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I'm not sure why you can't see them, Marie! Frown

I'm at work right now with limited comoputer access, but I'll try to post direct links for you when I get home.

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There are a few reasons for Native Americans to be annoyed by this episode. I think you can spot most of them. (And since Native Americans are still misrepresented in media of all sorts, they're entitled to it. It's not any one depiction, but the cumulative effect of incorrect, anachronistic and silly portrayals that causes the trouble.)


Yeah, I remember back when Disney's "Pocahontas" came out, there was a lot of talk about how they were trying to "get it right" and make up for things like their depiction of Native Americans in "Peter Pan." Clearly Disney aren't the only ones guilty of this...



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As for BotP: no reason for that nonsense with Venus. In 1978, word was out that Venus was not habitable by humans. They could have made it another planet, and invented a McGuffin to draw the team there.


I agree, they could so easily have just made up a planet here, like they did in so many other episodes. I think, even at age 8, that I was aware Venus looked nothing like what was shown in this episode -though I don't specifically remember seeing this episode.

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Great job LB!

TJ, loved your comic.

As for the Native Americans, I don't think the big push against the stereotypes really happened until the 1980's, so it's not surprising that the Japanese didn't get it right in the early 1970's. We weren't getting it right then, either.

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For me, the one thing that saves it is the Lava Jesus and the Mecha-Buttha.

Japan might not have been exposed to as many stereotypes as the US (for obvious reasons), but that would have made the few images even more powerful.

Buffalo are most important to the Plains ethnic groups, not so much to others. A 'Death Buffalo' definitely wasn't part of the belief system of any of them. But, given Galactor's record, it's no surprise they'd build a giant minotaur mecha.

Maybe if they hadn't added the totem-pole part....

Native Americans disliked Pocahontas because it still got things wrong. She was maybe 11 when she met John Smith (who was short and ugly), and her outfit was definitely incorrect. Her real name was Mataoka.

(To dip your toe into the world of Native Americans fighting stereotypes, www.bluecorncomics.com is a start.)

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Marie, here are the direct links to the pics I posted:

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And, great thinking about the foreshadowing of Joe being singled out by Katse ... it also transpired from the way Joe had spoken, verbally revealing the anger which could also be seen in his eyes.


That, and the way that Joe wanted to go after Katse later even though the mecha they were all on was about to explode, does make me think the writers already had an idea of the final episodes' storyline. Plus the emphasis on wanting to find Galactor's main headquarters...

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She was maybe 11 when she met John Smith (who was short and ugly), and her outfit was definitely incorrect. Her real name was Mataoka.


Screenwriters have a long tradition of playing fast and loose with historical facts when it suits their dramatic purposes, don't they? I can think of lots of movies that had me going "Hey, wait a minute -that's not right..."

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Thanks a lot for the links, TJ!Huggles

It's only now that I had the chance of logging in and, today, even the original ones you've sent yesterday are now appearing! Sorry for the trouble! I don't know what's causing this because, even some two days ago, the same has happened when I entered the site! I'll leave this problem for my DH to tackle ... he's better than me in this field! Most probably it might be something linked with the poor connection we're having lately, or with the fact that our computer is acting mad these days and is crashing frequently, perhaps because of its overload!

I can now really see how much the blond man resembles Ken! And, I'm ROFL 2 with the suitable captioning you've added to that screenshot! The shot really screamed out for such! thumbsup2

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She was maybe 11 when she met John Smith (who was short and ugly), and her outfit was definitely incorrect. Her real name was Mataoka.


Screenwriters have a long tradition of playing fast and loose with historical facts when it suits their dramatic purposes, don't they? I can think of lots of movies that had me going "Hey, wait a minute -that's not right..."


And all because there are tropes the audience expects. I usually find that the real story is much more interesting than the trope-heavy version we learned in school (and which is too often reinforced even in educational shows and films -- Doctor Who was one of the few shows that managed to avoid that sort of nonsense).

Cracked dot com has a few articles about movies that diverge from historical and contemporary reality. TV Tropes dot org has some entries on similar themes.

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Great job LB!

TJ, loved your comic.

As for the Native Americans, I don't think the big push against the stereotypes really happened until the 1980's, so it's not surprising that the Japanese didn't get it right in the early 1970's. We weren't getting it right then, either.



Now that I think about it, didn't the US military recruit Navajos (indigenous to the American southwest) during WWII to transmit all the coded messages, via radio, in the Pacific theatre of the war, using codes based on the Navajo language -codes that the Japanese military was never able to crack?

Very far-fetched, to be sure, but almost makes me wonder if some Japanese held a grudge.

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We are talking about people who started to market things in the US under different names to either not associate them with Japan or Japanese companies at the end of world war two. Remember Datsun changing their name to Nissan?

However in this case I don't think it was intentionally disrespectful. As UW pointed out earlier in the thread, other cultural symbols from both western and eastern cultures were used or abused to form Galactor mecha. Probably as a way to show that no culture was safe from Galactor.

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What happens on the picture? biggrin2

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However in this case I don't think it was intentionally disrespectful. As UW pointed out earlier in the thread, other cultural symbols from both western and eastern cultures were used or abused to form Galactor mecha. Probably as a way to show that no culture was safe from Galactor.


Oh, I'm sure you're right, but still, not every COTW gets belted in the head and later, punched out, by Katse. This guy had it rough.

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Rofl You're making me crack with laughter with all these brilliant comics! Great job, LB!

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LB, that's perfect! And here I was thinking that Ryu had gotten carsick and they'd just found the mess.... but yours is better! thumbsup2

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And here I was thinking that Ryu had gotten carsick and they'd just found the mess....


You should do that one! Laugh1 Puke2

My only other idea was something about arguing over which radio station to listen to.

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Getting closer to the end, great recap! Those captions capture their expressions really well too : )

 

Just before we see Katse's escape rocket appear the horn of the mecha crumbles and falls apart. He must have intentionally made that part of the mecha fragile to allow himself an escape route. I wonder if that's why the other horn fell off when it got hit by lightning, maybe it held another escape rocket? Doesn't seem smart to deliberately build in weak-points, maybe that's one of the reasons he keeps failing : )

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You have good insights into Katse's mind -a very strong sense of self-preservation (I could believe he'd have more than one escape rocket) and also occasional lapses in strategic thinking (putting said rocket(s) in vulnerable locations)!

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