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Last post by Ebonyswanne 19 Jan 2009 20:22
I was just reading an article on Anime News Network about IMAGI financial outlook for the future. Although Astro Boy will be released at the end of the year the financial forecast for their other movies including Gatchaman looks doubtful. Here's the link to the article:
Anime News Network article
I certainly hope things will change so that the Gatchaman movie can be made or else I will
Ahhhhh crap, although, its not really too much of a suprise, the way things were going.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 5 Jan 2009 09:52
I don't think it's the end. It just means that Imagi is looking for financing.
I certainly hope that things change around for them.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 5 Jan 2009 14:47
Thank you for the news condorfan. I am still of the opinion we will see what happens WHEN it happens.
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 5 Jan 2009 16:56
Originally posted by Transmute Jun I don't think it's the end. It just means that Imagi is looking for financing.Ita a Galactor plot I tell you!!!
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 5 Jan 2009 17:41
Aren't they all?
shamrokchick
Forum Legend
posted 5 Jan 2009 20:36
Originally posted by Condorfan I certainly hope things will change so that the Gatchaman movie can be made or else I willI agree with you on that one
tatsunokofan
Gatch Guru
posted 16 Jan 2009 17:11
Hi all!
On Felix Ip's blog (At http://felixip.blogspot.com/ ), a fellow named Andrew asked the following:
so what's the news on Gatchaman????? is that not in the works anymore???? Please tell me you guys are still working on Gatchaman!!!!!!!!Felix's response was as follows:
Gatchaman is still in work now, don't worry. there's great breakthrough in both story and design, very cool. I can't talk too much, but you will be happy when you see any work in the future. i will keep you guys update.It's not really news exactly, but it's the closest thing we've had to any sort of confirmation that work on the movie is continuing. Just figured you'd want to know! James
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 16 Jan 2009 18:00
Oh, yes I am pleased to hear this, but it makes me wonder what the breakthroughs are, especially the one(s) in design.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 16 Jan 2009 18:23
That's good to hear! I've been wondering why Jun Falkenstein hasn't been saying anything on her blog about it...
Oh, this cheers me up! Nothing is guaranteed in this universe, but any positive remarks about the film from someone involved in its production give me hope.
tatsunokofan
Gatch Guru
posted 17 Jan 2009 03:10
Hi all!
I've been wondering why Jun Falkenstein hasn't been saying anything on her blog about it...Assuming she's even still involved with it. With a lack of any official announcement of her involvement and the total lack of any sort of news regarding her work on the "mystery film" on her blog for months now, it makes me wonder if she might have joined the likes of Kevin Munroe, Robert Mark Kamen, and Paul Dini in the "At one time associated with..." column. And, speaking of Imagi, here's another recent article that gives a few detail regarding their financial situation: The Rescue Of Astro Boy Robyn Meredith, 01.14.09, 06:00 PM EST Forbes Magazine dated February 02, 2009 Amid the financial crisis a Hong Kong animation house with superheroic ambitions gets a reprieve for its exciting project. Not far from a Hong Kong dock where Chinese cargo exports were feeling the pinch of a world financial crash, another kind of factory was humming. To get there, you must take a skyscraper's elevator to the 23rd floor and get past a locked door guarded by a face-recognition security system. Only then can you enter the darkened room where hundreds of young adults lean close to computer screens, bringing fictional characters to life. They are the 400-strong movie animation staff of Imagi, which aspires to be the DreamWorks of Asia. One animator used his mouse to wiggle the onscreen nose of a character he's been programming, while next to him someone was tweaking the facial expressions of a robot dog in a movie called Astro Boy. Yahoo! BuzzThe staff, dressed mostly in jeans and untucked shirts, their workdays spent creating the imaginary world of Japanese comic book hero Astro, had no clue in mid-November that they were at risk of losing their jobs or that the promising movie they were working on might not make it to the big screen. Their boss, Douglas Glen, Imagi's chief executive, had just come back from the American Film Market in Los Angeles, which was devastated by the gloom and doom spanning the globe. "If markets don't return to some semblance of normalcy, it is going to be difficult to keep operations going," an ashen-faced Glen told a visitor. Only two months before he had triumphantly secured $30 million in financing for his movie animation company. Then $20 million of it fell through. Imagi wasn't the only moviemaker in trouble--the whole industry was crippled by the credit crunch. In November at the Film Market "it was absolutely bleak," says D. Jeffrey Andrick, managing director of Continental Entertainment Capital, a Beverly Hills company that serves as a merchant banker specializing in the movie industry. Continental brought to Citigroup The Spirit, the $50 million-plus Frank Miller film that opened on Christmas Day. "It may have been the worst environment I've seen at the American Film Market." Indeed, Continental had a capital partnership with Citi, and after the subprime crisis Citi pulled out. Other banks, along with hedge funds and institutional investors, have dramatically dialed back their recent freewheeling backing for moviemaking, Andrick says. But just like the animated hero of Astro Boy, Imagi has proved a survivor. In December it was promised $20 million in replacement financing, allowing the movie to go forward and the Hong Kong animators to keep their jobs. "At the last second we got untied from the railroad tracks," Glen says. "It's a little cinematic." The substitute funding was arranged by Chicago private equity firm Prescient Advisors. Imagi's first big hit came in 2007 with a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie animation that grossed $100 million. Astro Boy, with a $65 million budget, is supposed to be released later this year in the U.S. on Oct. 23 and in Japan over the Christmas holidays. It is a classic Japanese comic book story of a robot designer in a world of the future who, heartbroken after the death of his son, builds an android to replace him. After Astro Boy's "father" rejects him, he sets off on a journey of adventure and redemption. "It's got a lot of promise," says Andrick, who's not an investor but saw clips of Astro Boy at the Film Market. It has a built-in fan base of those who remember the comic book--not just in Japan but also around the world. In the U.S. Astro Boy was the top children's syndicated TV show for three years during the 1970s. People used to say the film industry was recession-proof. In the Great Depression even out-of-work people would scare up a quarter to see a matinee starring a tuxedo-clad Cary Grant or Fred Astaire acting out some fantasy. In this recession the demand is still there--but not the financing. "There was a great outpouring of funds available, and there's now a great shortage," says Jonathan Dolgen, former head of the Viacom Entertainment Group and its Paramount Pictures unit. He is now a principal of Wood River Ventures, a new firm that focuses primarily on media investments. "That's going to result in fewer films being made." DreamWorks itself has run into trouble. After it assembled a $1.2 billion debt and equity deal in late September to split from Paramount, the equity piece, from India's Reliance Group, came through. The debt portion, which was to be syndicated by jpmorgan Chase, has run into delays. While DreamWorks has Steven Spielberg, Imagi got into the movie animation business only after it got out of the business of making artificial Christmas trees in Chinese factories. Francis Kao, 32, urged his father, Michael Kao, to sell the manufacturing business and seek higher service-industry margins. The founder sold the tree business to the Carlyle Group and later retired, handing the company reins to his son, who is now Imagi's chairman and chief creative officer. The Kao family retains more than a third of the company, while another large backer is Hong Kong's Winnington Capital, with more than 20% of the company. Imagi gradually built up a stable of computer graphics specialists and expanded into TV production work; it moved on to animate DreamWorks' Father of the Pride TV series on NBC in 2003. After the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles hit, with a big-screen gross more than twice the production cost, Imagi hired two executives from DreamWorks, Kenneth Tsumura and Timothy Cheung (the animator who brought Shrek to life), and brought them to Hong Kong to train a generation of animators in computer graphics. Imagi now has three films in production: Astro Boy, then the sci-fi ninja story of Gatchaman, planned for the fall of 2010, followed by Tusker, which will be reminiscent of Disney's Lion King, scheduled for the summer of 2011. "They are all heroes' journeys," says Glen, a former Mattel and Sega executive. They teach lessons gently, "like Flintstones vitamins--you make sure you package it in a way that's attractive to kids, but they're good for you." What's attractive to investors--at least in normal times--is that Hong Kong is much cheaper than Hollywood for creating computer animation. Of course there are cheaper places: China, Malaysia, the Philippines and India. But lower costs are just part of the story, Glen says: "What makes Imagi magical is the combination of the story development in Los Angeles" with 120 employees there, "combined with the skills in turning those designs into pixels on the screen that you've got here in Hong Kong." That kind of globalization may enable this outfit to survive what is shaping up to be a nasty economic storm. The original aritcle can be found here: http://www.forbes.com/technology/forbes/2009/0202/072.html James
"In December it was promised $20 million in replacement financing, allowing the movie to go forward and the Hong Kong animators to keep their jobs."
This is very good news, both for Imagi and for Astroboy fans. I see they're saying "the fall of 2010" for Gatchaman now. I hope that Imagi continues to get funding as they need it!
Cain Highwind
Exalted Member
posted 17 Jan 2009 08:33
Nice to hear the movie is still in the works, hope we can see some of these "awesome designs" soon.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 17 Jan 2009 09:45
Thanks for the information, James! And I hadn't thought about it before, but you're right, it makes a lot of sense that Jun might not even be on the project anymore, given that they still haven't officially announced the new director. Regardless, this 'breakthrough' that Felix Ip talks about implies that there must be someone in charge of co-ordination. Or maybe not, Heck, what do I know? I'm an accountant, not a creative type!
Regardless, funding for Astroboy is a good thing.If that movie is profitable, it will carry them (financially) through to Gatchaman, and make it more palatable for other investors to dip their toes in the Imagi waters.
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 17 Jan 2009 13:06
Glad to hear they haven't canned the whole project...
Springie if they fail we may have to do it ourselves...
Springie; resident artist can do the drawings
TJ, Ebony, Hino, and a few others can write the script...(Mainly because we write ficcies set in Gatchaman.)
Tats can be resident Guru for Cannon information...hows the production team looking so far...
I say we use that lovely, smutty IF!! I'm ready with my pencils! Hope you guys don't mind a low budget, low resolution movie!
That just leaves the musical score.
Anyone here with musical composition skiils?
(or willingness to beg Tatsunoko for permission to use the original numbers?)
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 17 Jan 2009 17:56
Originally posted by lborgia88 That just leaves the musical score. Anyone here with musical composition skiils? (or willingness to beg Tatsunoko for permission to use the original numbers?)Ummm? Which of the original numbers would you use for the smut scenes?![]()
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And there would be lots of them if TJ and LB were left up to the script.
Originally posted by clouddancerOh, use the theme from G-Force! With that backbeat, it's perfect!Originally posted by lborgia88 That just leaves the musical score. Anyone here with musical composition skiils? (or willingness to beg Tatsunoko for permission to use the original numbers?)Ummm? Which of the original numbers would you use for the smut scenes?![]()
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And there would be lots of them if TJ and LB were left up to the script.
Originally posted by clouddancer Ummm? Which of the original numbers would you use for the smut scenes?I believe there was 'love theme' music IIRC... they used it as the 'happy peaceful background music' at times... Let me check my iTunes... it's called Fushichou no Youni. The Crescent Moon piece would work as well. And for those of us who watched BOTP, there's the Ready Room Disco (if you're into cheesy smut) or (if you're super twisted) Zark's Theme. Oh... this is too much fun... imagining the smut scenes to these pieces. Bwaaaaaa haaaaa haaaaaa.....And there would be lots of them if TJ and LB were left up to the script.
ETA: I'm listening to Ready Room Disco right now, thanks to this post, and I just can't stop the giggles....
I'm no use here -I can hum the Gatch tunes that I like best to myself here, but I have no idea what they're called.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 17 Jan 2009 21:25
Originally posted by lborgia88 I'm no use here -I can hum the Gatch tunes that I like best to myself here, but I have no idea what they're called.I only know because I have mp3s with the titles. If you really want those tunes, drop me an email.
Oh. My. Gawd. I am laughing so hard at this that my sides hurt! Is the world ready for Ready Room Disco porn?
I can't think of the Crescent Coral Base theme..all I can think of is that annoying beep in the background whenever they are there...
I will never hear these background pieces the same way again....
Thanks for the info on Imagi's finances, James. Interesting about the third movie ("Tusker") that Imagi's planning on producing and releasing... "Reminiscent of the Lion King", huh? Wasn't the whole debate about the Lion King that it was a rip-off of the anime "Kimba, the White Lion"?
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 18 Jan 2009 07:57
Originally posted by Springie Oh. My. Gawd. I am laughing so hard at this that my sides hurt! Is the world ready for Ready Room Disco porn?Don't forget, you've been nominated to draw it!
I would absolutely tackle the production management/producers role on that film! First thing I'd do is make sure the casting couch was in a warm, comfy place . . .
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 18 Jan 2009 09:13
You guy have me cracking up with all those images.
James thanks for the insight to some hope for the new movie. Lets just hope it doesn't fall through.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 18 Jan 2009 11:32
Originally posted by gogirl212 I would absolutely tackle the production management/producers role on that film! First thing I'd do is make sure the casting couch was in a warm, comfy place . . .GoGirl, these are VOICE actors. Have you *seen* Casey Kasem recently?
Originally posted by Transmute JunIt would be good to know the titles, so I wouldn't have to think of them as "that slow horn piece that plays when something sad is happening" or the "dunh, dunh, dunh music that starts whenever there's suspense and foreboding"!Originally posted by lborgia88 I'm no use here -I can hum the Gatch tunes that I like best to myself here, but I have no idea what they're called.I only know because I have mp3s with the titles. If you really want those tunes, drop me an email.
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 18 Jan 2009 12:01
Originally posted by lborgia88I recognize that - the dunh dunh, dunh, dunh. Pop. Whirrrrr piece I call it. Not sure if there really is a pop but that is how I remember it.Originally posted by Transmute JunIt would be good to know the titles, so I wouldn't have to think of them as "that slow horn piece that plays when something sad is happening" or the "dunh, dunh, dunh music that starts whenever there's suspense and foreboding"!Originally posted by lborgia88 I'm no use here -I can hum the Gatch tunes that I like best to myself here, but I have no idea what they're called.I only know because I have mp3s with the titles. If you really want those tunes, drop me an email.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 18 Jan 2009 13:16
Then there's one of my favorites: the 'Happy Shupa Trumpet Music'.
Cheap and smutty with a love triangle between the Eagle and Swan and Condor... Angsty angsty and then of course the 'love song' that goes along with it. A mutant baddy and some Galactor goons with wacky mechas and big guns....
Sounds like my kinda Gatchaman movie...lets get started girls and guys!!!
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