Okay can anyone tell me the exact colors that the team members wear (got a project in mind but I need specific colours G1 - white, red and Blue(navy?), visor - blue, cape blue/red G2 - red, brown (blue/black)(some pictures show a violet colour, some look like a green color, visor violet/blue? cape blue/? G3 - white , red, pink , visor - yellowis? cape white/red? G4- yellow, red, blue, visor - violet? cape blue/green? G5- brown, red, green (emerald or forest?), visor green cape green/red red and yellow belts, visors Does it differ from BOTP and Gatchaman? Big thanks , the more I watch the episodes the more the colors seem to blend, and there seems to be a slight difference in some of the drawing I have googles, they give me basic colors , but not specific colors Got me some Gatch-craft project on the boil

Since BotP is Gatch with crappy animation added, there are no differences in the colors between the shows. (You can confirm all the colors with the screen-caps in the reviews.) G1's cape is white with a red lining. His helmet is white with red and black markings. Blue-tinted visor. G2's main outfit is a color I can't be sure of. His wings and boots are dark blue, and his helmet is black. G3 wears a pink mini-dress and white boots, gloves, and helmet. Her cape is white with red lining. Yellowish tint to her visor. G4 is a colorful little bugger. Yellowish outfit, with reddish boots and gloves. The cape's blue. G5 has a weird hue for the boots and gloves. It's a green I can't identify. Brown main outfit, and green helmet and cape. His visor is blueish.

I'd say that the visor for Ryu and Joe are both a blue violet color. Jinpei's visor is a yellowish green. Joe's bodysuit is a mix of brown and red...sort of maroon. If you're using Photoshop, a good way to get the right colors is to open a screenshot and use the eyedropper icon to pick the correct color off of the screenshot. Then, you can use it for your picture. I do that a lot when I'm not sure of the exact color.

I agree with Springie on the Condor's colors; his bodysuit is maroon and depending upon the lighting/background (or just how good the artist did coloring him) appears a little more brown or a little more red which makes it harder to pin down.

Hi all!

Joe's bodysuit is a mix of brown and red...sort of maroon.

If you want to get technical, Joe's bodysuit is R5 if in the light and R16 if shadowed. These numbers correspond to the paint color guide used by Japanese animation studios in the pre-computer coloring days, like this one here: Studios would create color guides for their characters, designating what colors from that chart would be used for their characters in light and shadow, like this example for Joe: Then the paint staff would simply grab a tube of the designated color of paint and use it when they were painting cels with that character. Of course, how one exactly defines what color R5 or R16 should be called is much more subjective. James

Something that can really confuse things is inking flubs. Transmute Jun and lborgia point out several in their Episode Reviews thread. The trickiest is that Joe's wings are supposed to be lighter than his cowl, but sometimes they are colored the same shade. Just be careful.

Originally posted by condorcandi The trickiest is that Joe's wings are supposed to be lighter than his cowl, but sometimes they are colored the same shade. Just be careful.

Thanks to James, now I know that Joe's wings are B6 (B7 in the shade) and his cowl, boots and gloves are B11 (B12 in the shade)! Thanks for posting this James -it's neat to see how the artists' colour system worked.

Oh James...thanks for posting that! It's really neat to see what they were doing behind the scenes...

Damn - thought I'd replied to this!! Thank you for posting that James. I love getting background detail like that!

This is great information James. Does any one who uses Photoshop know if these numbers transfer across to that program? The ink dropper idea Springie mentioned sounds the easiest way. to use the correct colours.

It helps out greatly, as for the condor, cheeky little creature like to be different, I'll try to "wing" it from here, ha ha

Well, littlewolf, the Condor is unique

Tatsunokofan -- that is so cool! I've seen similar setups that Disney used, but never another animation. Amazing what they were able to do by hand...

James, thank you for posting that colour scheme. Do you have the other characters shown that way as well? Or only the Condor?

Hi all!

Do you have the other characters shown that way as well? Or only the Condor?

I have the others. I only used Joe as an example because his uniform was being discussed. James

Originally posted by littlewolf It helps out greatly, as for the condor, cheeky little creature like to be different, I'll try to "wing" it from here, ha ha

We expect to see the finished project, LW. You've whetted our curiosity.

Will post some gatcha-craft I'm working on at the moment, probably within the next week, not sure how well they will look , put will post anyway. would have done it sooner but my sister has a staffy pup who actually ate one of the pieces. I seriously think this dog has an eating disorder, she must have something in her mouth at all times, it has serious reprocusions for anything that has stuffing in it, pillows, doonas, soft toys, in my case it was a paper mache mask oh and I need to get some more resin, find my perspex sheets, dig out my fema and find my wires and metal springs (I have evil thoughts about 7-zark-7 and 1-rover-1 involving feathers and bird missiles, the question is can what is in my head be translated into 3D image without looking like a disaster)

Puppies go through the same stages as babies, and some go through an oral phase (some grow out of it, some don't).

Just make sure that dog understand No from you. Old enough to chew up stuff is old enough to train. (My neighbors have their dogs trained to a science. So I asked to be sure.)

Originally posted by littlewolf Will post some gatcha-craft I'm working on at the moment, probably within the next week, not sure how well they will look , put will post anyway. would have done it sooner but my sister has a staffy pup who actually ate one of the pieces. I seriously think this dog has an eating disorder, she must have something in her mouth at all times, it has serious reprocusions for anything that has stuffing in it, pillows, doonas, soft toys, in my case it was a paper mache mask

The pup's eating disorder is called: being a puppy. At certain ages, they have to have something in their mouths at all times. If it isn't teething, it's just something that puppies have to do. I know this from experience.

The two best commands for oral issues are "Release" and "Leave it" Use with a firm NO for things they shouldn't have and positive reinforcement when they do right. It also helps to have rawhide or chew toys around that they learn are theirs to distract them from what they shouldn't have.

The pup has done training school, but she is so sneaky she will obey all commands , when we give them to her, but when our back is turned off she goes, and you can only reinforce a behaviour when they are doin it. She is my sisters dog and is 2.5yrs old, my sister has another dog who is 16yrs old, (with dementia and cancer but still going strong) my dog is 7yrs old sheperd/husky, (grew up with security dogs so very well trained), so a lot bigger than the pup and more dominant, keeps the pup in line, but she is trying to move her way up the pack with the 16yr old getting slower, and we think she is feeling either negliected or frustrated, so she takes it out on our stuff (more my sister stuff as I am a lot firmer with her) we had a dog trainer come in last year and it brought the pack in line more and cemented our place as the alpha, but the dynamics have changed and the pup is challenging per position in the pack more frequently ps I though she was bad until I got on a dog forum and saw what other staffys destroy, she's and angel compared to them, and she knows when she has done something wrong - I think dogs get ADD and Compulsive Disorders as well

All dogs look guilty (to some extent) when the owner gets angry. They also have the memory spans of gnats, which is why they should always be disciplined at the very moment they do something wrong. At 2.5 years old, she's hardly a puppy. But sneaky? Could be. Our Ridgy was an angel in obedience class, because the instructor brooked no bull. Once he got home, it was another story. (For a Ridgeback, 'sneaky' means being so bold that you literally do another take before leaping up to rescue the latest victim of the dog's attention. It's a game to them.) It's a matter of out-stubborning them. We succeeded in keeping them off the furniture, and bought dog-halters so we we could walk them.

Had a German Shepard cross Kelpie mutt who was smart enough that he learnt how to open the pantry (couldn't leave him outside or he'd bark himself stupid). We would come home to find iced buns that no longer had their icing, walnuts that used to be part of mixed nuts (didn't like them, apparently) and the remains of boxes of cereal in the hallway. Why the hallway? So he could us coming... We ended up taking him to a 'boarding' school where they taught the police dogs. After three weeks, the trainer wanted to keep him - not because he suddenly became the perfect dog, but because he was smart enough to think for himself and had a massive protective streak. Damn, I miss that dog. A right pain in the butt, but he knew how and when to give hugs, he knew when the person at the door was there for good or for bad (my father was embroiled in a court case that got very nasty) and he knew just how to cheer up any day... As for my parents' current dog, she's a beautiful lab. Sweetest thing ever and great with my niece, which the first dog would have never been... She's chewed up razor blades, light globes, TWO hearing aids, a cordless phone, TV remote... And she's eight years old... Not sure if we train them or they train us - nothing gets left down in my parents' house!

She get refered to as the "pup" cause she is the youngest off all the dogs we socialize her with. Both her and my sherperd do the "tigr dance" when they hear our cars pull up to the drive way. It is a wonderful way to be greeted at the front door especially after a hard day at work. We try not to yell or raise our voices at them unless they are fighting each other (two staffys fighting they just lock their jaws and shake their heads), we have a firm command word (not "no" more a firm "ah" they hear no to often they may get de-sensitived to the word) Green.. I understand about dogs chewing everything, she will put anything in her mouth, found my mobile in the back yard many times and she chewed a metal stainer once, she once ate 600grams of raw almond once, cleaned her right out (the vet just laughed, she seems use to the phone call from our house) I watched my sherperd being born, and she has the most savage bark if she sences danger, even if she is doing it from behind me, If I am traveling on long distances visit to freinds in other states she comes with me in the car, people tend to leave you alone with a dog that big, and she is often over at my parents place if there is trouble in their area, nothing like a deep bark and growl to deter people I fought tooth and nail with my ex to make sure she stayed with me and away from his "dogs need to be hit to toughen then up and discipline" attitude I don't want to even image life without her, (if Ihave to) even the staffy pup is now part of my pack, both dogs stayed by my side when I was sick and gave me comfort I just have to remind myself when the pup does something wrong that I am the alpha in the pack and she is just doing what we let her get away with- in the long run the ownise is on me to remender her what is acceptable., I forget that sometimes

Ohhh, you have Staffy's LW? I have a very old one right now. She is 15, and unfortunately on her last legs. I suspect this will be her last summer - no I KNOW, this will be her last summer. She has a cancerous growth on her foreleg, it has been removed twice and I do not want to put her through the procedure a third time. She is also partially blind and very deaf. I am just waiting for her to show me it is time to go, then we will trot off to the vet. My dog was a chewer when we first got her but (she damaged a few things most memorable was my father's dentures), obviously, she does not do it now. She is the only dog in the family though so she is not having to pick her way through the pack. In fact sometimes I think she thinks she is the lowest on the totem pole, even after the cats. Other times I have really had to fight to reminder her I am the leader of the pack.

Thanks so much for posting that information, James! It's fascinating to see those color palates!