Having just re-watched BotP (and watching what I own of Gatchaman now) I've been reliving my favotire episodes (and favorite moments). I came to a massive realisation - most of my fave episodes and moments are that because of the Mark/Princess interaction. No - I'll amend that ALL of them are. (good lord - I'm more of an Eagle/Swan gal than I realised - and always have been). Sometimes you watch a show and over the years your favorite episode changes as you mature. Not with BotP - and I'm finding myself fond of certain Gatch episodes beacuse of my BotP favorites (though that is starting to change). So - have you found this that your fave eps are becuase of a certain interaction or character? And - don't know if you ever notice - Mark definitely knows who his competition is. If you notice, Princess never, ever gets sent off alone with Jason... *smirk* In fact, if she gets sent off with somebody other than Mark, it's Keyop (and Mark is usually somewhere close). And people say he's clueless or not "denying" himself! He's one smart Eagle!

I'm with you on that, Maddy! Just about all of my favorite eps have some type of Jun/ Ken interaction in them. I find myself fast-forwarding to the "good" parts, too! That's true about Princess/ Jun and Jason/ Joe...I only recall one time that they were alone together on a mission...and Ken didn't send them out together...they ran into each other! (Of course the Condor and Swan make up for it in Gatch 2) One of my fav eps of all time is episode 101- Heavy Cobra- it is so much fun to watch Ken and Jun together...and then to have Joe rescue them is a bonus! Although, Ken's pride had to have taken quite a hit when Joe came on the scene...

Oh yeah - even though I've never seen Gatch 2 - I've hearcd enough of the storylines and seen screen caps enough to be squeeing from all the Condor/Swan goodness there. Have you ever noticed as well that there is more Condor/Swan in the OAV's than Eagle/Swan?? (especially episode 3 - she's absolutely devastated when she finds Joe!). Then again - OAV Eagle is not as gorgeous as the original! Heavy Cobra is a favorite of mine as well (though I only know the BotP version). They are both working so well together in it, we know that they've changed into Galactor uniforms in the same space and he's just taking care of her so much! I think that the BotP version sufferes because we don't see Jason give Mark his gun - but I do fangirlsquee with Condor + sawnoff shotgun!! Come to reflect - 99% of my fave BotP episodes are in the last 10! Let's face it - who'se heart didn't break when Mark uttered the line "Fuel tanks empty. I'm gong down. Impact will ignite." I always felt a little let down that it took so little to talk him out of that. On the other hand - knowing how Condor's get - would YOU ignore Jason telling you to board the Phoenix?? I wonder - was Mark perhaps hoping that using Phoenix's more sensitaive instrumentation perhaps they had heard from her or had confirmation she wasn't in those fields below.

Mads... Great question. While I am a MP shipper all the way, and I do love the episodes that tend to highlight that a little, my favourites are basically those I remember from when I was a kid.. Long before the whole internet movement and the availability of DVDs and the such, my fav was always Fierce Flowers. As is the one where the research centre gets hit... They are the ones that immediately give me memories of watching as a kid, and therefore remain my favourites. When I got to see the whole series once it was released, it was pretty much like watching new episodes for me (although I watched all of them religiously as a kid -- I didn't remember the episodes, really)... I saw more MP deliciousness, but they don't exactly rank high on my favs because they aren't what I remember as a wee lass. So that said, I don't break down the episodes and analyze them like a true "gatcher" would to pick a fav based on the elements in that particular episode. To do that would really take out much of the magic for me. I prefer to look at each show like a naive little girl and relive that energy, rather than take it on as an adult and analyze each scene and pick upon every flaw and oops. I suppose that is why my fic work strays so far from "canon"... I write as I saw them as a kid...not how they might truly be depicted on screen. I guess that is why Gatchaman doesn't hold the same mistique for me that BotP does. Gatch is great, don't get me wrong, but it is just another cartoon to me.... BotP is the one I truly love... It's the one we all played in the school yard, and the one that takes me right back to being a carefree little monkey.. So, yeah... to get back on topic. My favs are the ones I remembered from when I was a wee tacker. They always will be, I suppose. SJ

Perhaps somebody can help me as well - what is the episode that the screen cap below comes from? More Eagle/Swan goodness, you'll notice. Damn - cant find it. But it looks like they are in a small plane of some sort - shot out windscreen and Ken is flying it from behind Jun??

Oh I think I know that one.... isn't it from the last BotP episode? Where MArk and Princess end up on Spectra chasing a tape, or something?

I know the one you're talking about...it's that same episode...Heavy Cobra (I can't recall the BOTP name for it). But I think that particular scene was cut out of BOTP. They sliced the heck out of that episode!

SJ - I think you and I are two of the very few who have BotP as their prime show. I enjoy Gatch, but it's still BotP that holds the place in my heart!! I thought it was from there - but must be cut from the BotP episode Also like you - my two top stores are Fierce Flowers and then the last 2 when Space Centre gets hit.

I'm rambling here - but waiting for software to finish installing on my machine here at work so can't do anything else. In the Cobra episode in Botp - you have to love the line when they realise they're on Spectra. Princess says (something like) "We'll never get home". She doesn't exactly look distressed when she says it. In fact, one can see her mind start to build a small house, with a white picket fence and many mini-eagles runing around....

Hi all! I BotP, that's Conway Tape Tap. James

That's the one!! I wonder why they cut that scene out??

James - perhaps you can answer this question as well. Was there any set plan that Sandy Frank used for the episodes he translated? Or was it just somewhat random? I know that some of them were just too violent for them to be able to get through - but others are rather innocous - in fact seem less violent than some that did get through (and Zarked into insensibility)

Well I'm a 'shipper as much as the next girl, but I truly am a Swan fan, so my favorite episode is all about the Swan: Secret of the Birdstyles. I remember it as Museum of Mystery as well, and loving it in BOTP version. On the other hand, I have found myself loving the humor in Gatch that was never really allowed to shine through in BOTP (BOTP had a different brand of humor). So in Gatch I love the Trachodon ep and the Abominable Snowman ep and the Dave the Hippie ep for that reason. And then there are just the super cool 'hang onto you seat in excitement' episodes, like Heavy Cobra and Mortal Blow! Gatchaman Fire. I haven't seen enough of Gatch F to make any judgments, but in Gatch II the North Wall ep is wonderful because of the Joe/Jun interaction, and I also enjoy the Crisis at G-Town ep because of the way it demonstrates Jun's strengths, and how well the Team knows her. Tidal Wave and Burn, Condor! are also fantastic 'edge of your seat' episodes.

Hi all! There was no real plan for which episodes would be used and which ones wouldn't. Jameson Brewer and Co. pretty much dealt with the episodes in the random and piecemeal manner in which the film prints were delivered to them. They didn't know what the content of a particular episode was until they were in the process of working on it, and as far as I know, no episodes were omitted because of their content. The 20 episodes that were skipped were apparently skipped because they arrived after the production had wrapped. Mr. Brewer talking a little about this when he was at the 1999 GatchaCon, when he was asked, "When you started working on the show, did you have any idea how many episodes it was going to run?" He responded: "No, because at that time, nobody knew how many episodes there were. I was told originally, I think, that there would be 75. Then we found out later that there were more of them. Somebody would call and say, 'Oh, we've got 26 more films over here.' They just kept adding and adding to them. I never knew how many there were until it was over. In fact, I heard when we were done, that there were more over there. But we were never able to get them." James

My favourites -no surprise- are the episodes that prominently feature the Condor. In fact, the two BOTP episodes that, many years later, had stayed in my memory fairly clearly were "Galaxy Girls" (esp. the part at the beginning when Jason gets driven off the side of a bridge) and "Race with Disaster." Jason was always my favourite. I was very happy, when upon discovering Gatchaman, to get episodes 78, 81 and 102-105, and a big, tragic story arc for the Condor!

Originally posted by lborgia88 My favourites -no surprise- are the episodes that prominently feature the Condor. In fact, the two BOTP episodes that, many years later, had stayed in my memory fairly clearly were "Galaxy Girls" (esp. the part at the beginning when Jason gets driven off the side of a bridge) and "Race with Disaster." Jason was always my favourite. I was very happy, when upon discovering Gatchaman, to get episodes 78, 81 and 102-105, and a big, tragic story arc for the Condor!

LB, you beat me two it. Those were the episodes that I was thinking of. Though, I must say that watching eps 104 and 105 are hard. But, the GoS equivilant of the Galaxy Girls is the only episode of that incarnation that I remember, as I couldn't remember the end of it. Needless to say I love it in Gatchaman. Though The Great Underground Monster Battle is fun to watch just because you see Jun jumping into Joe's arms which is cut from BotP.

Just got finished up to Gatchaman Vol.7 espisode 42 today.... Only 11 more volumes and 63 episodes to go They are ALL works of art As long as the episode has some trace of character delvelopement or foreshadow of future events, I'm happy. I've noticed a couple of episodes where it was totally like, "Oh, a gaint mecha is destroying the city. Call Gatchaman." Find a way to destroy the mecha. End of episode, with no type of internal story developement at all. Which is still cool and all but.... I have noticed that so far I've seen 2 seperate 2-part episodes. I remember hating the 2-part episodes as a kid. Just hated them. Maybe it was because you had to wait to find out the 'exciting conclusion'.... plus I don't always think back in the 80's they always ran the episodes in order so it might have been weeks before you got to see the other half of the story. But now the 2 seperate 2-part episodes I've seen, "The Grand Gezora Operation" and "The People-Eating Flowers" are pretty darn good. And I get to watch them in the order they were intended

And another one falls for Jigokillers!!! (that's the Flower episode, Wade). It's pretty much a favorite of most people.

I don't recall a favorite episode of BotP. A moment I love is in the 'Secret of the Birdstyles' episode. You know which one I mean: Jun's gone out on her own to play bait for Galactor, and two guys force her into an alley. We hear lots of smacking, then a disgusted Jun walks out saying, "Darn, just a couple of street thugs."

Originally posted by UnpublishedWriter I don't recall a favorite episode of BotP. A moment I love is in the 'Secret of the Birdstyles' episode. You know which one I mean: Jun's gone out on her own to play bait for Galactor, and two guys force her into an alley. We hear lots of smacking, then a disgusted Jun walks out saying, "Darn, just a couple of street thugs."

Yep - love that! Also love the scene in, oh, bugger, you know I can never remember the darn titles.., the ep that the GodPhoenix gets blown up and they're all in the Snack just hanging around and some fools are talking about how the KNT aren't doing anything but sitting on their butts while Galactor is blowing stuff up... Love that scene *sigh*.

As everybody might already know, my favorite series is definitely Gatch F, together with all episodes in the whole three series which include Ken/Jun's relationship and Ken's doings! I might be also influenced by the fact that this was the series I've watched over and over again during my childhood. Not that I dislike Gatchaman or Gatch II ... far from it! ... I also appreciate a lot the inclusion of an ingenious variety of mechas! I also am learning a lot about BOTP! I only find that the plot of Gatch F is based on a more serious tone other than funny villains, with a heck of a villain for its own! And the storylines of the episodes are more realistic! Although the end part was heartbreaking, that's my favorite one! I don't know if I could ever be understood! I like humor but I'm more of a drama person ... and in Gatch F there's loads of it, especially concerning Ken/Jun and Ken! On the other hand, I like to see the story as a whole! Every episode in every series or universe has its own interesting parts and attractions! I try to appreciate all of them!

Gatchamarie- I have some Gatch F questions...I was watching episode 46 last night (in Japanese) and I have no idea what Jun and Ken are saying to each other. It looks like Jun is going to commit suicide in this electric wheel mecha...and Joe pushes her aside with his mecha and takes the Galactor mecha down. Joe is ok at the end...and the team rushes forward to him. Then...it looks like Joe is telling Ken what Jun did...Ken smiles at Jun and then Joe walks off and pushes the rest of the team away with him. That's the same ep where Jun is hovering over Ken as he is dying. Also, there's a moment where Ken is working on the Gatchaspartan, and Jun walks in... Also, in that ep...it's cute that Joe winks at Jun.

I'll try to find some time to watch that episode again, Springie, so as not to give you the wrong explanation! But, yes, that's the episode when Ken was really desperate and ill! Jun left his bedside to see what Kamo had to tell them and Ken overheard everything hiding behind the door. When the team was informed that Ken was not found in bed, they found him working on the Gatchaspartan, adamant to fight the last battle. Jun wanted to go near him and Joe thought that she was going to put Ken off from doing so. In fact, Jun just wanted to help Ken continue with his endeavour, that's why Joe gave her a wink! And Ken smiled that gorgeous thank you smile at her!

Oh yeah - that Eagle smile!!! Opens the big blue eyes, smiles tht smile and we all just dive right in!!

It also looked to me like the team was refusing to combine and let Ken use his sword! Thanks for the explanation, Marie! I'm looking forward to finding out what was said at the end...and if Jun was going to take her own life for the team!

You're right, Maddy! Springie ... I've just took a glimpse at episode 46 of Gatch F as promised. Basically it's just like I've said earlier, with the exception that Joe gave Jun a wink when they, in fact, found Ken as if he wanted to say "Found him!". I'll try to give you a short summary: The episode begins with disasters all over the world where the particles of the first satellite of antimatter hit the Earth. After previously destroying this first satellite in space with the hypershoot, Ken's condition had worsened by far and he had been taken to the ISO Space Center's infirmary. Ken's physician and Kamo met Joe, Ryu and Jinpei outside his room to tell them in what condition he was and that if the Eagle used the hypershoot once more, he would have surely died. In fact, the physician also emphasized on the fact that if Ken were a normal person he would have been dead already. Jinpei could not believe his ears and he seemed not to accept the fact that the health condition of his big bro was so grave! Joe stopped Jinpei from entering Ken's room saying that the Eagle needed to rest. Only Jun was inside with him. She kept talking to an unconscious Ken telling him that he had always won battles and that now he had to win this battle that was going on inside of him. Memories of the Eagle saving and protecting her kept coming to her mind with the famous phrase that Ken used to tell her and the others, "If we'll die, we'll die together!". Her thoughts ended with that image of her and Ken running away in birdstyle, hand in hand. At that same time, she took Ken's hand in hers and rested her head on him, sobbing. In the meantime, Ken was having a rather troubled dream. He was seeing himself struggling against evil forces and almost succombing to them. He then heard Hakase's voice telling him to keep on fighting. Hakase told him that he couldn't help him in any way and that his health, that is Ken's, was deteriorating quickly. Ken asked him, or better, stated that he was dying. Then RI joined in and continued to encourage his son to fight. Kamo called Jun on her bracelet and requested her presence with the others'. She hesitated at first, telling Kamo that she wanted to stay with Ken, but the Chief Engineer insisted. Jun obeyed and left the room, but Ken was awakened by what was going on without her having noticed. Kamo lectured the team that another satellite of antimatter was going to hit the Earth in 30 hours time. This second one was even bigger than the first, surrounded by seven other smaller satellites that were computerized to conduct its trail. Upon viewing it on the monitors, Jun pointed out that this must have been the "Apple and the Seven Dwarfs" that Dr. Nambu had mentioned before he died. Kamo told them that it was an impossible task to destroy the satellite and its surrounding components at the same time. A representative of the UN joined them and showed his opinion that the Earth must bow in front of Galactor's supremacy in order to be saved. The team didn't agree absolutely with this statement, saying that even if the Earth did so, Sosai Z would surely continue with his plan of obliterating it. Ken was hearing all that was being said behind the door, unnoticed. After some time into the discussion, an operator told Kamo that they were informed that Ken had left his room and that he was nowhere to be found. The team immediately left in search of the Eagle after Kamo told them that Ken was not fit enough to be up and about yet. The UN representative (his name is "Mr. Peace" in the Italian translation!) asked Kamo regarding Ken's condition and the Chief Engineer responded by telling him that the Eagle wants to fight and save the Earth at his own health's detriment. The rest of the team found Ken working on the Gatchaspartan so as he could be able to use the hypershoot once more. Joe winked at Jun when he was the first to see the Eagle. They all watched Ken as he continued with his repairs with fatigue, letting things fall from his hands when he was in pain. Jun was the first to want to go near Ken. At first, Joe stopped her thinking that she was going to stop Ken from doing what he was in the procedure of doing. But the Swan assured the Condor that she only wanted to help Ken ... and so Joe let her go, thinking aloud that he wasn't going to let Ken use the hypershoot once more. When Jun reached Ken, no words were uttered. She just showed him that she was there and smiled. Ken smiled back at her, his face beaming. When he was ready with the repairs, Ken informed Kamo that the SNT were going to destroy the seven satellites around the "Apple" with missiles. Kamo told Ken that he wasn't healthy enough to go on such a mission but the Eagle answered that even if he were to stay in bed, his condition would not have gotten better, so it was better if he did something with the time that he had left. Jun acknowledged Ken's statement with a concerned look. The Chief Engineer then told the Eagle that they only had three missiles available and that they did not have enough time to wait for the UN to provide them with the others. The Eagle assured him that the SNT would do good with those only three they had. After having said this, the team was informed that they were being attacked by a mecha. Egobossler did not know who had ordered this mecha to attack, but then he soon realized that it was Sosai Z's idea without firsting consulting him. As the team headed towards the mecha, they realized that it was formed by two huge, rotating wheels that were connected by a high voltage, electric current, and that the only way to destroy it was to cut and interrupt that current. Ken ordered the team to unite and form the Gatchaspartan so as he could take care of the mecha. But the others disobeyed, knowing that he intended to use the hypershoot. With bewilderment, the Eagle asked them what was going on and Jun responded that she was going to take care of the situation herself. Her vehicle left the formation to head right into the electric current but Joe flew after her and superceded her. He told the Swan that she would not have been able to make it and that he had more chances with his G2. Having said this, the Condor threw his vehicle into the current and was electrocuted. With his act, Joe managed to provoke a disequilibrium between the wheels, and after his G2 was literally spit off the current, the mecha exploded. The others landed their vehicles near the G2, which had crashed to the ground. They jumped out and ran to see what had happened to Joe. The Condor's head was seen coming out of his seat. He was okay! Joe grinned saying that he was a bionicle and that that would not have killed him! After seeing that Joe was alright, Ken showed his disapprovement with the others for having disobeyed his orders. He told them that he was still their Commander, even in his condition, and that he was not happy to let them risk their lives instead of his. Joe was a little amused by Ken's reaction and without any words he motioned Ryu and Jinpei to follow him and let Ken alone. It was hard for the others to behave like that in front of Ken, knowing what kind of turmoil was eating him from within. This notwithstanding, they joined the Condor and left Ken staring at them as they went, with Jun standing behind him. Jun's eyes were filled with compassion as she stayed, speechless, with her beloved (I had to call him like that!). The episode ended with the frustration of Egobossler who became aware that he had been manipulated by Sosai Z for all that time and that Sosai Z was surely not going to keep his promise of letting him (Egobossler) rule the Earth. The real intention of Sosai Z was to destroy his planet. P.S. Sorry for my spelling and grammatical mistakes ... I'm in a bit of a hurry!

Wow - that really sounds like an incredible episode! I so wish that Gatch II & F had been translated!

Thanks for a great recap Marie!

WOW!! Thanks sooo much, Marie! That was awesome!! You really helped me to understand what was going on in the episode!! *swoon*

For me it is ... those episodes are! I don't know how much tissues I need at hand every time I watch them!

That's a great recap, Marie! Would you like to take over the episode discussions once the original series is finished?

Originally posted by amethyst Thanks for a great recap Marie!

If'n you want to browse screenshots from the episode... check here Have fun!

Thanks Reboekah! I have your site bookmarked and often refer to it when discussions of II of F come up! Newbies, this is a great way to see images form II or F if you are like me and haven't seen the actual shows. Though I think Veoh has some episodes and there's a link to the Korean Pandora site on another thread.

Originally posted by amethyst Thanks Reboekah! I have your site bookmarked and often refer to it when discussions of II of F come up! Newbies, this is a great way to see images form II or F if you are like me and haven't seen the actual shows. Though I think Veoh has some episodes and there's a link to the Korean Pandora site on another thread.

I know I've consulted Reboekah's screencaps a lot! There are Gatch II and Fighter eps on youtube too (no English though). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4wsfML1mYU

Originally posted by Transmute Jun That's a great recap, Marie! Would you like to take over the episode discussions once the original series is finished?

Yes, your recap here is great, Gatchamarie -feel free to do more!

Wonderful work, Marie!

Originally posted by lborgia88

Originally posted by Transmute Jun That's a great recap, Marie! Would you like to take over the episode discussions once the original series is finished?

Yes, your recap here is great, Gatchamarie -feel free to do more!

Thanks a lot! Sorry for the late response but I had loads to do and yesterday we had a major electricity power cut throughout the whole island and I couldn't join in with you, apart from being thrown back like hours to do certain work and chores! TJ and LB, I've already thought about this prospect and I would be very happy to do so! I only have a certain amount of episodes of Gatch F available though, and I do not have any of Gatch II (I only remember Gatch II as far as my memory takes me back and with the help of Reboekah's screencaps!). But if it's okay for all of you to have random episode recaps of Gatch F when the time comes, then, as I said, I would be more than happy to do so! Another thing ... I cannot compare my work with that of yours, TJ and LB! ... especially regarding written English, expressions and terms. Apart from my way to write English, there's also the fact that many expressions that have to be translated from the Italian language to English are difficult to match those to which many of you are used. So, when the time comes, please bear with me! And I may also have to ask permission from Reboekah to use some of her screencaps if possible! Just one last thing (sorry for my being annoying!) ... as some times I can be quite tied up with my work, having a lot of due dates, I might not be able to provide you with recaps in between exact period of times! Do you think that's okay for you?

Marie, we would be happy with ANY Gatch F recaps! What you wrote above was just perfect, and more than most of us would ever normally have available to us when we look at a Gatch F episode on Youtube. Anything you can offer will be gladly accepted!!!!

WOW! That would be fabulous, Marie! I'm very curious about the Swan/ Eagle moments in Gatch F!

Oh yeah - especially since Gatch II seemed to be all about Swan/Condor!

Gatch II was there to prepare the terrain for the Swan/Eagle enforcement in their relationship! ... that's what I like to think! The Swan had ample time to think about her true sentiments! Not that the Condor hadn't been a good option, but the Eagle was always her Eagle for Jun!

Actually, I think it was more fan service. By the end of the Gatchaman series, Tatsunoko had realized that Joe was their most popular character, and that's why many of the later episodes began focusing on him. When they were launching Gatchaman II, they wanted to capitalize on that and made the show more Joe-centric, which apparently included some swoony scenes with the Swan. (And now James will step in and correct me, because I'm sure I've gotten something wrong in that statement. James! ) Also, I recall James saying that originally they had planned for Jun to discover Joe's secret (that he was a cyborg) and reveal it to the others. That got dropped, and instead we got Mrs. Mary Sue, Dr. Pandora. Blaaaaah... [insert noise here]

Your statement makes a lot of sense, TJ, and, in fact, I've read something similar some long time ago, where I can't recall! And you surely have something against "Miss Perfect"! ... mind if I join your clan anti-Dr. Pandora?! (even though I sincerely didn't see her that bad, at least not all of the time!)

Hi all!

By the end of the Gatchaman series, Tatsunoko had realized that Joe was their most popular character, and that's why many of the later episodes began focusing on him.

This is a popular fan myth that has never had any solid support. The decision to have Joe dying came from Hisayuki Toriumi, not a nebulous "Tatsunoko," and was apparently done to give the series a tearful farewell scene to help build up the drama of the last episode, not because Joe was the "most popular character."

When they were launching Gatchaman II, they wanted to capitalize on that and made the show more Joe-centric, which apparently included some swoony scenes with the Swan.

This is another fan myth. While the Planning for Gatchaman II does certainly focus a lot on Joe, there wasn't anything that stated that they wished to make Joe the main focal point of the series. My impression is that it came about organically as the story developed, not as a pre-planned situation. You will also notice that, once they started moving away from the intention to make the series only 26 episodes long, they quickly wrapped up and tossed aside the "Joe the Secret Cyborg" elements from the Planning and we start seeing more episodes focusing on Ken.

Also, I recall James saying that originally they had planned for Jun to discover Joe's secret (that he was a cyborg) and reveal it to the others.

No, what I said was that Jun was going to be the first to discover that Joe was a cyborg, and that eventually Dr. Raphael would reveal Joe's secret to the other characters. James

Originally posted by gatchamarie But if it's okay for all of you to have random episode recaps of Gatch F when the time comes, then, as I said, I would be more than happy to do so!

That sounds marvelous to me. Your recap for Gatch F ep.46 explains it so well, and I'd love to read your descriptions of other Gatch F episodes -I, comparatively, know so little about them!

Originally posted by Transmute Jun made the show more Joe-centric, which apparently included some swoony scenes with the Swan.

I certainly took advantage of the scenes in episodes 16 and 29 (the North Wall ep) when writing Joe/Jun. If one is trying to stay close to canon, there's almost nothing Joe/Jun in the first series to work with!

Originally posted by tatsunokofan No, what I said was that Jun was going to be the first to discover that Joe was a cyborg, and that eventually Dr. Raphael would reveal Joe's secret to the other characters.

I've often wondered if episode 16 was meant to be the beginning of Jun figuring out that Joe was a cyborg -she saw enough (him ripping into a tank with his bare hands) to make it seem like she'd be realizing that something was definitely different about him.

Hi all!

I've often wondered if episode 16 was meant to be the beginning of Jun figuring out that Joe was a cyborg -she saw enough (him ripping into a tank with his bare hands) to make it seem like she'd be realizing that something was definitely different about him.

I've assumed that as well. James

Originally posted by lborgia88

Originally posted by gatchamarie But if it's okay for all of you to have random episode recaps of Gatch F when the time comes, then, as I said, I would be more than happy to do so!

That sounds marvelous to me. Your recap for Gatch F ep.46 explains it so well, and I'd love to read your descriptions of other Gatch F episodes -I, comparatively, know so little about them!

Thanks, LB! I will try to do my humble best!

Thanks for the clarifications, James! Gatch II is a far away memory!

Originally posted by gatchamarie Your statement makes a lot of sense, TJ, and, in fact, I've read something similar some long time ago, where I can't recall! And you surely have something against "Miss Perfect"! ... mind if I join your clan anti-Dr. Pandora?! (even though I sincerely didn't see her that bad, at least not all of the time!)

Oh no, she's not *that* bad. After all, I grew up being subjected to the tortures of 7-Zark-7, so next to that Dr. Pandora is quite refreshing!

Thank you for clarifying, James!

Originally posted by Transmute Jun

Originally posted by gatchamarie Your statement makes a lot of sense, TJ, and, in fact, I've read something similar some long time ago, where I can't recall! And you surely have something against "Miss Perfect"! ... mind if I join your clan anti-Dr. Pandora?! (even though I sincerely didn't see her that bad, at least not all of the time!)

Oh no, she's not *that* bad. After all, I grew up being subjected to the tortures of 7-Zark-7, so next to that Dr. Pandora is quite refreshing!