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Last post by green 5 Jan 2010 20:25
I have just read that a shuriken wasn't never really used at all by any ninja in Japan's history and was just a fictional weapon.
Actually, you're wrong, Met. If you're talking about Joe's feather shuriken, then it is an entirely fictional weapon.
But the shuriken was used as a weapon in Japan's history.
If you want to read the COMPLETE history of the shuriken, then check out this file. It's rather long at 94 pages, but it makes for very interesting reading. And it has actual photos of real shuriken.
http://pittsburghbujinkan.com/articles/History of Shuriken.pdf
Originally posted by Rory Actually, you're wrong, Met. If you're talking about Joe's feather shuriken, then it is an entirely fictional weapon. But the shuriken was used as a weapon in Japan's history. If you want to read the COMPLETE history of the shuriken, then check out this file. It's rather long at 94 pages, but it makes for very interesting reading. And it has actual photos of real shuriken. http://pittsburghbujinkan.com/articles/History of Shuriken.pdfI was reading this on wikipedia and was reading the Associated equipment section. I knew that the feather shuriken was a fictional weapon (the Galactor Goons will be frilled to hear that) but don't tell the Condor though. But I did say that it "wasn't never really used" and by that I meant that it was harldy used by the ninja, but heck what do I know. Oh and I also just found this on wikipedia as well.
Sadly, I don't really rely too much on Wikipedia when doing research. I've found some of the data there to be woefully incomplete or some are just speculation. I prefer to get my information from other, more reliable sources.
Sorry if I offended you in any way.
Can you provide some pictures of the real Shuriken?
Met I did some looking around... Its great that you took an interest to point it out to us.
Try these sites
http://www.secrets-of-shuriken.com.au/history.htm
http://books.google.com/books?id=ZzIXkFec0e8C&pg=PA156&lpg=PA156&dq=History+of+Shuriken&source=web&ots=4-RRrzxcCQ&sig=KBT1HBAhljsJsgcPPcbrz4tOopg&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PPA46,M1
Originally posted by Ebonyswanne Can you provide some pictures of the real Shuriken?The pictures are incorporated in the PDF file above. Just go to the link http://pittsburghbujinkan.com/articles/History of Shuriken.pdf
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 26 Jun 2008 16:26
I can see how they thought to attach the feather to create the Condors weapon.
Its sleek in design, and very simple.
Originally posted by Rory Sadly, I don't really rely too much on Wikipedia when doing research. I've found some of the data there to be woefully incomplete or some are just speculation. I prefer to get my information from other, more reliable sources. Sorry if I offended you in any way.I think this is the problem with Wikipedia, as some, as you said, of the information is incomplete, speculation or just incorrect. I found a bit of information on the Toxic Avenger film where someone put eye seeing dog, whcih i corrected to guide dog and no you haven't offended me but if you think you have, then mine's a pint and just put it on the tab.
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 28 Jun 2008 02:27
I don't use Wikipedia much, I just surf the net for information on a topic if I need it...some of the information people put there is interesting.
I've noted one thing on Rory's article: Ken means Blade! So Gatchaman's name would be Blade Washio? Too bad Katse wasn't a vampire!!
Actually, the kanji used for Ken's name means "health," not "blade." Same pronounciation, different meaning. Kind of like "to," "two," and "too" in the English language.
James
Tats! You're a walking Wikipedia of good information, and we love you for it.
What do you know about Shurikens???
tatsunokofan
Gatch Guru
posted 29 Jun 2008 04:09
What do you know about Shurikens???Enough to know that I don't want to be on the receiving end of one. Ouch! James
Especially one of the Swan's homemade shuriken shaped cookie, double ouch.
Here's one Just for Tats...*grins* Nothing personal...but you know the Condor can be like.
Originally posted by tatsunokofan Enough to know that I don't want to be on the receiving end of one. Ouch!
I'm with you there, James!
ooh nice pic ebony
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 30 Jun 2008 07:09
I love the pic, and the way Joe had to put his name on his shuriken. Maybe he needs something on the back.
If found, please drop in any mailbox. Postage return to ISO Headquarters is prepaid from any country.
Originally posted by Transmute Jun I love the pic, and the way Joe had to put his name on his shuriken. Maybe he needs something on the back. If found, please drop in any mailbox. Postage return to ISO Headquarters is prepaid from any country.I agree TJ, maybe you could add: Please wash off the blood before mailing
ROTFL.
Can you imagine him opening the package in front of the team...
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 Jul 2008 15:32
Nice pic of the Shuriken Ebony.
You are doing so well on the fine details. Lovely.
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 Jul 2008 15:35
CD...
clouddancer
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 Jul 2008 16:46
Originally posted by EbonyswanneWell you deserve it Ebony.
Xephon0930
Member
posted 25 Apr 2009 09:06
Has anyone tried making a feathered shuriken that actually works?
The key to making a working shuriken out of an actual feather is to start with a flight feather--wing or tail--where both sides of the vane are perfectly symmetric, and the shaft doesn't curve. There really aren't very many feathers on a bird that meet those criteria. If you've got a feather and you're not sure about it, try throwing it. If it curves off to one side, the vane is unbalanced. I haven't experimented with trimming the vanes.
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 29 Apr 2009 12:52
Take Barrdwing's word for it. She's an expert on feathers!
And may I be the first to 
to Barrdwing for creating actual feather shuriken?
to Barrdwing for creating actual feather shuriken?
Ducks under feathered shurkien holded sofa. 
I dont suppose you have a pic Barrdwing?
Baardwing, that's really impressive! I'd love to see them, if you have pics!
These are the ones I made. These are goose wing feathers ( that we make the arrows from). I found them to be incredibly light. As bardwing says, they don't have the mass to penetrate, be accurate or to go very far. They would have to be significantly weightier to do all that which would compromise how many you can carry and where you keep them !
Oh, that's right, Veritas! I forgot that you made some shuriken, too! Those are gorgeous!
Transmute Jun
Queen of the Bird Missiles
posted 30 Apr 2009 05:56
The funny thing is, when CD and I were in San Diego for Comic Con last year we went to the Wild Animal Park. There we saw a real California condor, and they had a sample of its feath. The real condor's feather was longer than my arm!!! Can you imagine Joe carrying arou nd feathers that are long enough to be spears?
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 30 Apr 2009 06:06
Originally posted by veritasI would sat the ones the team has would have metal shafts in the middle to give it weight.
Those look very good Veritas.
Ebony I think Veritas' do have metal shafts at the end anyways. Seeing these I could actually imagine inserting a metal rod up the shaft partly to straighten it and partly to give the shuriken some weight - instead of just on the end, like it looks like Veritas' are.
Veritas they look good.
CD I think you're right it would certainly give it the added weight needed, wonder if it would work?
Originally posted by Springie Baardwing, that's really impressive! I'd love to see them, if you have pics!Oh boy . . . now where did I put them when we moved?
If I can find them, I'll get some photos . . . assuming the bugs didn't find them first. I always worry about that with the feathers . . . .
Veritas, those are some keen-looking shuriken! 
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 2 May 2009 02:49
LOL Barrwing, Joe was one of the moving guys, (racing doesn't pay as much as it used to) when saw them in a box he just figured they were his... I think you'll have to take it up with the Condor to get em back....
I am sure there are a few people who woul like to negotiate with the condor 
Originally posted by Ebonyswanne LOL Barrwing, Joe was one of the moving guys, (racing doesn't pay as much as it used to) when saw them in a box he just figured they were his... I think you'll have to take it up with the Condor to get em back....I can see it now.... "UMM Joe, Those feathers belong to me" Joe looks down at the feather he had hanging from his teeth. Noticing they made his own shurikens looks out of date he tried his best to keep them.
"Barrwing...darling" The Condor's half smile with the feathers still hanging out of his mouth turns cheeky. "Wanna fight me for em...I promise it'll be worth your while...."
question is would barrdwing want to take up that challenge?
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 May 2009 16:59
What kinda challenge would the Condor offer do you think for her get her shuriken back?
I was just wondering if Barrdwing will take up the fight me for them challenge even if he would make it "worth her while"
Or as Barrdwing is a Zark whether that might be too risky and a counter offer made?
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 11 May 2009 18:01
Barrwing might just let him keep em...
Barrwing...where are you??????
Would I take him up on that challenge? Hmm . . . knowing I'd get my butt kicked, perhaps not. But I could always tell him exactly where I got those feathers. "Ah, Joe, maybe you should know . . . that duck came from Putah Creek . . . and all those rumors about why you don't swim in Putah Creek--you know, the incurable yeast infection thing?--and how the Chancellors tried for years to dye the water a better color . . . yeah, they're true." And then I'd hand him a big bottle of Listerine. 
(Putah Creek ran through campus. There were some very, very disturbing things said about that creek. All I can say for sure is, it supported life all right, but it didn't do to look too closely at that life, or count the legs.)
lol I think you would have to run after telling the condor that!
Originally posted by Barrdwing "Ah, Joe, maybe you should know . . . that duck came from Putah Creek . . . and all those rumors about why you don't swim in Putah Creek--you know, the incurable yeast infection thing?--and how the Chancellors tried for years to dye the water a better color . . . yeah, they're true." And then I'd hand him a big bottle of Listerine.Would Joe NEED to worry about a yeast infection? Is that something guys have to worry about?
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 18 May 2009 20:45
Condor Joe smiles cunningly at Barrwing..."Do ya really think that scares me after jumping out of a mecha 10,000 feet in the air and almost landing on a car?"
Originally posted by Barrdwing Like a bunny rabbit!I would have said a cheetah knowing how fast the Condor can move
Originally posted by Ebonyswanne Condor Joe smiles cunningly at Barrwing..."Do ya really think that scares me after jumping out of a mecha 10,000 feet in the air and almost landing on a car?"Wull, see, I dunno if a guy can become a carrier of a yeast infection, but considering what that would do to his popularity with the ladies . . . . Yeah, I'd be so dead.
Originally posted by FirebirdYes, but a bunny can dodge better! When being chased by someone armed with large numbers of projectile weapons, dodging is very important.Originally posted by Barrdwing Like a bunny rabbit!I would have said a cheetah knowing how fast the Condor can move
Ebonyswanne
Gatchamaniac
posted 21 May 2009 04:48
The Condor reaches over to take back his precious shuriken from Barrwing...when out of the blue...
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