck by the end of it, my knees were jumping off the seat! Finally, he gave me a choice...I could either go to the hospital to be put under anesthesia, or I could stay awake and he would give me laughing gas and painkillers while he cut the teeth out. I chose to stay awake. Big mistake. I could hear everything going on and feel pressure. He'd say, "You're going to feel a little tug..." and my whole head would come up off the seat as he pulled! I could also hear the squeak of the thread as he stitched me up. Apparently, the laughing gas wasn't working, because I wasn't laughing! When my fiance and mom walked in afterward, I finally broke down crying. Later that day, my fiance (DH) gave me a coke ...we weren't thinking...the bubbles hit the back where the teeth had been removed...yeeeeeouuuuch! We both still talk about it...he felt so bad.

Originally posted by Springie I could also hear the squeak of the thread as he stitched me up.

Oh God! That's the worst sensation! I have had that experience after giving birth to both of my kids! The stitching up was a torture, especially as there was a lot of stitching involved in both cases and as not everywhere could be made numb! Oh boy, what a subject we're coming across! We'd better stop or we'll frighten poor Ste to death instead of comforting him!! Sorry Ste!

Ste, take comfort that you're not getting your wisdom teeth cut out! Haha... Really, though...hope this whole thing is over with soon...I know you must be in pain!

Awwww. Why is it we always hear such horror stories about having wisdom teeth removed? Are they such a "pain" for everyone? Or is it, like airplane disasters and car accidents, we only hear about the bad and never the good?

CD ... you're right! You know what was the positive aspect of the story?! I had all the excuses in the world to eat lots of ice-cream and jelly afterwards!!

Same as when you have tonsils removed. Yum!

Originally posted by clouddancer Awwww. Why is it we always hear such horror stories about having wisdom teeth removed? Are they such a "pain" for everyone? Or is it, like airplane disasters and car accidents, we only hear about the bad and never the good?

I suppose because it is a traumatic experience for most people. Dental procedures aren't usually "good" ... there is a particular reason for people being scared shitless of them. Can't think of anything particularly "good" about Airplane disasters or Car accidents either...

Originally posted by SJ_SwanJun Can't think of anything particularly "good" about Airplane disasters or Car accidents either...

I agree it would not be, but what I was saying is you never hear about the 10 000 airplanes that land safely everyday. Or the 500 000 cars that are driven to and from work in your city without incident. Or the million children that make it home safely from school every day. Or any of the other good things that happen daily around us. We only hear about the disasters that occur. The news is created to incite fear into people ... report on the BAD not the good. I agree that is what people want to hear about, and I can not see any way around it. I see a little of that in this thread with the talk about removal of wisdom teethl. Yes, I hate visiting the dentist ... like so many I have had bad experiences, but I have NEVER heard anyone say having my molars removed was "a breeze." So I was just wondering if it is not possible to have a good experience with their removal. Maybe it is only a good experience if you DO NOT need them removed. * shrug *

I think you're right Cloud. Most people do seem to have a bad time with wisdom teeth removal - I don't know anybody who has had it done tht it was easy! However, statistics say that there must be millions who don't have a problem.

My brother claimed that having his wisdom taken out (I think he was 1 was no big deal, and I have no recollection of him lying around in bed groaning in pain, or anything like that -so I guess he had it easy. I think for many people who haven't given birth or had kidney stones, wisdom teeth removal is the most painful experience they've endured (that's certainly my case).

So, Ste? Feeling any better after reading through all of these stories? *snicker* Just remember -- this too shall pass...

RI that's almost cruel Wisdom teeth are supposed to come out? Um, codiene. It ain't all it's cracked up to be. Three C-sections, only needed it at night for the first two (probably could have used advil just as well, but the perscription was free through the discharge pharmacy). Except for that time two weeks after the second, I crawled into the middle of the mini-van next to the car seat, so that my father-in-law could sit in front as we drove to Occidental to see my sister-in-law and her first born. The third one however, considering I was chasing an 18 mo old, I needed it every six hours, but still think advil would have worked just as well. Never made me loopy or anything. And why do people smoke pot to curve nausea? All the damn stuff does is make me want to puke and I don't even have to smoke it for that, just be around people who are.

I'm a mutant. I broke my heel, and the hospital ER gave me morphine after the half-cast increased the pain. Didn't work. Not even with a second dose. Removing the half-cast and putting on a soft splint worked much better. To be honest, except for actual surgery, I've never been on strong painkillers. And after seeing what that shit did my mother (back pain from hell), I think I'll pass. Especially after one dumb-ass doctor decided to add methadone to her cocktail. She collapsed, and wasn't able to do a damn thing for herself for six days. Ste, I hope it's all turned out for you.

I only had bottom wisdom teeth and my older sister had top - together we had a set! Prior to having mine out in college, I'd been hit in the jaw in softball with a line drive while running from first base to second. It dislocated my jaw. I was told it could only be repaired by breaking it - I said no thanks. To this day jaw, if I open my jaw wide, it pops. I don't do well with dental procedures but they wouldn't knock me out when I had mine removed. They were impacted and it took forever. I had trouble closing my jaw after and swelled up so bad I could have given a chipmunk loaded with nuts a run for its money. The codeine made me sick, so I worshiped the porcelin god for hours and then went to sleep. When I woke up, I coudn't open my jaw. The doctor in the emergency room said the muslces had temporarily locked and gave me a muscle relaxant. I spent two days trying to suck water, milkshakes and liquid jello (which actually isn't so bad) through a straw through my teeth. In contract, my husband had his pulled a few years ago and was up and running within 6 hours.

Originally posted by amethyst And why do people smoke pot to curve nausea? All the damn stuff does is make me want to puke and I don't even have to smoke it for that, just be around people who are.

This one's easy ... THC suppresses the gag reflex (in most people -- not everyone) ... and eases the feeling of nausea... It is one of the reasons it is considered very stupid (dangerous?) to smoke pot and go out drinking. Someone drunk will vomit as a warning that the person is coming close to alcohol poisoning (and dehydration) -- most intelligent people will stop drinking once they throw up -- if THC is in the blood stream, then the body is less likely to give you this heads up.

Hope you're feeling better, Ste! Maybe you can be as fortunate as my mum was with it ... Dunno how it happened, but when she got kidney stones ... she threw them up... Saved her having to pass them the other way ... Big huggies to you, babe. hope it all goes well for you.

I don't even want to think about wisdom teeth! I'm the biggest needle wimp and I hate the dentist... But back to the original topic, Ste, I hope you're feeling better!

Here's something good that happened concerning the dentist -my son finally got over his phobia! Now they don't have to dope him to the gills! Ste, I sincerely hope you're feeling better. It's a pain to be between... um, better not say it.