Saw the trailer for Kung fu Panda and thought it would be funny and guess what.....It was funny.

I took my daughter who was 14months to a mum's and bub's session of Narnia. When she saw the preview for Kung fu Panda her bottom lip trembled in fear and the tears followed...she crawled into my lap, hid her face in my shoulder and stayed there for half an hour.... So I guess I won't be taking her to see Kun fu Panda...

Sounds like I was with Watership Down. Tell her don't worry, the Panda sorted out the naughty kitty cat tiger.

Anyway, who could take a Panda named Po seriously? They all have retro cultural revolution names like `Struggle for State Subsidy` and `Theory of Revolution`

Especially if they eat like Po does. Mind you, the tiger didn't take him seriously and look what happened to him.

FWIW, I thought the trailer looked lame, and was pleasantly surprised to find the movie enjoyable. My kids liked it, but they didn't LOVE it, IYKWIM.

Originally posted by Metaliant Sounds like I was with Watership Down. Tell her don't worry, the Panda sorted out the naughty kitty cat tiger.

Watership Down frightened me too as a kid! Perhaps I can take my nieces and nephews to see Kung Fu Panda. Is it strictly for kids or can adults get something out of it?

Only if they are a chop sockey fan.

Originally posted by Condorfan

Originally posted by Metaliant Sounds like I was with Watership Down. Tell her don't worry, the Panda sorted out the naughty kitty cat tiger.

Watership Down frightened me too as a kid! Perhaps I can take my nieces and nephews to see Kung Fu Panda. Is it strictly for kids or can adults get something out of it?

I wasn't quite the only adult there, as there was several kids at the back with one or two adults keeping them quiet during the film but I think it's kinda of both, the kids will love it, but adults will most certainly enjoy it. I know I did.

Originally posted by Condorfan

Originally posted by Metaliant Sounds like I was with Watership Down. Tell her don't worry, the Panda sorted out the naughty kitty cat tiger.

Watership Down frightened me too as a kid! Perhaps I can take my nieces and nephews to see Kung Fu Panda. Is it strictly for kids or can adults get something out of it?

In Watership Down, the part about the destruction of the Sandleford warren was really upsetting to me, and I'd read the book and knew it was coming (granted, reading that chapter had upset me too). As a kid, I could generally handle bad things happening to people in films, but as soon as something bad happened to an animal, I lost it -I'm still rather that way.

There are only two movies I have ever watched that I swore I would never watch again... One was Old Yeller, and the other was Waterships Down. I remember the reason why I won't ever watch Old Yeller again, but I don't vividly remember why I won't watch Watership. I know something bad happened to the rabbits, and that's the reason, but I can't remember the exact scene (and please don't write it here - if it was cause enough for me not to want to see the movie or read the book, I really don't need to know!). But I'm with you, LB... I can watch bad things happen to people in a movie, but if it's an animal - forget it.

I can't watch Old Yeller again either, or The Yearling. I always hate seeing an animal get it. I love Futurama but can't watch the episode again about Fry's dog because it made me sad for my dog who died a few years ago.

I'm with you both too Hino and LB.... people getting hurt/killed in movies aren't nearly as bad as an animal getting hurt... Glad to read that I'm not alone on that thought.

So I'm not the only one who has that reaction. Messy battle scenes in historical/fantasy movies, where people are on horses, often depress me -I figure the soldiers, to some degree, knew what they were getting themselves into, but no one asks the horses if they want to get shot up with arrows or bullets.

I'm in a bit of a philosophical mood, and since this is a Gatch board, I'm of course going to bring this thread around to our favorite subject.. So, if we take LB's statement above,

I figure the soldiers, to some degree, knew what they were getting themselves into, but no one asks the horses if they want to get shot up with arrows or bullets.

and apply it in a slightly different context, how does correlate to our favorite birdies (or does it)?? Ok, before everyone here looks at me cross-eyed, hear me out... The members of the Science Ninja Team were basically taken and put into the position of battle. Since they were trained since they were children, no one really ever asked them if combat was something they wanted to do or not. So we can rationally say that Nambu (or Anderson) knew what he was getting the future members of the team into (theoretically speaking), whereas the ninjas themselves really had no idea or choice in the matter. Using LB's idea above, doesn't that make Nambu the soldier and the team members the horses??? Discuss..... (ok, now you can at me!)

Originally posted by Hinotori I'm in a bit of a philosophical mood, and since this is a Gatch board, I'm of course going to bring this thread around to our favorite subject.. So, if we take LB's statement above,

I figure the soldiers, to some degree, knew what they were getting themselves into, but no one asks the horses if they want to get shot up with arrows or bullets.

and apply it in a slightly different context, how does correlate to our favorite birdies (or does it)?? Ok, before everyone here looks at me cross-eyed, hear me out... The members of the Science Ninja Team were basically taken and put into the position of battle. Since they were trained since they were children, no one really ever asked them if combat was something they wanted to do or not. So we can rationally say that Nambu (or Anderson) knew what he was getting the future members of the team into (theoretically speaking), whereas the ninjas themselves really had no idea or choice in the matter. Using LB's idea above, doesn't that make Nambu the soldier and the team members the horses??? Discuss..... (ok, now you can at me!)

Interesting thought Hino. I will have to think about this before I comment further. (As I would like to see what others have to say on this matter before I bring up a further extension of this.)

Ooh, this opens up all sorts of avenues of speculation. At what point did Nambu actually tell them exactly what he had in mind for them? And did he, at that time, present them with an option to opt out of the team, and go on to do something completely different? I've always sort of figured that Joe ended up with Nambu when he was eight, after his parents were killed. Ken was probably already around Nambu a lot by then, as his mother was probably sick, and then died when he was eleven. I've generally assumed that Jun and Jinpei came some time after that, followed closely by (if not preceded by) Ryu. (Is there canon for any of this?) One thing I know, personally, is that children can often be steered by their parents/guardian towards a particular path in life. Children often want to please their parents/guardian, and if something is continually presented to them as the expected/elite/heroic path, they might very well grow up wanting to do just that very thing. Also, children often don't want to be perceived as "letting down the team" where their siblings are concerned, and will stick to the designated path, in spite of misgivings, for fear of letting down the others. At whatever age he told them he wanted them to be Science Ninjas, I suspect Nambu didn't have too much trouble getting them to go along with this willingly. Now, this raises ethical issues galore! Does an adult have any business asking their children/wards (or any children), to agree to such a dangerous, life-threatening path? Can a child who is only, say 12-15, properly understand and consent to such a thing? What would Nambu have done if one of them had refused? Kick them out of the house? Say "fine" and let them do something completely different? Watching Gatch I, I noticed that in the early episodes, Ken was all about the heroism and adventure of what they were doing, but you could see him getting more disillusioned, stressed, and bitter as the episodes went on. To me, it seemed like he was realizing that the very idealized, youthful notions he had about what they were doing were clashing with the nastier and messier reality of a prolonged, near stalemate, war. What had Nambu told them to expect? Who knows? Anyway, I'm rambling here, and now I'm going to go eat some dinner!

I need to think about Hintori's question before answering but reading the previous posts just made me think of something...I like Gatchaman episode #20 now--Joe saves the puppy!

Condorfan, I'm guessing that you might have some people looking at you strange for saying you like that episode. I heard most say it's one of their least favs.. not that we are all entitled to our own. I for one do like it, just not my fav. list. Hino, you have posted a most interesting question, and with LB response it makes my mind wonder even more. The thought goes through my mind... (are the KNT the horses or the humans in my own mind)

Since I am interested in people's response to this question I thought I would take it and move it into another thread. I hope Hino does not mind .....

Responded over there as well.

Originally posted by Hinotori I'm in a bit of a philosophical mood, and since this is a Gatch board, I'm of course going to bring this thread around to our favorite subject.. So, if we take LB's statement above,

I figure the soldiers, to some degree, knew what they were getting themselves into, but no one asks the horses if they want to get shot up with arrows or bullets.

and apply it in a slightly different context, how does correlate to our favorite birdies (or does it)?? Ok, before everyone here looks at me cross-eyed, hear me out... The members of the Science Ninja Team were basically taken and put into the position of battle. Since they were trained since they were children, no one really ever asked them if combat was something they wanted to do or not. So we can rationally say that Nambu (or Anderson) knew what he was getting the future members of the team into (theoretically speaking), whereas the ninjas themselves really had no idea or choice in the matter. Using LB's idea above, doesn't that make Nambu the soldier and the team members the horses??? Discuss..... (ok, now you can at me!)

Cep, could you move this thrread from the Film Flam section to the General Discusion section please, as I think the conversation that has turned to somthing else.

Originally posted by clouddancer Since I am interested in people's response to this question I thought I would take it and move it into another thread. I hope Hino does not mind .....

You did?? Where? Oh! There it is! No, no problem at all! That Debating Room is probably a better place for it anyway.

Originally posted by Metaliant Cep, could you move this thrread from the Film Flam section to the General Discusion section please, as I think the conversation that has turned to somthing else.

Whoops, sorry... Didn't mean to thread hi-jack to the point of people realizing this wasn't the right forum for the new subject! Bad, Hino, bad!!

Originally posted by gatchgirl Condorfan, I'm guessing that you might have some people looking at you strange for saying you like that episode. I heard most say it's one of their least favs.. not that we are all entitled to our own. I for one do like it, just not my fav. list.

Yes, you're right Gatchgirl. Ep. 20 was not one of Gatchaman's better episodes. I wouldn't put it in my top ten Gatch episodes.

Originally posted by Metaliant Cep, could you move this thrread from the Film Flam section to the General Discusion section please, as I think the conversation that has turned to somthing else.

I have already done that, in a manner of speaking, Met. So now this thread can go back to its regularly scheduled conversation of Kung Fu Pandas. Or Animals in movies .... which ever topic you would like to continue with.

Originally posted by Hinotori

Originally posted by Metaliant Cep, could you move this thrread from the Film Flam section to the General Discusion section please, as I think the conversation that has turned to somthing else.

Whoops, sorry... Didn't mean to thread hi-jack to the point of people realizing this wasn't the right forum for the new subject! Bad, Hino, bad!!

Cloud gives her Eagle Friend a Don't worry Hino that is how new discussions happen. I am just hoping enough people are interested to want to discuss it and will not leave it hanging ....

Seems to have taken off over there, but I shall no longer high jack this thread...

Originally posted by Condorfan

Originally posted by gatchgirl Condorfan, I'm guessing that you might have some people looking at you strange for saying you like that episode. I heard most say it's one of their least favs.. not that we are all entitled to our own. I for one do like it, just not my fav. list.

Yes, you're right Gatchgirl. Ep. 20 was not one of Gatchaman's better episodes. I wouldn't put it in my top ten Gatch episodes.

Honestly for me, it could be in the top 20 though!