Gatchaman and BOTP Spinoffs/Tributes Week

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Transmute Jun
Transmute Jun Queen of the Bird Missiles posted 2 Feb 2009 07:11 (edited 2 Feb 2009 09:47)
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Not that long ago we had a thread talking about different cameos of Gatch in Yatterman and Spiderman, among others. This week I'd like to look at actual Gatch spinoffs, as well as 'tributes'. By now, we are all familiar with Gatchapin: But did you know there are animated drawings as well of the Science Ninja Team Gatchapin? There is no animated series yet, but I'm waiting! Additionally, there was a short-lived Tatsunoko Babies series: Don't ask me why the Tatsunoko Babies are singing. ??? Then there are the NTT commercials: And the Megas SLR S-Force episodes: And of course, the Nurse With Komugi ep: There are also some 'unofficial' tributes in the form of fan art. For example, here is a Swan cameo from a Simpsons opening: And some fan art Simpsons Gatch: These are chibi style Gatch done for an Eagle 5 Brothers video game: Muppet Gatch fan art: Sonic the Hedgehog goes Gatch: And by our very own LBorgia, Order of the Gatch! And last, I had to show this shot of Gatch teddy bears... too cute! Anyone have other images to share?
lborgia88
lborgia88 Gatchamaniac posted 2 Feb 2009 07:37
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These are great, TJ! I'd forgotten all about my "Order of the Stick does Gatch" photoshopping. The only thing I can think to add are two screencaps of yours from that Robot Chicken episode:
shamrokchick
shamrokchick Forum Legend posted 2 Feb 2009 07:45
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Of course Gatchapin and the chibi style gatch is too cute. The singing babies cracked me up Laugh1 The one set looks like gatch bunnies which seems strange, not sure what to think there. What are the NTT commericals? I love how Marge's hair goes right through the helmet Laugh2 Sonic gatch style is an interesting concept... I do like Sonic Wink LB, your pics are awesome Smile Oh, gatch teddy bears are really cute too! :cute:
shamrokchick
shamrokchick Forum Legend posted 2 Feb 2009 07:47
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Robot Chicken! I loved that skit Rofl I did Teen Titans a while ago but can't think of any others off the top of my head.
clouddancer
clouddancer Gatchamaniac posted 2 Feb 2009 09:11
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Thank you for all those spinoff captures TJ and LB.
Transmute Jun
Transmute Jun Queen of the Bird Missiles posted 2 Feb 2009 09:29
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Originally posted by lborgia88 These are great, TJ! I'd forgotten all about my "Order of the Stick does Gatch" photoshopping. The only thing I can think to add are two screencaps of yours from that Robot Chicken episode:
Oh yes! I forgot about that one going through my files because I have it in a sub directory. Grin Thanks, LB!
Transmute Jun
Transmute Jun Queen of the Bird Missiles posted 2 Feb 2009 09:44 (edited 2 Feb 2009 09:45)
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Originally posted by shamrokchick The one set looks like gatch bunnies which seems strange, not sure what to think there.
That is a scene from an episode of Nurse Witch Komugi. For some reason, the main character (female) always wears bunny ears. You can see it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4cumMj8Vqg
What are the NTT commericals?
NTT is a phone company in Japan. A little while ago they had a promotion running with some 'new Gatchaman' commercials. One set was animated, and the other was the same thing in live action. The KNT were played by the boy band SMAP (including Jun, who was played by a boy). You can see the animated version here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUjolhYWdic And here is the live action version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdRETvocvcY&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjR5YlGZ2tQ Oh gosh, I forgot about this!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOCzRmVpauc&feature=related And of course, those Bright Sky pseudo porn videos that crop up every so often... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbcjUmgZIXA And then who could forget the Commando G singers? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDIkoQJcp5g
trideegurl2
trideegurl2 Honoured Member posted 2 Feb 2009 10:11
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TJ, those links were great bua ha thanks, im so surprised how much parodies and spin-offs are out there
shamrokchick
shamrokchick Forum Legend posted 2 Feb 2009 12:43
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Ahhh... thanks for all those links The bunny ears just annoy me I guess, but seeing Nambu/Anderson with pink hair... ROFL 2 I really like the look of the NTT commericals... nice job Ooo... I forgot about PARK CLEAN Grin
Cain Highwind
Cain Highwind Exalted Member posted 2 Feb 2009 14:11 (edited 2 Feb 2009 14:24)
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Only ones I can think of adding is the character Waka from Okami who, as I understand it, was confirmed by Capcom to be based off of Gatchaman. Coincidentally, the Final boss in Okami, Yami, is the final boss in Tatsunoko vs Capcom, which pretty much confirms it I say. Also there's a fun little Power Rangers meets Gatchaman parody at the beginning of Yatterman 2008 Episode 22 http://www.veoh.com/videos/v15571310jAdng8Fy I was going to say. At my work someone found a Red Power Ranger toy and decided to place him by our Time clock. The guy had an emblem on his chest that looked like a cross between the #1 and the Ninja Team emblem, but yet I've tried looking around the internet, and I ahevn't been able to find where this one comes from.
lborgia88
lborgia88 Gatchamaniac posted 2 Feb 2009 14:29
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Originally posted by Cain Highwind Also there's a fun little Power Rangers meets Gatchaman parody at the beginning of Yatterman 2008 Episode 22 http://www.veoh.com/videos/v15571310jAdng8Fy
This one was completely new to me! I'm laughing at the roses, violets and sunflowers that appear when they call out their names. I'm guessing these three are roughly Ken, Joe and Ryu? Laugh1
Springie
Springie Her Royal Fluffiness...Swan of Swans... posted 2 Feb 2009 14:57
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That was awesome, Cain! I hadn't seen it before! I'm so glad we have all of these cameos/parodies in one thread! They are so much fun to watch! animeskip
Transmute Jun
Transmute Jun Queen of the Bird Missiles posted 2 Feb 2009 15:19
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Thanks for the Yatterman link, Cain! I hadn't seen that one either!
Condorfan
Condorfan Master Boardie posted 3 Feb 2009 19:53
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Those Gatch teddie bears are cute! and thanks for the Simpsons art too-I always wondered what the Science Ninja Team would look like Simpsonized although I had imagined: Homer-G5 Marge-G3 Bart-G2 Lisa-G1 Maggie-G4
meridianday
meridianday Galaxy Girl posted 4 Feb 2009 01:21
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Does "Heroes del Espacio" count? This is a spanish language dub of a thing made by the korean animation company that worked on Gatchaman 2, and is a sort of hour long compressed version of Gatch 2. It's all very recognisable, but doesn't use the same animation.
Transmute Jun
Transmute Jun Queen of the Bird Missiles posted 4 Feb 2009 06:24
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Originally posted by meridianday Does "Heroes del Espacio" count? This is a spanish language dub of a thing made by the korean animation company that worked on Gatchaman 2, and is a sort of hour long compressed version of Gatch 2. It's all very recognisable, but doesn't use the same animation.
Do you have a copy of it, Meridian? I've heard about it, and I'd love to see screenshots!
meridianday
meridianday Galaxy Girl posted 4 Feb 2009 07:29
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I do have a copy on tape, but I don't have any way to get screenshots from it as I don't currently have a working VCR. The quality of the tapes I have is also very bad. I seem to recall that Gel Sadra is grown from a dark haired boy rather than a blonde girl though.
Transmute Jun
Transmute Jun Queen of the Bird Missiles posted 4 Feb 2009 08:01
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Originally posted by meridianday I do have a copy on tape, but I don't have any way to get screenshots from it as I don't currently have a working VCR. The quality of the tapes I have is also very bad. I seem to recall that Gel Sadra is grown from a dark haired boy rather than a blonde girl though.
Yes, and I heard that there were weird things done to Pandora as well!
tatsunokofan Gatch Guru posted 4 Feb 2009 13:27
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Hi all! The only place I've seen screengrabs from Heroes del Espacio is in the photos section of the Yahoo! Groups Gatchaman Club site, originally posted back in March of 2002. Here are those images, along with the captions that went with them: Marco with his Dad, and falling underwater Marco is force-grown by X A shot of X, and the exterior of his base. The Snack "Yumi?!?" The Ninja Team watches some TV Jinpei Pan... Dr. Pandora tries to kill X. Gel Sadra/Marco finds out the truth about himself. Marco tries to kill X. The Ninja Team finally kill X. The Ninja Team is victorious. The video contains some footage that appeared in Gatchaman II, but most of it is original to this production. Visually, there are numerous points of similiarity to Gatchaman II, but many of them are slightly askew to what we're used to. The biggest, of course, is that Gel Sadra is now a young boy named Marco. Other changes are less obvious, like Pandroa wearing a low-cut version (Particularly in the back) of her standard dress, colored in reds instead of blues. Much of the stories condensed into these videos follow similar territory to their Gatchaman II counterparts, but with unusual changes. these changes include Gel Sadra attacking X with the Iron Demon Dragon from Gatchaman II #38 and the Ninja Team defeating X by using the Tornado Fighter. Then there's stuff that you really wouldn't expect, like the fantasy sequence with Jinpei dreaming he's Peter Pan and the little girl from Gatchaman II #6 is his Wendy, and a redoing of the scene in the Snack Jun from Gatchaman #67, where the Ninja Team beats up the jerks who are badmouthing them. All I know is that, after the first time I watched this, all the switching back and forth between what was familiar and what wasn't made my brain hurt. The known facts regarding Heroes del Espacio are few, but here's what we have. The visuals were made at some point by a Korean studio. This is evidenced by the sporadic appearance of Korean text in the course of things, and by a few frames with Korean text that appear at poorly done edit points, such as these: These visuals were brought over to Spain, where they were dubbed into Spanish and released on at least 2 bargain videotapes, the covers of which looked like this: Tatsunoko was not directly involved in the production, and was unaware of its existence until they were provided with copies of the material around 2001 or 2002. Beyond that, all we've got to go on is speculation, and this part should be treated as such. It is assumed that the studio that produced the visuals is the same Korean studio that Tatsunoko farmed out some of their production work to. This assumption was made because that studio would have had access to the production materials used in making Gatchaman II, and could easily have dug them out to make this. This was the same supposition that Tatsunoko made when they saw the videos. It is possible that this was taken from a new version of Eagle 5 Brothers. Eagle 5 Brothers was the Korean title for the original Gatchaman series when it aired there in the 1970s. In the mid-1990s, there was a sudden wave of Eagle 5 Brothers merchandise that appeared in Korean stores, much of it with listings for the network that was airing the series, all of which seems to indicate that the series was on the air in some fashion. As all of that merchandise was based on Gatchaman II and Gatchaman Fighter, it seems reasonable that the series airing at that time was not the first series. As no videos from that broadcast of Eagle 5 Brothers have surfaced, it's currently impossible to tell whether that series was actually Gatchaman II, if it was this new material, or if it was a rerun of the original series. That the Heroes del Espacio videos appeared in Spain within a couple of years of this Korean Eagle 5 Brothers surge adds to the suspicion that a newly created Korean series was the source for this material. We know that there were two videotapes worth of material dubbed into Spanish, but that doesn't mean that this is all that was made. Were these condensed from a TV series that aired in Spain? If so, how many episodes were there? The two known videotapes are labeled 1 and 2, but were there any others? They wrap up the story at the end of volume 2, but that doesn't mean they couldn't have released more. We may never know all the facts relating to Heroes del Espacio, but I think it's safe to say that, on the Gatchaman family tree, it'll always remain that weird cousin that no one wants to invite over for the holidays. James
lborgia88
lborgia88 Gatchamaniac posted 4 Feb 2009 21:07
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Wow, I'd never heard of Heroes del Espacio! This is bizzare! I have to say, however, that the Korean artists (if that's who they were) did a much better job creating "new footage" than the people employed to draw the "ready room" and "Zark" scenes for BOTP.
shamrokchick
shamrokchick Forum Legend posted 5 Feb 2009 09:37
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I've never come accross this either, but interesting...
gatchgirl
gatchgirl Babbling Loonie posted 5 Feb 2009 19:48
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I don't think I had seen anything on this before either.
Barrdwing
Barrdwing Exalted Member posted 10 Feb 2009 21:02
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Oh, Heroes del Espacio! Mother of pearl, that one is a real lulu! It's like Gatch on serious drugs. smoke
Condorfan
Condorfan Master Boardie posted 14 Feb 2009 09:42
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Would "Time Bokan" count as a Gatchaman spinoff?
Transmute Jun
Transmute Jun Queen of the Bird Missiles posted 14 Feb 2009 12:30
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Depends on your definition! It was done by Tatsunoko, so it is somewhat more 'legit'. Wink
tatsunokofan Gatch Guru posted 14 Feb 2009 14:49 (edited 14 Feb 2009 15:06)
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Hi all!
Depends on your definition! It was done by Tatsunoko, so it is somewhat more 'legit'.
Well, if you want to exclude all the productions in which Tatsunoko had a hand, then you'll have to remove Gatchapin, Tatsunoko Baby, the NTT commercials, Komugi, and Yatterman as well. The studio was involved in some capacity with all of those. Actually, by the common usage of the term "spinoff," none of them would apply. A spinoff is usually when you take one or more characters fom an existing program and create a whole new series around them, like "The Jeffersons" coming from "All in the Family," "Good Times" coming from "Maude," and both "Rhoda" and "Phyllis" coming from "The Mary Tyler Moore Show." Heck, the "Nurse Witch Komugi-chan" OAVs are even a spinoff from "The Soultaker" TV series. "Gatchaman II" and "Gatchaman Fighter" would be considered sequels, not spinoffs, since them continued directly from the original series. Most of the productions mentioned in this thread would be remakes (Like the NTT spots), a tribute/homage (Like the "Yatterman" and "Time Bokan"guest appearances), or parodies (Like "Nurse Witch Komugi-chan"). Heroes del Espacio" would probably be considered a forgery, plagiarism, or just plain theft. James
shamrokchick
shamrokchick Forum Legend posted 14 Feb 2009 21:21
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Originally posted by tatsunokofan Heroes del Espacio" would probably be considered a forgery, plagiarism, or just plain theft. James
Definitely some copyright infringement Wink
yul
yul Exalted Member posted 18 Feb 2009 12:24 (edited 18 Feb 2009 12:27)
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Gatchaman costumes in episode 22 of "J-Decker Brave Police" - http://diary.ru/~Gatchaman/p61867906.htm#
Transmute Jun
Transmute Jun Queen of the Bird Missiles posted 18 Feb 2009 12:55
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That's cool! Thanks for posting, Yul!
Springie
Springie Her Royal Fluffiness...Swan of Swans... posted 18 Feb 2009 12:58
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Oh wow...Yul, I hadn't heard of that series before, but it looks like Transformers...
Ebonyswanne
Ebonyswanne Gatchamaniac posted 18 Feb 2009 14:48
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I like the feathers instead of the little antenna...
shamrokchick
shamrokchick Forum Legend posted 19 Feb 2009 12:09
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Originally posted by Springie Oh wow...Yul, I hadn't heard of that series before, but it looks like Transformers...
I was thinking the same thing...
Cain Highwind
Cain Highwind Exalted Member posted 19 Feb 2009 20:18
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Originally posted by shamrokchick
Originally posted by Springie Oh wow...Yul, I hadn't heard of that series before, but it looks like Transformers...
I was thinking the same thing...
Me too, I have never heard of this series before...
tatsunokofan Gatch Guru posted 19 Feb 2009 20:50
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Hi all!
Oh wow...Yul, I hadn't heard of that series before, but it looks like Transformers...
There's a reason for this, as this will help explain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_series Not that I'd normally recommend Wikipedia as a source for information, but what they have here is essentially correct... James
minerboh Former Lurker posted 9 May 2011 10:01
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WOW! Looks interesting! Anyone know where i can find Gatchapin & Megas SLR S-Force for download or buy?
amethyst
amethyst Wanted: $1000 Reward posted 9 May 2011 12:26
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I'd just google what you are looking for adding download and see what comes up. I've found almost all of the comics that way.
Transmute Jun
Transmute Jun Queen of the Bird Missiles posted 9 May 2011 12:45
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Minerboh, often the Megas XLR episodes come up on Youtube. You can also find Gatchapin clips there too. As for a more regular viewing of Gatchapin, the episodes are posted on Tatsunoko's website. There are instructions on how to view them here: http://www.gatchamania.net/thread.php?threadid=2311&sid=
UnpublishedWriter
UnpublishedWriter Gatchamaniac posted 9 May 2011 14:36
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No pics!!!
Originally posted by tatsunokofan Hi all! The only place I've seen screengrabs from Heroes del Espacio is in the photos section of the Yahoo! Groups Gatchaman Club site, originally posted back in March of 2002. Here are those images, along with the captions that went with them: Marco with his Dad, and falling underwater Marco is force-grown by X A shot of X, and the exterior of his base. The Snack "Yumi?!?" The Ninja Team watches some TV Jinpei Pan... Dr. Pandora tries to kill X. Gel Sadra/Marco finds out the truth about himself. Marco tries to kill X. The Ninja Team finally kill X. The Ninja Team is victorious. The video contains some footage that appeared in Gatchaman II, but most of it is original to this production. Visually, there are numerous points of similiarity to Gatchaman II, but many of them are slightly askew to what we're used to. The biggest, of course, is that Gel Sadra is now a young boy named Marco. Other changes are less obvious, like Pandroa wearing a low-cut version (Particularly in the back) of her standard dress, colored in reds instead of blues. Much of the stories condensed into these videos follow similar territory to their Gatchaman II counterparts, but with unusual changes. these changes include Gel Sadra attacking X with the Iron Demon Dragon from Gatchaman II #38 and the Ninja Team defeating X by using the Tornado Fighter. Then there's stuff that you really wouldn't expect, like the fantasy sequence with Jinpei dreaming he's Peter Pan and the little girl from Gatchaman II #6 is his Wendy, and a redoing of the scene in the Snack Jun from Gatchaman #67, where the Ninja Team beats up the jerks who are badmouthing them. All I know is that, after the first time I watched this, all the switching back and forth between what was familiar and what wasn't made my brain hurt. The known facts regarding Heroes del Espacio are few, but here's what we have. The visuals were made at some point by a Korean studio. This is evidenced by the sporadic appearance of Korean text in the course of things, and by a few frames with Korean text that appear at poorly done edit points, such as these: These visuals were brought over to Spain, where they were dubbed into Spanish and released on at least 2 bargain videotapes, the covers of which looked like this: Tatsunoko was not directly involved in the production, and was unaware of its existence until they were provided with copies of the material around 2001 or 2002. Beyond that, all we've got to go on is speculation, and this part should be treated as such. It is assumed that the studio that produced the visuals is the same Korean studio that Tatsunoko farmed out some of their production work to. This assumption was made because that studio would have had access to the production materials used in making Gatchaman II, and could easily have dug them out to make this. This was the same supposition that Tatsunoko made when they saw the videos. It is possible that this was taken from a new version of Eagle 5 Brothers. Eagle 5 Brothers was the Korean title for the original Gatchaman series when it aired there in the 1970s. In the mid-1990s, there was a sudden wave of Eagle 5 Brothers merchandise that appeared in Korean stores, much of it with listings for the network that was airing the series, all of which seems to indicate that the series was on the air in some fashion. As all of that merchandise was based on Gatchaman II and Gatchaman Fighter, it seems reasonable that the series airing at that time was not the first series. As no videos from that broadcast of Eagle 5 Brothers have surfaced, it's currently impossible to tell whether that series was actually Gatchaman II, if it was this new material, or if it was a rerun of the original series. That the Heroes del Espacio videos appeared in Spain within a couple of years of this Korean Eagle 5 Brothers surge adds to the suspicion that a newly created Korean series was the source for this material. We know that there were two videotapes worth of material dubbed into Spanish, but that doesn't mean that this is all that was made. Were these condensed from a TV series that aired in Spain? If so, how many episodes were there? The two known videotapes are labeled 1 and 2, but were there any others? They wrap up the story at the end of volume 2, but that doesn't mean they couldn't have released more. We may never know all the facts relating to Heroes del Espacio, but I think it's safe to say that, on the Gatchaman family tree, it'll always remain that weird cousin that no one wants to invite over for the holidays. James
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