Hey guys -- Long time no chat!! So i am finally back in fic mode (moreso reading than writing) and am looking for recommendations. Quite possibly the best are all here (yay gatchamaniacs) but there are a ton of sites out there housing fics we don't. The whole hit and miss thing is a minor irritation to me and I feel somewhat guilty if I hit a FF.net page and give up after the first chapter because I'm not hooked and don't leave a review. I don't like to leave a negative review and won't lie about it just to leave something for the writer. Am I making any sense? IMHO hits and no reviews is bad because I am a serial hitter and won't leave a review if I don't like it. I am sure you all are the same... So, yeah .. No review = bad... Personally reviews don't matter to me because I'll write regardless (and I know my shit can be hard to wade through ... :chuckle ... But it matters to others and I want to be a good reader... Now that has to make sense, yes? So I want to know what fics have sparked your attention. This way I can find what is good, read it, and leave a review for a writer I really want to keep reading. So tell me where and what you've enjoyed! Yeah I'm BOTP not Gatch, but you guys make me read and enjoy Gatch fics, so maybe some other writers might make me do the same.. So share share what is out there on the net and recommend something delish for me to read.... Who are the best writers in our fandom? Can't wait to hear from you all... SJ

Oh I should add that I have only recently jumped back into the BOTP/Gatch fic list and haven't yet read anything here. So if I haven't left a review for y'all, it's because I haven't read it yet. I am voicing this from my frustration on the CSI fic lists. There is so much shit out there that I haven't yet read any BOTP/Gatch ones beside Maddy's report fic that I fucking loved!! I left a review under a different monniker (my ff.net one) .... So I hope you got it, maddy.... SJ

Originally posted by SJ_SwanJun Quite possibly the best are all here (yay gatchamaniacs) but there are a ton of sites out there housing fics we don't. SJ

All the Gatch/BOTP fics that I've read lately are here, at ff.net, the Archives or the Clubhouse, and are by authors you would know, so you've probably already seen them. I agree that there are probably good Gatch/BOTP fics hidden out there somewhere, on sites that are less well known. I used to read a lot of fics in the Harry Potter fandom, and a lot them were on livejournal sites, that didn't always make them easy to find.

LOL Okay, so I've tried to read some of the fics here, but I can't download them! I keep getting a message saying that I need to pay for a program to view them... I'll have to hit FF.net then ... you guys all post there too, right? What are your FF names, guys? SJ

Hey SJ!I have trouble downloading from here, too! I think most of us here also post under the same names at the new Gatchfanfic Archive...I need to be reading more and posting comments...the pictures just keep me side tracked! Gatch Archives

Ahhhh the forum I am terrified to post in ... Thanke Springie -- I'll check out some of those tomorrow ... SJ

Why are you terrified? I thought you already had some of your fics posted there?

Oh ... Gosh ... no. Unless those were from the original fic archive, and they are reeeeeeeeeallly old fics - and really bad ones. That was right before I got timid because I don't have a great grasp on the whole grammar thing, and I don't have a beta reader. Which makes no sense to me. Like, really. I am the grammar nazi at work. I proof and edit all of the memo's and announcements at work, as well as create policy and procedure manuals (yesh, get that -- the receptionist CREATES the manuals)... And I create training manuals... All technically perfect. But when I write a story I can't get it right. To me the gatch archive is all polished stuff (and REEEALLY HIGH calibre stuff) ... I'm intimidated there. I gotto say, the creater of the new archive needs massive kudos. That is now a gorgeous, wonderful, amazing site!!!!! Glorious to navigate, and makes FF.net look like a preschooler effort. Whoever he/she is ... I get on my knees and worship! Gotto go .... SJ

SJ! Wonderful to see you back! Yes - I did get your review and saw that you've been uploading on ff.net as well (yes - I do have you favorited!) and will get to reading them shortly. Also hope you liked the "special" BotP fic I did for your birthday.

There was a "special" fic done for me?????!!!! Is Hotmail being a bitch again???? Which one is it, and I will go off and hunt it out! Oh the FF uploads?? HA! Yeah I have been posting up some oldies and have a new one that is about a day away from being finished called "Revenge"... Over the past two days, two of my fics have been added to peoples Favourite fic lists, which is pretty freaking cool! Wish I had someone with the patience to Beta my stuff though, maybe I'd end up with something more polished to share. I know when Mona did the job on Flowers, the changes and additions we both went through just made it my very favourite. When I finish Revenge, I am going to go through and edit some of my older stuff, see if I can improve on them a little. Am going to get sneaky later today and will visit the Gatch archive to read some stuff... Gotto go -- at work... THANKEE!!!! SJ

Ahh - see you missed your entire birthday thread! Can find it (and fic) at: SJ's Birthday fic (I haven't posted this at ff.net yet) Think you also missed "The Owl and the Pussycat" which is a generations-verse vignette that I posted to FF.net on the same day. It was written as part of a 1000 word challenge on the BotP mailing list (1000 words - piffle! Is easy to write a fic in 1000 words! Keeping it to 500 or less - now THAT would be a challenge!) I thought I recognised some of the titles of the older stuff - I definitely remember "Mistletoe and Moonlight" (think that's its name) with pleasure. Looks like this weekend am going to be catching up on my reading as well! As for the Gatchafanfic archives - still the same person in charge, but she installed some fic software and has been tweaking ad really working hard on it. I agree- it looks really slick and is so easy to use and upload onto now!

Hey, don't sell yourself short! There are all kinds of fics there from authors in a wide range of writing experience! As a matter of fact, just about all of my fics are there...beta'd or unbeta'd...I figure if someone doesn't like them, as long as they tell me something constructive I'm ok with it...and the same goes for my pics. The same negative people can be found at any site, when you really think about it. And, while I'm at it...how about posting those beautiful pics of yours? That last Swannie you drew was to die for! So where's that sassy Swannie we all know? Get posting!

Oh, btw...isn't "Secret Admiration" yours?

Squealll! Oh Maddy. As usual I am your slathering and rabid little fangirl. I so have a girlcrush on you -- did you know that? No matter what you write, I just fall in love with it ... Sigh... I really want to be you when I grow up! I will read both of those over and over gain!! Springie, baybe. Yeah, Secret Admiration is mine. I remember whenI originally wrote that I was on the botp list and massively pissed off (and arguing with certain members). My fics were being used as examples of how NOT to write and I really wanted to see if it was me they were picking on, or if my work really truly did bite ass. I posted it under a different name. Lo and behold, it was rather well received. I even had another writer on thie list decide to plagarise some of it in their own fic. I never said anything about that, but it was the final straw for me at the list. So I left. I believe it ended up on the Gatch Archive under a different name, so it is never actually associated with me. I might toss around the idea of posting up there, but am still a little timid to do so. I'll see how I feel when Revenge is done (today or tomorrow) ... Hey, do they accept smut over there???? I need somewhere to post it and FFnet doesn't allow it... SJ

I loved Secret Admiration...such a sweet story...I had no idea all of that was going on! Although, I can understand your frustration with the BOTP list...I hardly ever post there anymore. And yes...please consider posting there...it has a wider audience like FF.net, but I think it is better...esp. since I can embed pics into my fics Oh, and they do accept smut, you just have to label it as such when you upload (there is a ratings system)!

Originally posted by SJ_SwanJun Hey, do they accept smut over there???? I need somewhere to post it and FFnet doesn't allow it... SJ

Well, as Springie says, you can post smut at ff.net, but they don't allow "NC-17" smut. You can, however, label a fic "M for mature" which is what I did with some (okay, most) of mine there. I think that there's only a problem if someone complains, and I don't think that Gatch/BOTP exactly draws in the really young readers, so what are the odds of a complaint?

And there is always www.adultfanfiction.net (yes - I have smut there too......) Unfortunately, some of it is not really that well written, but those of us who are behind the scenes over there (yes, I'm one of them) are working on ways to combat that.

Ill have to work on mine Im Kondoru on FF net, but most is non gatch Im afraid.