Came home with it in my sweaty paws. You know what the first thing I looked at was? Yes, you lot guessed it, it was the 2004 promo. I was sadly dissapointed, ok the designs were good and the animation superlative..... But we have seen it all before. Guess what?

Having said all that.... The Movie is NOT the Gatchaman movie..... It is a BOTP version, `PG` rated complete with Cuban brothers remix theme. (and enough fistfights and explosions to keep the hardest Condor happy) Zark has a new VA, he now sounds like a male Susan (snerks) he is less waffly and more bearable. I wont say anything more the version of `rescue of the astronauts` is a little different from the original with a few more rough bits left in.... the Special features just a one ep slice off the end of the movie..... there is also scrips, cast bios and pic but not seen them yet. But Im sure you will enjoy the movie, its very well produced.

Is this the same box set as discussed in the other threads or another one?

This is that boxset, the R2 one.

I have to wait a few days for mine, it's been posted today but no doubt the postman won't make it available to me until the weekend. And I'm away this weekend with no PC or DVD player. Ho hum.

Be patient, the movie rocks

Like Meridian mine is in the post so looking forward to getting it Thanks for the info though Tengu

and its `actually` easy to get the DVds out of the for once sensibly designed box. The intro menu needs patience though. a nice design but you have to wait.

Um....which box set is this? The only thing I got on mine was interviews with the cast, some stupid photos of memorabilia, cast bios, an old trailer and one of those commentary things (which was a freaking HOOT BTW. Ronnie and Alan are a piss!) - In all....DISAPPOINTING STUFF, RHINO! This is one of those Brit things, eh? You guys get all the good stuff.... that's not fair...

This is the BRITISH version.....

SJ If you have a region free DVD and in some cases a Television that supports PAL you can get a copy.

You won't need a PAL TV just a multi region DVD player, they all come with International colour ranges.

Watched the movie again. It is 70 minutes long. Two negative points... A sad lack of Mr Curtin It ends on a negative note. if you have enough money and already a DVD player that will play it, then go ahead. if not, I suggest you wait. There is good stuff but nothing earth shattering.

*sighhhh* No such luck in the region-free DVD player. Flash bought our player back when the damn things cost near on $800 each....so, yeah.... It's only good for N. American DVDs. If I am stupid enough to suggest that we get a new one, I will be dragged to each and every Futureshop store in the GTA for the next millenia while he finds the one that will do this...and magically self-digitalize that, and support this and make our dinner for us too. I dunno if a 70 minute movie is really worth all that hell... I made that mental note to myself about three years ago that I will NEVER suggest buying anything remotely electrical...Unless.... *grins* The Anniversary is coming up - Perhaps I will just sneakily go and buy him one, claim it is my Anniversary gift to him. Ends on a negative note?! Howso, Tengu? One interesting little point, is the difference in opinion on Kasem and Waldo regarding Prinny and Mark. Kasem says that Prinny had it for Mark, but he never acted on it (oh but he was a little disappointed in that - he says if they were to do it now, there would definitely be some play on that) Waldo claims that they (P and M) had a connection, and it was implied that they were in a relationship. She, again, was disappointed there wasn't more with the swannie and Eagle. My personal take on the VA's...Well. Kasem - a real groovy kat...I like him, he's humble. Waldo - Pretty self-congratulatory if you ask me. She seems a little on the wierd side. Really excitable. Ronnie - What a riot! I liked him and his attitude. Humble and honest, with a wicked little sense of humour. Young - Had me in tears during the commentary. Claims that he's going to start writing fan-mail to the show....and himself. Still does an swesome Keyop, and appears as irritated by Zark as the rest of us (even though he voiced him). At one point he had me chuckling when he said "He just keeps talking, doesn't he?" (regarding Zark) "I didn't realize I was talking through the whole show." For Young, it was the first time he'd even seen an eppie of BotP... Ronnie had seen it only the night before. Both said they were going to become big fans of the show (Young says as soon as he can figure out how to work his DVD player he'll watch enough to be a fan). Waldo...well...she's seen all of the Rhino releases and is more a fan of the animation than the voicing. She wouldn't stop raving about it the whole eppie through. Note: she dislikes Simpsons animation incredibly. So...enough dribble from me....That was my personal take on the VA's...and the only real good thing about the special features on the set. Thank Buddha that they added the Gatch eppies, or I'd be doing my one-woman riot on the Rhino offices! SJ

Why dont you trade in Flash for a DVD player? Sounds like hes no good to you.

*raises brow and hides all weapons, chanting a soothing mantra to herself* Actually Flash is perfect to and for me. I wouldn't have moved across the world and married him if he wasn't. Besides.....DVD players are too cold to snuggle up to and play naked twister with... *shrugs and goes in search of her glow in the dark naughty dice and chocolate body paint*

Ooo? You moved to a different country...how sweet!

Yup from Sunny Australia to the Perpetual Winterland, Canada. Cos he is just soooooo special...

First I would like to say, you Brits are lucky, you do get all the good stuff. Second is stupid question time, how do you know if your DVD is region free? Unlike you SJ I waited till the prices came down So I am hoping for a small light at the end of the tunnel here. (Of course there is always the one I bought for the art dept. to consider, Hmmmm....)

And we count her as a blessing every night when we say our prayers.

Stardust the box they come in will usually tell you. My advice is buy an unbranded DVD system as most of the brand systems have chips in them to prevent you watching DVD copies and DVDs bought in other countries of the same region (its a con basically). The whole region thing came about because the brand makes wanted to charge extortionate prices in certain areas for the same products in others however with the release of multi-region by many unbranded firms they have had to face the music and make their own.

oh goody it was a christmas gift. That box is gone. sigh

If you have the instructions that should tell you also. Alternatively try item searching on the net if you get you brand and model you will find the info there also. I got my box set delivered all I am trying to do now is to find the time to watch it.

Movie, `first` dont forget!

I will but higher priority is sleep as I just got back from work

No sense of adventure, eh?

nope after not managing any sleep yesterday I had been awake over 48 hours. Red bull and thyroxine are a bad combination. Thankfully the effects wore off and I managed a whole 3 hours lol

*snicker* Woo Firebird! Trying to pretend you're in college and pulling all-nighters? Man, that's the part I *don't* like. A better way would be to party/go to a rave/play video games non-stop, trust me. Now go sleep!

was not intentional Elvin I worked a 12 hour shift tehn got persuaded to go 'just for one drink' at a leaving do. The drink was mixed with red bull which I never drink the end result was I could not sleep. I then had to go back for another 12 hour shift. I was hyper the whole night and definitely not safe to be around lol and can not go back to sleep because you guessed it work again.

All nighters. Only times I pulled those, ended up with a kid beside me the next morning. Definitely worth it.

Tengu, just got to watch the movie (not much else as about to go to work) It was *searches for the right words* I will have to get back to you

Whoops. I bet you were wired. Maybe you can sleep some tonight, eh? Or tomorrow...or NEVER!! BUWAHAHA...er, sorry about that, got a little out of control there. Only time I pull all nighters is to write papers, because that's normally the only time inspiration strikes. My brain is trying to kill me, I guess, but I'll take the A's and B's the papers get me. Just wish they'd be in the same time zone as me.

Well, I have mine now. Haven't got to the movie yet but I've just had a look at the mini feature - I don't know what this is but suspect it might be what they used to originally sell the show to networks back in 79 or whenever. So, Mark's confident and fearless, Jason's quick tempered and impulsive, Tiny is master of command ship controls, Keyop speaks in chirps and bloops (or maybe it's gloops, hard to make out the word), and Princess is cold and scientific yet warm and beautiful. Poor Keyop! That's all they could think of to say about him? Mind you, Princess did well, she's got a bigger description than anyone else.

Reading Jason's note over in the BOTP ML. Most of the stuff was experiments, not what they actually intend to do. Trying to mix BOTP personalities and Gatch footage to see if it works. And the NTT commercials, despite what the DVD says, are not examples of the future. Sounds to me like they needed extras, so they raided the stuff that should have been kept in the room with the test audiences, or sold to the trivia collectors, rather than put out for public view. Now, you take the Thunderbirds release: twelve DVDs, each with three episodes and an hour documentary -- on the equipment, the marionettes, the science, the special effects, the history, the creator, and not sure what else. Lots of old behind the scenes footage. Interviews with the creators. Not sure if there are new interviews -- haven't seen all the goodies. All the footage cleaned up -- you can see the wires, which may or may not be a good thing, but, to me, it emphasizes that these are puppets, and that the puppeteers are incredibly good. Not a word about the new movie or new owners. No false starts to get our hopes up or dash them. Nothing that should have been left on the cutting room floor being billed as "new". Just a very nice set for someone who remembers them from their youth and wants to share them with their kids and get a bit more information. Cricket

Dang it Meridian! go watch the Movie!! (But she may be doing that as I write...) and Firebirds evidently in denial.....

Well, my evening didn't go as I hoped and so I haven't even managed to watch half the movie But isn't it odd where they've put the violence back in and little bits of the Gatchaman voices have got in there? Joe's grunts are noticeably not a sound one would expect from Jason, they're about 2 octaves out of his range for starters. Anyway, no doubt I shall get to see the rest of it next week.

I did watch the whole movie and will admit to the following. On hearing zarks new voice at first I giggled as I thought someone had shut him in an empty container. Then there was the music definitely not what I am used to. I did like the way it was filled out and not censored so much. The fight sequences were certainly more realistic for BOTP than before. Not to sure I liked the description of Jason and had to admit the description of Keyop had me giggling again. Once I got over my giggle fit and settled down I actually did enjoy the movie. I am looking forward to seeing the rest. Maybe in a week or so when I catch up on sleep I will watch it again and see if I react differently when wide awake and refreshed and watching it

Ive sent my Review over to Wendy so we will see what she says Im also putting it in ARTICLES.

Finally got to see the movie. I think they've made quite a good job of that. The merging of episodes 5 & 6 went pretty well, and the "destruction of space center" episodes make a bit more sense - or perhaps I was distracted from the obvious plot holes by the insertion of mindless violence Can't say I object to the new Zark either - I see he still needs overhauling and is eager to party, but not so creepy over Princess.

Yes, she gave up on him...after the third time Jason caught VD off of the teledildonics suit.... 0430...dont expect me to be lucid...or clean.)

someone else to count as a blessing is a gorgeous Sprite in the UK who made it possible for me to purchase this box set...Worth every damn penny! Nostalgia wise...it was everything I could have hoped for an dmore, considering I used to watch BOTP on a black and white Tv upstairs in my parents room, straight after school , instead of doing my homework. Just like a flavour, or scent, can trigger a memory for you, such was the case in watching BOTP...Sandy Franks battle of the Planets Opening score and all! Ahhh....... Thats from a nostagic point of view... Satisfaction wise?...well like I was once told... so so SOOOOO true!...Im amazed and how many scenes WERE actually cut and had Zark fill in!! Regardless of Casey Casem's herioc swoonworthy rendition of Mark, of the clean battles where no one died and cities were evacuated, there is still enough emotional and nostalgic ties to make BOTP bearable.. A great buy..and Im eternally grateful to be one of a very few Aussies to have gotten my hands on this UK box set.. Thankyou thankyou thankyou heavenly Sprite!! However, the day Original Gatchaman is properly subtitlted in English is the day I POUNCE on the damn thing...even if I have to sell the Griz on ebay for it!

Most welcome Imi. I too am looking forward to getting some original Gatch at some point

..well like I was once told...

Dont you believe it, dude! Dow much do you want for Griz? Doe he weld cars? Do gardens??

Ill Trade Griz for Gatchaman series one.... You can teach him how to weld cars and do gardens...!

So, I wonder when ADV will start bringing out subtitled Gatch? And how long it'll take them to complete it? And how much it'll cost us?

and whether or not it will compete with BOTP

In our memories? Nothing can, or should, compete. And for my kids, BOTP is just as much fun as it was for me. Son even tries to play it with his sister, who has dutifully mastered running around / flying around shooting things. In our current hearts? As something we can take forward with us? That's the question.

Hmmmm, my daughter is resisting at the moment. Her self censor is objecting to BOTP for some reason when it's perfectly happy to watch the Powerpuff Girls. Possibly because she's see the Powerpuff Girls so many times that she knows all the storylines, whereas BOTP surprises her. She seems to be at an age where she worries about everything.... As opposed to me, who is just worrying over how plans for summer childcare seem to have collapsed rather badly. Plans to make... people to phone...

Eeps. Childcare. I found BOTP allowed me to pack my self-censor away while watching it -- one of the reasons I loved it as a kid. Still had danger and a hint of angst and the romantic tension, but for some reason I couldn't get into shows where people, even baddies, actually died. So, it fit the bill nicely.

She sees the peril, I think, and even though in BOTP you know everything is going to turn out alright for most of the good people, the characters demonstrate that peril by looking rather concerned. Or, if they're the general population, by running about screaming. Powerpuff Girls is rather more comedic and those reactions don't exist, or on the rare occasions where they do they pass more quickly, or are done in a comedic way. I'm pretty sure that's what's worrying her, she doesn't trust the series not to upset her, she's just going by the worried looks and taking that as a warning that she's going to be scared. My theory anyhow. (Childcare was a lot easier when she was in daycare, that only shut for a week over Christmas. Now she's on holiday for 13 weeks each year and the woman who was going to be looking after her for most of the summer holidays has got a full time job instead. I've no hope of booking any more time over the holidays, so I'm going to have to call in and beg some favours. And get myself a proper child minder so this doesn't happen every other school holiday.)

Is she old enough to join in some of the summer camps/projects that get run. In London the Police run summer camps for about 4 weeks of the holidays its not an entire help but it does help a little. Maybe if you contact you local council of police they can tell you what is running?

She's only 5, which makes me a bit leery of most camp ideas, just as it made me avoid booking her into the school's holiday club - the rest of the children are an awful lot bigger than she is. The gym I go to has a kids camp, and is literally 5 minutes from where I work, and she knows a couple of the people there, and I think I might book her into there for a few days if it looks as though she might get something out of their range of activities. I don't want to hand her over to a group where she won't know anyone though. I have plans, favours to call in, other favours to beg and so on. I'm sure I'll get the days covered. And I shall be looking into changing my childcare arrangements to find someone else a little more reliable.

The city has camps too, and some clubs do. My son loves the gymnastics camp.

She sees the peril, I think, and even though in BOTP you know everything is going to turn out alright for most of the good people, the characters demonstrate that peril by looking rather concerned. Or, if they're the general population, by running about screaming. Powerpuff Girls is rather more comedic and those reactions don't exist, or on the rare occasions where they do they pass more quickly, or are done in a comedic way. I'm pretty sure that's what's worrying her, she doesn't trust the series not to upset her, she's just going by the worried looks and taking that as a warning that she's going to be scared.

Yes, in spite of all the censorship and reassuranses, the danger is `very real`..... In fact to the extent of making the reassurances unpleasantly contradictory. (as in the `Fierce Flowers`)

So, I wasn't entirely aware of all the subtleties at age 12. It worked for me then, in a way it wouldn't work for me now. So, I cherish the memory and share the shows with my kids.

And I still refuse to watch `race against disaster` for that very reason...