1.To use the original GATCHAMAN series as a template.Keeping the original names and all the storyline in it as intact as possible. (already confirmed) 2.The theme put into the movie.Remixed or otherwise. 3.A sleek God Phoenix.Like a souped up SR-21 Blackbird but on crack!!!!(I know you want it to look like the original but the original doesn't look like it'll hit past mach 3 while the God Phoenix could go past mach 6. 4.Keep Berge Katse and make him less annoying.His laugh just makes me cringe. 5.Not really part of the movie but restore and redo some of the original toylines as a Masterpiece Collection like Takara and Chogokin.

A Blackbird SR-71 .... Interesting. I have to admit that for sheer looks alone it is a great idea. However, the actual problems associated with that particular aircraft would make it somewhat ineffective. I can't see them being patient enough to take off and then wait for a mid-air refuelling... (It can't take off with a full tank) But that jet is actually capable of hitting some high speeds - It's perfect cruising airspeed (for its design) was about Mach 3.6 ... It is a beautiful bird, though ... I'm a stealth and bomber girl... I love the B1 Lancer, and think she's a perfect shape for a Phoenix. That little lady can only pull Mach 2, though. I remember seeing her at an air show and commenting to Flash (hubby) that it kind of looked like a swimming penguin from underneath... LOL SJ

Honestly, I'm just happy if they keep the look and flavor of the original series. Oh yeah, and not violate any of the MAJOR canon (say, having Nambu be their actual father or some such). Apart from that, I'd like it to have a real plot, and have the characters show some depth, so that they're people you care about (or in the case of Katse, love to hate). I don't want to see this movie be flat and boring, and go down the tubes. I want it to grab the public consciousness with a GOOD story and a GOOD look and hey, lots of action never hurts. As an aside, there was a promo/idea pic released a year or so ago that showed Joe smoking. Pretty much everybody (except one person I can think of) was not in favor of such a thing. Other than that, I think the major feeling is 'not like the OAVs'. See GOOD story and GOOD look above.

Originally posted by Transmute Jun Oh yeah, and not violate any of the MAJOR canon (say, having Nambu be their actual father or some such).

I've sometimes feared they might try to turn Dr. Nambu into a woman, claiming there aren't enough female characters! (Actually, in the new Battlestar Galactica, I liked Starbuck being changed to a woman -but then, I had no emotional attachment to the old version). I'm mostly concerned with having the original characters resemble their original selves in appearance (this doesn't really include clothes and uniforms so much though) and behaviour. I too am really hoping for a good story that is close to the spirit of the original series but that can also draw in people who've never seen any version of Gatch (and doesn't make any big deviations from canon!)

IWY TJ- No changes to the MAJOR canon parts because it will distort the story to much. I don't mind an update in the bridstyles. The ones I saw recently looked good. But please given their faces character, (At keast catch the essence of them in colouring and basic character) not bland pretty boy especially for the Condor! And Jun, we she's beautiful leave her that way. Action is great if it fits into the plot well, if its just ALL action and no plot...boring...

I wish the movie would: 1. Not make Jun an anatomically incorrect barbie doll with breasts the size of Nevada. 2. Give a little bit more in the romance department - not a lot, but just enough. 3. Have great action scenes that support a great story. 4. Not try to be all things to all people - pick an age group to focus on and just stay there. 5. Update the character's looks without taking away their identities.

I was hoping that they try not to alienate the older fans from the newer and younger ones.

I just hope they actually finish it, to be honest.... I was disappointed with the OVA (or is it OAV?) release. Amination was nice and sharp, but I didn't recognize any of them in looks or in personality... I just pray they don't screw it up like that. Just, please, don't make my Swannie a big-titted pouty thing like Tortosa did -- gawd he did an awful job with her... Not one part of Tortosa's Swan was nice. SJ

good voice acting...... make the voices sound age appropriate and not totally way off base.... and i agree with pretty much every other statement above

A good aerial fight scene with Blackbirds

Originally posted by trideegurl2 good voice acting...... make the voices sound age appropriate and not totally way off base....

Oh I so totally agree with this! One of the things I hate most about G-Force (aside from the names and the backbeat) was the horrible voice acting.

You know when i went to see Narnia I saw more older people in there watching it than kids. What does that have to say about a fan base... And the lets try and get some new ones... I saw mothers with their kids going to see it...its the older fans that bring in the new.

One of the things they mentioned early on was that this was going to show how the team began. I am hoping they stick with the original ideas from the series and somehow make them all work in the movie. I noticed that Joe was being taken into the ISO in handcuffs in one of the pics, while the rest of the team walked separately, so I am wondering if they plan on introducing Joe to the team after it has already formed. ...And this 'shipper is hoping for a few little hints at a budding romance...puppy love, at least?

Originally posted by Springie I noticed that Joe was being taken into the ISO in handcuffs in one of the pics, while the rest of the team walked separately, so I am wondering if they plan on introducing Joe to the team after it has already formed. ...And this 'shipper is hoping for a few little hints at a budding romance...puppy love, at least?

With the short teaser that IMAGI showed at Anime Expo and Comic Con I think Joe is a criminal that is being added just as the team is forming. With that clip IMAGI showed it looked like he was dealing with weapons sales and probably was later caught. I'm not saying this is going to be in the movie I'm just speculating based on what I've seen. I would also like to see romance in the movie too but like a love triangle with Jun, Ken and Joe.

Oh yeah, toss Joe in there, too...nothing wrong with a good love triangle...I'd be happy!

Would you buy a gun from the Baby face we have seen? Other than a pop gun? (Yes, I know, I bought a car off that guy in the number `2` T shirt...)

1. I hope that creators don`t change original character`s appearance. 2. After nearly forty years that passed after Gatchaman first series, Ken and Jun finally MUST kiss, LOL.

I just hope they wouldn't do anything that can bite them back in the ass later like the things they did to the Dragon Ball film.

Only Yul, if this is pre-series Gatchaman then I can not imagine Ken and Jun finally kissing, unless it is by "mistake."

Originally posted by yul 1. I hope that creators don`t change original character`s appearance. 2. After nearly forty years that passed after Gatchaman first series, Ken and Jun finally MUST kiss, LOL.

It will be one of those BIG movie moments....everyone waits with baited breath...

*SWOON*

They really should be coming here, just to make sure they get it right. But, removing tongue from cheek and putting cynical hat on, why try and please us? They know peeps like us will see it what ever so they will try and rope in a different audience. This post was bought to you by bitter experience and the words, Duran Duran and Red carpet massacre.

That is my feeling as well Veritas, why focus on the group you KNOW will watch - go for the new, younger generation. The people who will know nothing about the MAJOR canon information, so the writers can make things as they like.

Originally posted by clouddancer Only Yul, if this is pre-series Gatchaman then I can not imagine Ken and Jun finally kissing, unless it is by "mistake."

My theory: K&J had been in love and then they broke off because of duties)) Or, I hope, creators may just ignore this «mistaken» fact

Originally posted by veritas This post was bought to you by bitter experience and the words, Duran Duran and Red carpet massacre.

Bwaaa haaa haaaaa!!!!!! I sooo agree! Astronaut was awesome, but that last album...

Sigh, any serious intra-team romance in the new film, beyond some flirtation or kissing, would certainly be a deviation from canon (if not from fanfics!) but it's one that I doubt I would mind seeing!

As some canon deviations are to be expected, I think the least they can do is give us a little lovin' - If they put that in, I could probably forgive other things that I am bound to like less.

For me it wouldnt have to be an open and shut case eg; it wouldnt have to be a full on snog. I would just like little hints or scenes that when you saw them, you just knew.

IKWYM Veritas, even a subtle understanding would be better than him being a blind clueless dope and her a love struck fool.... Other than that I would like to see a balance in the action scenes. I love action movies but some end up boring me to tears half way though because there is no pause in it...you need a story line and action to compliment it not there for eye candy and thats it.

Originally posted by Ebonyswanne IKWYM Veritas, even a subtle understanding would be better than him being a blind clueless dope and her a love struck fool....

Kind of like what Battle of the Planets did, right? It's there, you know it's there, they know it's there, but .... it isn't so in your face. Honestly ... the shipper in me says "Go the SNOG!!" I'm all over that like flies on shit...

Originally posted by veritas For me it wouldnt have to be an open and shut case eg; it wouldnt have to be a full on snog. I would just like little hints or scenes that when you saw them, you just knew.

Cloud pictures the preteen hints Jun ends her gymnastic sequence with a flourish and then looks around to see if he was watching. She gives a girlish giggle and then rushes over to Joe's side and whispers to him, "Did he notice? Was he watching? Go, ask him if he was watching?" Joe rolls his eyes and takes a round about route to get over to Ken. "She wants to know if you saw what she did."

Well pretty much what everyone said. I too, wish they don't pull a '94 and try redoing everyone from scratch. I DO wish we could see an epic orchestra score. Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNb1RNkjIBg But whatcha wanna bet there's going to be a bunch of fast-paced Techno, you know really fitting of that "Teen Action" vibe?

Originally posted by Cain Highwind Well pretty much what everyone said. I too, wish they don't pull a '94 and try redoing everyone from scratch. I DO wish we could see an epic orchestra score. Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNb1RNkjIBg But whatcha wanna bet there's going to be a bunch of fast-paced Techno, you know really fitting of that "Teen Action" vibe?

I would LOVE for the movie to have an orchestra score but it will probably be some rapper or boy band doing it.

Originally posted by clouddancer

Originally posted by veritas For me it wouldnt have to be an open and shut case eg; it wouldnt have to be a full on snog. I would just like little hints or scenes that when you saw them, you just knew.

Cloud pictures the preteen hints Jun ends her gymnastic sequence with a flourish and then looks around to see if he was watching. She gives a girlish giggle and then rushes over to Joe's side and whispers to him, "Did he notice? Was he watching? Go, ask him if he was watching?" Joe rolls his eyes and takes a round about route to get over to Ken. "She wants to know if you saw what she did."

Aw, that is what it's like when you're that young, isn't it? The coy, nervous and round-about ways of showing interest... It is so Joe to be just blunt and matter-of-fact, though! What do you envision Ken saying in response, CD?

LOL I guess it helps to work around grade 6-8 students - even though I teach grade 1. I see all this going on daily, on the playground and in the halls. It is quite funny to watch and the kids do not even think WE (teachers) know what is happening. It is funny to watch the pairings join fall apart and new pairings start. It is funny, I actually imagine Ken pinging Jun's communicator only to remain silent - listen to her voice, but not know how to respond. The other possibility is for him to send her email messages (or PM's) asking if she liked him and then her shutting down the computer and not giving a response. (all things I see happening with the students only they use their cell phones and emails instead of communicators)

Originally posted by clouddancer

Originally posted by veritas For me it wouldnt have to be an open and shut case eg; it wouldnt have to be a full on snog. I would just like little hints or scenes that when you saw them, you just knew.

Cloud pictures the preteen hints Jun ends her gymnastic sequence with a flourish and then looks around to see if he was watching. She gives a girlish giggle and then rushes over to Joe's side and whispers to him, "Did he notice? Was he watching? Go, ask him if he was watching?" Joe rolls his eyes and takes a round about route to get over to Ken. "She wants to know if you saw what she did."

Bwahahaha...that's so cute, CD!!

Originally posted by clouddancer LOL I guess it helps to work around grade 6-8 students - even though I teach grade 1. I see all this going on daily, on the playground and in the halls. It is quite funny to watch and the kids do not even think WE (teachers) know what is happening. It is funny to watch the pairings join fall apart and new pairings start. It is funny, I actually imagine Ken pinging Jun's communicator only to remain silent - listen to her voice, but not know how to respond. The other possibility is for him to send her email messages (or PM's) asking if she liked him and then her shutting down the computer and not giving a response. (all things I see happening with the students only they use their cell phones and emails instead of communicators)

Yes, I could see Ken being attracted to her, but also shy and conscientious. It is funny how their communicator bracelets, which seemed so super-high-tech in the 70s, actually presaged cellphones in a lot of ways (except for the transmutation, course). My 13 year old nephew seems to spend a lot of time sending and receiving text messages, and no doubt a good many of them are to and from girls...

Thats all we want, pree teen romance. good taste eh?

Originally posted by Springie

Originally posted by clouddancer

Originally posted by veritas For me it wouldnt have to be an open and shut case eg; it wouldnt have to be a full on snog. I would just like little hints or scenes that when you saw them, you just knew.

Cloud pictures the preteen hints Jun ends her gymnastic sequence with a flourish and then looks around to see if he was watching. She gives a girlish giggle and then rushes over to Joe's side and whispers to him, "Did he notice? Was he watching? Go, ask him if he was watching?" Joe rolls his eyes and takes a round about route to get over to Ken. "She wants to know if you saw what she did."

Bwahahaha...that's so cute, CD!!

Thank you Springie, That flash came to me while sitting in my classroom after watching a classroom of 12 year olds "eat" lunch. I guess now I can not claim I never get "flashes" of stories into my head. Just don't take it that it means I will be joining in any IF's yet .... I suspect my brain will still move too slowly to come up with something for one of those.

The last thing we need is crap scraped off from that stupid House Bunnies movie.*shudders*

House Bunnies?

No idea on what House Bunnies movie is. Just hoping that this time next year, we can all be waiting for the release of the Gatch movie. Subtle hints of love, some angst and their overall looks intact... those are my wishes for the movie. The rest I can forgive/live through... if these stay in the movie. Oh, and not all action.... must have story line behind it too.

What would be some of the things that we DON'T want int the movie?

One thing I wouldn't want to see is them making the film like the team has superpowers like the X-Men movies. They're just highly trained and good at what they do.

I agree. I remember, way back when Kevin Munroe was still on as director, they were saying that they would have special "powers" or something like that, which made me nervous.

Does powered exoskeletons count? Cause these guys use the suits to let them do stuff.

Oh, I can accept that their suits give them abilities, such as resistance to bullets or the ability to leap high, or glide in the air, but I want the team's fiighting skills and weapons abilities to be from their own training and talent, not because they're "super-human".

I agree with all the attributes already posted for the movie. Even the Ken/Jun hookup or love triangle. But that one only to a certain degree. I still like the fact that Ken and Jun never made an actual romantic connection and that just the overtones were there (ok, there in a huge way, but still...). Hey, just remember that I've always maintained that I'm not a 'shipper and that I just like the innuendo of it!!!!!! What I don't want to see in the movie is the horrible, flat, non-descript animation techniques used in the OAV's... If I have to watch another Solid Gold Nambu, Boy Band Ken, or Over-inflated Barbie Doll Jun.... Blech!! I would also hate to see them deviate too much from the original storyline and character development. I like the fact that the movie will be a "prequel", so I'd like all the characters to have their major personality flaws/attributes be at least starting to develop. Still not sure how they're "prequeling" this, since the team are only teenagers in the series, and the concept art we've seen seems to have them as teenagers... But either way, keep the individual character's personalities intact or in development of what they end up being. I think I've echoed pretty much what everyone else said so for the rest I think I'll just say, "yeah! And everything else everyone else said!!"

Hi all! I think something that most of you have been overlooking is the not-so-minor detail that Imagi has never said that their movie (Should it ever actually be produced) will be a prequel to the TV series. They've said that it will be essentially an origin story, but they've never said that it will be an origin that will lead into the events of the TV series. It's more likely that they are starting at the beginning because they realize that most of their audience will be unfamiliar with the TV series, so starting at the beginning makes sense. I would not expect them to give any concern as to whether or not the beginning they come up with meshes in any way with the TV series. It might seem harsh, but you're probably better off expecting this to be a complete break from the TV series and in a Gatchaman world all of its own. You'll likely be a lot less disappointed if you do. James

True Tats, in mind I'm trying not to speculate to much of what it will eventually become.

I hope that the movie won't have crappy voice acting!!!!!

[FONT=comic sans ms] I want to see a lot of figthing scenes, weapons, cool high tech mechas & a ruthless blood thirsty gory Galactor organization ...cool [IMG]http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9071/galmark5nv8.gif[/IMG] [/FONT]

Originally posted by Xephon0930 What would be some of the things that we DON'T want int the movie?

I'm wondering...would it be Gatchaman without some politically incorrect scenes in there...(Not saying Ken has to do his usual thing and punch girls.)

A ragaholic Joe that is difficult to begin in the movie.The last thing we need is Joe after he came back as a cyborg.

Well they should put more info of Joe's past and they should add the original Gatchaman theme and the song that played at the end of the OVA when the team died.

I hope the focus isn't all about Joe in the movie really. I love the Condor but he's not the only one on the team and niether is Ken. I want a little bit more of Jun/Jinpei and Ryu in it. At least give Jun more of a history.

ITA Ebony! We just have to wait and see! As work on the movie is still way behind and nothing is established yet, including what we saw until now, there's still place for lots of changes in opinions and ideas and in the plot on the whole. We've only seen just bits and bobs until now which may reflect a wrong idea of what would be the final product! Each team member plays a significant part in the story and all of them deserve individual attention!

They could focus more on Gallactor soldiers commonly known as goons! Really they all deserved more respect for being the Ninja's kicking bags in every ep of the original series! Second thing I wish is the mechas won't make me slap my forehead in "d'oh!" at the sight of them! And if it's not too much, I'd wish a decently clad Gallactor captain of the week, that won't look like he just got out of bughouse! I'm also positive they'll keep Joe's sarcasm.

Hopefully they realize that the market that will make or break them is the 25 -- 45 group, not the 13 -- 24 group that many aim for. However, if they are smart they ought to be able to appease both by keeping the look and feel of the original, while modernizing it. Keep it fun, but not too campy, and make sure that the characters have character and are not just stereotypes.

After watching this video that somebody I'm subscribed to on YouTube uploaded today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BITpzx_sZ5o (I didn't even know he was a fan of the show too!), and hearing that hard rock cover of Larry Williams' Slow Down in the video, I think it would be cool if one of the songs on the soundtrack and in the movie was a brand new hard rock cover of that song by the band Airbourne. Alot of people have covered Slow Down (including The Beatles). I think AC/DC even covered it one time too. I could be wrong though. On a side note, the clips did not match the lyrics in the link I posted in this reply, but it fit with the pace though. Overall, I liked it.

Originally posted by Springie One of the things they mentioned early on was that this was going to show how the team began. I am hoping they stick with the original ideas from the series and somehow make them all work in the movie. I noticed that Joe was being taken into the ISO in handcuffs in one of the pics, while the rest of the team walked separately, so I am wondering if they plan on introducing Joe to the team after it has already formed. ...And this 'shipper is hoping for a few little hints at a budding romance...puppy love, at least?

I would like to see Ryu's head become more proportional to his body than in this shot. I hope they don't kill Joe off. I really liked the God Phoenix design used in the OAV, especially the way the wings reconfigured as needed. I'm trying to figure out why Joe's in handcuffs. Does anyone know where that came from or where it was going?

Originally posted by Becky Rock I'm trying to figure out why Joe's in handcuffs. Does anyone know where that came from or where it was going?

I personally don't know, Becky! I don't want to think that Joe could have been an outsider to the Team ... I would like the producers to abide with the original Gatchaman and keep the fraternal and family aspect alive (that is the ties that bind the Team together) and not depict them as strangers! I would like to think that, maybe, Joe had run off hotheadedly somewhere and they had to use hard measures in order to bring him back! But, I also think that it's useless trying to figure things out as I'm quite certain that all the plot and the work that has already been done will be changed if ever the movie will come out!

Originally posted by gatchamarie

Originally posted by Becky Rock I'm trying to figure out why Joe's in handcuffs. Does anyone know where that came from or where it was going?

I personally don't know, Becky! I don't want to think that Joe could have been an outsider to the Team ... I would like the producers to abide with the original Gatchaman and keep the fraternal and family aspect alive (that is the ties that bind the Team together) and not depict them as strangers! I would like to think that, maybe, Joe had run off hotheadedly somewhere and they had to use hard measures in order to bring him back! But, I also think that it's useless trying to figure things out as I'm quite certain that all the plot and the work that has already been done will be changed if ever the movie will come out!

That is exactly my thought as well Gatchamarie! And now with the latest news in the other thread last week, my hopes are dwindling even more that we will ever see the film made.

Not that it matters (because it's likely all going to change if it ever does see the light of day) but Joe was in handcuffs because he was a prisoner/criminal. He was offered a position on the SNT, and that is how he joins them. I can't recall the link, but someone posted a blog of what the first draft storyline was going to be for the movie, back when Kevin Munroe was still on the project. I'll look for it... Here it is: http://www.gatchamania.net/thread.php?threadid=2558&sid=

Thanks for the refreshing link, TJ! Well, there seems to be little abiding with the original Gatchaman there! Hope that if things were to change they'll change for good! CD, the same thing happened to me! I've almost lost all hopes!

Thanks TJ. Joe, a common criminal. The nerve.

That allows them to advertise the birth of a hero and all that sort of guff. Instead of an ensemble, it becomes about the redemption of one character. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but not when the source material doesn't support it. But that seems to be the trend these days. One in the spotlight, the rest as supporting cast. (Take a look at the 'Mission: Impossible' movies.)

WTF? Since when was Joe a common criminal? Why do certain people in Hollywood just like to change the source material from what it originally was? As if the bastardization the Wachowski Brothers did of Speed Racer wasn't enough. Now this! Oh boy, I have mixed feelings about the film now.

Hi all!

Why do certain people in Hollywood just like to change the source material from what it originally was?

While I certainly agree that what information regarding the plot for the film that had leaked out sounds uninspired and unoriginal, we do need to keep in mind that everything that had been done for the film is now on the scrap heap as we wait for the announcement of a new Director and Writer to come from Imagi -- assuming such a day ever comes. We can hope that, when and if that happens, the new staff will consist of people who will take the time to familarize themselves with the series and have enough respect for the source material to not make changes for the sake of making changes and won't try to fix what isn't broken. James

Originally posted by AllentownDarkWater WTF? Since when was Joe a common criminal? Why do certain people in Hollywood just like to change the source material from what it originally was? As if the bastardization the Wachowski Brothers did of Speed Racer wasn't enough. Now this! Oh boy, I have mixed feelings about the film now.

Who says Joe has to be a COMMON criminal? He could have been .... the son of an arms dealer - out to make Dad's life hard(er). Or .... the son of Galactor agents who would work in the underworld before showing their full might to the world. You know that could work, if you could find a dissatisfied child from Galactor to help you get to know the organization from the inside ..... *Down plot bunnies! down! * James is correct though, this story line is gone, I suspect for good, unless the new director decides they like what has been drawn up.

No, after its trashed the Motor pool for not letting him have one of those new Nissan Skyline GTRS...

I could see working the original story into it. Joe survived his parents murder and vowed revenge. He gets his revenge by stealing weapons from Galactor to give to Freedom Fighters who are already fighting Galactor. Its only when Galactor ups the stakes and adds mechs to their arsenal Gatahcman comes into being. I know everything is currently six feet deep, but we can still hope and speculate.

Hopefully the soundtrack won't just be a bunch of Nu Metal and stuff.