Please help, I am trying to come up with a list of personality traits for the members of the team. I have started but would like your input especially on the Owl and Swallow. It is funny I can not think of much for them or find much on them. G1 - Mark/Ken leader/Commander logical / analytic mind quiet thoughtful observer G2 - Jason/Joe aggressive impulsive fiery drive hot tempered G3 - Princess/Jun compassionate mothering forgiving sympathetic G4 - Keyop/Jinpei playfull innocent willing to show emotions G5 - Tiny/Ryu open easy going good natured gentle willing to follow than lead Any help or corrections would be appreciated.

(Pasted from Clubhouse) BotP team is very different in personality traits & dynamics to the KNT - espeicially their respective Eagles. In many ways, Ken is very much like Jason, rather than Mark (at least IMHO) So - I'd do 2 lists. Just off the top of my head: Mark - Leadership - Tactics - Observant - Worrier - Authoratitive - Attention to detail - Analytical - Patient - Intelligent - team player Jason (very much my opinion - what Zark says about Jason is in direct odds to the character we see portrayed) - Observant (even more than Mark) - Intelligent - Considerate - Team Player - driven - agressive - impatient - firey - sarcastic - questions Princess - intelligent - sympathethc / empathic - compassionate - mothering - conciliatory - diplomatic - patient - mischevous - negotiator - team player Keyop - impatient - impulsive - playful - sympathetic - intelligent - thinks outside the box - team player Tiny - observer - follower - patient - thoughtful - negotiator - team player Ken - impatient - impulsive - angsty (we joke that Mark is Angst-boy, but beside Ken, he's positively well -adjusted!) - selfish - analytical - observant - tactics - always wants to be in charge - intelligent Joe - agressive - impatient - questions - firey drive - vengeful - hot tempered - obervant - single minded - intelligent - rebellious Jun - compassionate - intelligent - quiet - observant - mothering - forgiving - sympathetic - follower Jinpei - playful - emotional - caring - sympathetic - intelligent Ryu - patient - follower - solid - intelligent To me, though, the interesting thing is that both Condors provide their Eagle with a different viewpoint that he often needs to see a bigger picture. The big difference is that Mark usually listens to Jason, whilst the Ken/Joe relationship is very much "kill or cure" G-Force is much more a full team than the KNT is and I've always said that Mark is a much better leader than Ken. Hope my 10cents helps!

I to Maddy and her through analysis! You put into words everything I was thinking!

I would have said that Ryu was also a peace maker. In the flowers ep he tried to keep the team together at Snack J after Jun went missing, he offered sound advice when all the others were not thinking straight.(a phlegmatic personality.) Ken is hot tempered too when personal issues come into his work followed then by angsty...IE his father when he died. I feel this is why he can clash so well with Joe when the suppressed temper of Ken comes out.(Melancholy/Choleric ) Jun is able to take control when she has too, and has the ability to hold them together as a team but rarely steps in..a follower but good at knowing what needs to be done.(Not everyone can be the leader!) She also has Melancholy traits. The Condor is 100% Choleric in his personality. Jinpei is a sanguine 100% But again this is only my opinion, and I don't know BOTP well enough to offer one on them. But the analysis was very good!!! I copied it for a reference! The book I used to get an idea of personality traits and I use in my character development. Personality Plus by Florence Littauer.

I can see Mark's personality differs a little from Ken's. Were they a little tamed in the BotP?

Originally posted by amyltrer I can see Mark's personality differs a little from Ken's. Were they a little tamed in the BotP?

Read this Amy, this is funny as heck, especailly near the end, BOTP. Go to the bottom of the page and click onto the Battle Of The Planets page.

Meta this is why I love Gatch so much more...I have read this over and over....

Saw it too, Ebony! Vacuforum is one of the most complete sites about Gatchaman. Home of white Shadow will always be the best info source, though!

They are all great pages, and it's amazing how every time you visit them you find something that never caught your eye before.

Originally posted by Ebonyswanne Meta this is why I love Gatch so much more...I have read this over and over....

Me too and it never tires reading it again and again and again and.......

Originally posted by amyltrer Saw it too, Ebony! Vacuforum is one of the most complete sites about Gatchaman. Home of white Shadow will always be the best info source, though!

White Shadow gets updated unlike the Vacuforum one though I think it may be updated soon.

Don't forget Wendy's new Gatchablog... http://gatchablog.blogspot.com/

Originally posted by Metaliant

Originally posted by amyltrer Saw it too, Ebony! Vacuforum is one of the most complete sites about Gatchaman. Home of white Shadow will always be the best info source, though!

I think it may be updated soon.

And I hope those will be the Gatch F episode synopsises!

Originally posted by amyltrer And I hope those will be the Gatch F episode synopsises!

Me too! There really aren't any good Gatch F episode summaries like there are for Gatch and Gatch II.

Well, I'm gratefull even for them. There's so little information about Fighter on the net.

Veronika's site is also good. http://www.gatchaman.com/

Thank you for all your help. And I have some new links, I had never seen before. You guys are so helpful. I plan on giving this list too my Beta reader. That is why I was trying to prepare it.

Jason has an elemant of compassion about him also I think not as strong as Princes but it is there (thinking here of the Ep with the puppy)

When I watched a Gatch ep and thena BOTP straight after the team in BOTP were such goodie goodies! Mark was so noble...too goodie... I mean in one EP (I can't remember which one at the moment.) Mark and Princess according to Zark had a fight...it was soooo lame! like was that a fight???? HUH No wonder TJ makes her fun fics BOTP! I know I read that some people say that in Gatchaman they have conflict in the team, (dah!) but to me that is more real. Go work everyday and look at your team ( a lot of people work in teams...I do)...or at times in the military...that have internal clashes at times. Personalities can clash but still pull together... I know I'm bias...but I just love how in Gatch the world is not perfect...And even Ken is a human leader, not some ideal...

Originally posted by Ebonyswanne No wonder TJ makes her fun fics BOTP!

Well... to be fair, there were lots of funny moments in Gatch (the Trachodon ep is my favourite and that wasn't even made into BOTP) and I HAVE written a couple of funny Gatch ones... the Christmas fic I did with Springie and the Austin Powers crossover fic come to mind... And sometimes I'll do completely silly Gatch scenes in a more serious fic... like the farmhouse scene in Burdens.

Thats because you are so good TJ

Originally posted by Firebird Thats because you are so good TJ

You have it backwards! The silly stuff is EASY to write! It's the swoon, the smut and the angst that are hard.

heh I just wait til I have a bad day and all the angst flows (especially when in my job they are often) lol

Originally posted by Firebird heh I just wait til I have a bad day and all the angst flows (especially when in my job they are often) lol

Let it flow! Amen, sistah! More fics from FB!!!!!

only if I stop getting distracted by the boards

Originally posted by Firebird only if I stop getting distracted by the boards

Me too! Every time I turn around this morning there are more posts from YOU, FB!

Know the feeling I feel like I am chasing you around the board!

Originally posted by Firebird Know the feeling I feel like I am chasing you around the board!

Except I gave up the chase... I had to run some errands, and I watched some ER so now I have to summarize and screenshot....

lol thats ok TJ I had to eat and get sleep for work today.

Originally posted by Firebird lol thats ok TJ I had to eat and get sleep for work today.

Yes, isn't it annoying how eating and sleeping interfere with our time on the boards??????

Very much so.. I need to sleep a lot at the moment too as I am still recovering from illness Wish these things would not get in the way of my fic writing and posting

FB sounds like you need some too.

nah im okay just taking things slowly

Glad you are better, FB!

Originally posted by clouddancer FB sounds like you need some too.

ITA! and and and to you too, FB!

You know I just started chapter 3 of my fic you dont want to distract me too much from writing more do you?

Originally posted by Firebird You know I just started chapter 3 of my fic you dont want to distract me too much from writing more do you?

Are you saying that you want me to stop posting? I've only gotten 3 pages of mine written this morning...

nope am enjoying posting lol besides the fic will get done eventually

Me too... I still haven't written any more fic but I did get 3 more ER episodes documented and screenshotted.

You document the epsiodes TJ? Did not know that. I knew you kept screenshots just not that you went into that much detail.

Well I started out just watching them, and then I started screnshotting them for Springie who didn't have the set. Then I realized that there are no sites out there that really say much about ER, and although it's not the greatest show, it's still the closest many of us will ever come to Gatch II/F (which is why I'm enjoying it so much). So I should write episode summaries. At that point I had watched 12 eps, so I went back to the beginning and wrote episode summaries for each one. Now I have summaries and screenshots for each ep that I've watched so far. I'm hoping to be able to put them up on the new Jun's Joint site when it's all done.

Juns Joint site? Not sure I have seen that one.. Care to share the link?

It's Springie's site. The link WILL be www.junsjoint.com, but it's not currently working, as it is under construction. It will be a place for her fabulous screenshots and animations and fics! Trust me, there will be much fanfare when the new Jun's Joint opens up!

Originally posted by Transmute Jun It's Springie's site. The link WILL be www.junsjoint.com, but it's not currently working, as it is under construction. It will be a place for her fabulous screenshots and animations and fics! Trust me, there will be much fanfare when the new Jun's Joint opens up!

Ummm... this is TJ's site, too...we are co-owners now....and it will also feature her illustrious works and screenshots and summaries from Eagle Riders (which was taken from Gatch 2 and F)...I can't wait to see the finished product!!

...but she already told you that, didn't she? Maybe I should read everything before I post next time...LOL

Originally posted by Springie ...but she already told you that, didn't she? Maybe I should read everything before I post next time...LOL

That's okay, Springie, we forgive you...

well I book marked it and can keep an eye on what goes on there!

We'll be sure to make updates...